Missing friend in Mammoth Lakes area


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Boulder climber
Sep 8, 2013 - 01:26am PT
Yes, Sunday before he disappeared he talked to my son Arnold and showed him in the book where he planned on going.

Social climber
Lehigh Valley, PA
Sep 8, 2013 - 02:51am PT
That whole Facebook thread Supermama posted better have been read by police before now. They were alerted about it back on August 27th or thereabouts? I have asked multiple times if anything has come of interviews with these witnesses and haven't heard a thing.

Ron/Tiffany, if you are reading this, have you heard whether they were able to be interviewed yet, and if so whether they could provide any clues to guide the investigation?

Social climber
Northampton, PA
Sep 8, 2013 - 07:48am PT
I saw those postings by Arnold and Connie and tried reaching out to them but they haven't replied to anything; possibly because my msgs went to their 'other' folder (a FB thing for msgs from those not on friends list). Also tried reaching out in the thread itself. I have no other contact info so I forwarded the info to Dan Watson who in turn said he'd forward it to the detective. Nothing back yet.

I agree that these two could be crucial to the investigation and their info should be easily attainable from campsite registration records. The 17th when Matt went missing was a Wednesday so if they saw him Monday and he stayed in town Tuesday...any plans he discussed are VITAL to this case.

Also have inquired about who tried calling Matt after the 17th; all we received was a picture of dates/times.

Asked about getting into Matt's other bank accounts to see if there is anything strange or at least nail down times of transactions (considering receipts are gone). No response on that yet. No disrespect intended, but if I could only do all this myself...

I am working to find out if the individual who sent that last text message remembers when he sent it. Hoping he remembers. I know we all think he should remember what he texted and all that but I think I'd be equally guilty of forgetting. Difference is I'm a Techie so my phone would have it.

I'll go back to the thread and make sure I answered all the questions hanging.

I can't thank all of you enough for hanging around trying o solve the mystery.

PS...Matt would be 40 today

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Sep 8, 2013 - 09:30am PT
Hi all.....checking in...

How crucial it is right now to track down any information that may shrink our search area....the days are drawing shorter, weather is changing....our window is closing.

Tiffany, my thoughts are with you and the rest of the family on this, Matthew's birthday.

EDIT: Infection is being stubborn.....still gimping and cannot get my foot in a closed toed shoe.

Social climber
Lehigh Valley, PA
Sep 8, 2013 - 09:43am PT
Ron and Tiffany,

Thanks for posting your update. Your hearts must be so heavy today, on Matt's 40th birthday. I have a brother who turned 40 in August, and he lives out west (Colorado) and loves mountain pursuits like biking, skiing, and snowboarding. I cannot imagine how distraught I would feel if I were in your shoes. I want so much for there to be a break in the case that can help solve this mystery.

Which is why it is so maddening that Connie Silva and Arnold Morales have not been reached yet. It had not occurred to me that Facebook messages to them might have ended up in that "other" mail folder. I just found out recently that that existed. Another thing is, in looking at their timelines, that they don't seem to be frequent Facebook posters. Maybe they aren't on there too much. I did look today and noticed that Arnold posted something September 6 (a message to his wife, Jeannie Morales). And Connie had posted this message on your map update thread on September 3: "Did they have any news ? Or find Matt this weekend?" I saw that you had replied to that, but there was no response. She may not have seen it.

Do you know for a fact that the detectives have not yet been able to reach them? Here's what we can tell from the Facebook pages: Both Connie and Arnold live in Bakersfield California. Connie's page says she "worked at Walmart." Arnold's says "worked at Nabors Industries." Even with that past-tense wording, they may still work at those companies. The campground should have their contact info. There seem to be multiple ways to track them down.

Regarding the Facebook contact: In case Connie and Arnold have missed your private messages, I might suggest posting a public message on the Find Matthew Greene page that you are trying to reach them. It will go out to everyone who "liked" the page. It appears that Connie has the page "liked," and so does Arnold's wife, Jeannie. (Arnold does not.) Hopefully they would see your plea in their news feeds and try to contact you.

Good luck on this front, and continued well wishes and positive thoughts to all of Matt's family and loved ones....

Social climber
Sep 8, 2013 - 09:43am PT
Tiffany and Ron
Our thoughts are with you and the rest of the family today.

I sent you a PM call me when you get a chance. I am around for the next 30 min then we are heading out for the day.

Social climber
Northampton, PA
Sep 8, 2013 - 09:54am PT
I tried to "friend"Arnold and sent him a message from my regular account. I reached out to Connie and asked if she could put us in contact with Arnold. He has not responded. He also deleted all of his posts and messages from the facebook page, so it seems he does not want to be involved. -Ron

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Sep 8, 2013 - 09:59am PT
It sounds like Chief Watson needs to contact this "Arnold" guy....

Social climber
Lehigh Valley, PA
Sep 8, 2013 - 10:16am PT
I was still able to see Arnold's posts on that thread. For some reason, FB has some new system of ordering posts that I can't quite figure out. They are not always in date order anymore, and it's really confusing. I see Arnold's posts in a group with the August 25 date. His messages appear right under a rather lengthy one by Viola Krouse:

Arnold Morales I saw him on friday night 13th. My brother stayed until Monday and is trying to remember.
Like · Reply · 8 · August 25 at 12:30pm via mobile

Arnold Morales Me and my family spent the last days before he went missing. We might be able to help. Contact me.
Like · Reply · 6 · August 25 at 12:23pm via mobile

I would continue to try to reach him and his family in any way possible. Good luck.

ETA: And a big YES to what Cragman said. I cannot believe the police haven't reached these people yet.

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Sep 8, 2013 - 10:39am PT
Happy birthday, Matt.

Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
Sep 8, 2013 - 11:54am PT

You can sort posts by "most recent" or "top comments." It's annoying because it defaults to "top comments."


Social climber
Sep 8, 2013 - 12:12pm PT
FYI. The smoke has moved into Mammoth this morning.(

Social climber
Sep 8, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
Hi all,

Outdoorgirl...I have been working on putting together the "Arnold" information for Split Pants for some time. It is crucial that if he does know something that the police handle this in the right manner and we do not try to contact them. His folder is public, so getting into it is not the issue. The mother has deleted all of her posts. We don't want to scare them off.

Ron and Tiffany...I can help you with the subpoena on tech info if you need it...please pm me. As far as contact with Arnold...I would push the issue with the police since they are not responding to you. You are family, so you will have the most impact.

Cragman...I agree...it is crucial that the police move on this with the window of time closing. In fact...this should have been the push since Arnold's first message appeared. I thought the police were looking into this the last time I sent the info to Split Pants and she forwarded it to the police. Time is of the essence.

Split Pants...let me know if you need more than what I sent you. I can keep digging. Ron and Tiffany if you want a copy let me know, I can forward it to you via pm.

Matt...school isn't the same without you. Your colleagues and friends are missing you like crazy. We are all praying for your return. Happy Birthday...


Social climber
Hoboken, NJ by way of Orange County, CA
Sep 8, 2013 - 01:44pm PT
If the Mammoth Lakes PD isn't following up on leads in a timely manner, what about going to the Mono County Sheriff? (Apologies if this has already been suggested elsewhere.) Technically, if Matt disappeared outside of city limits, wouldn't it be the Sheriff's jurisdiction? Perhaps they'd be a little faster in following up on the Arnold/Connie Facebook posts.

Cragman, not sure if you've come across a SAR member and police officer (not for MLPD!) in the area named Joe Vetter - he's a straight-up guy and my brother's best friend since elementary school.

Hoping for a birthday miracle and that Matt is found TODAY. Happy birthday, Matt. And to Tiffany, Ron and the rest of Matt's family and friends, keeping you all in my thoughts and prayers.

edited I was unclear above - I mean asking Mono County to be the primary agency, not Mammoth Lakes PD.

Social climber
Carson City
Sep 8, 2013 - 01:52pm PT
Thinking of Matthew on his 40th birthday, and thinking about all his family, friends, colleagues, pupils, climbing partners and such.

From my reading here, he comes across as a capable, responsible, considerate, deliberate, and reliable athlete as well as an all around great guy to know.

I wish this bit with the Morales's could be dealt with so they would feel their privacy was not being infringed upon, yet the family, searchers, and LEO could get all information possible from them.

Trad climber
Sep 8, 2013 - 01:59pm PT

Social climber
Los Angeles
Sep 8, 2013 - 02:00pm PT
Tiffany and Ron,

I’m sorry it's been so hard to contact Arnold and his mother Connie! While Supermama is right that it’s important not to scare them away, OutdoorGal says that she can still see Arnold’s posts – apparently he didn’t delete them after all, but Facebook changed their order. (Which “Find Matthew Greene” post did Morales post under, again?) By the way, I sent you two PMs -- the second more useful than the first -- looks like yet another member of the Morales family also posted on the FB site a couple of weeks ago.

So maybe they aren’t so skittish after all? Hard to tell. I do know it’s easy to overlook messages in your Facebook “other” folder, or even in your regular folder. (For a while you could get to someone’s regular folder by paying $1, but it looks like FB has discontinued that.) The Mammoth Lakes police are very understaffed – I wonder when their part-time detective will get to this.

OutdoorGal points out that because Jeannie Morales and Connie Silva both “liked” the site, a message posted there might appear in their feeds. But that’s only if they left “notifications” on.

On another front, I’m also wondering whether things have moved forward regarding getting into Matt’s email accounts. I know that your attempts to change his password resulted in your getting locked out of his account. (Did you try filling out the questionnaire under “I can’t use any of these options"?) If that didn't work, would it be possible to quickly get a search warrant or subpoena to get into his accounts? (I'm not sure how this works.)

Thinking about Matt, his family, friends, and community on this day...

Social climber
Escondido CA
Sep 8, 2013 - 05:13pm PT

Rock Mandala Meditation
Saturday, Sept 14th, around 7pm I will be leading a rock mandala creation/meditation in the Heritage Park, across from the Escondido (CA) Art Partnership Gallery at Juniper and Grand. All are welcome to participate and bring a favorite stone, rock, feather, flower, etc. to send healing energy to loved ones or lost ones. I will be focusing on Matt, as well as my dog of 15 years. This is part of the Art & Science Exhibit at the gallery, so there will be visual and spatial exploration, as well as meditation.
Matt, I never met you but feel that I know you. The stones I will be bringing will combine the beauty of Lehigh Valley, PA where we are both from, and California. Happy Birthday!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s403x403/1003389_10201393038642130_2123865993_n.jpg///photo of mini rock mandala
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 8, 2013 - 05:19pm PT
sooo has anyone directly contacted "chief Watson" about the "arnold" guy?

That seems to be the first "doable" thing in about 900 posts here.

Trad climber
Bay Area
Sep 8, 2013 - 05:21pm PT
This fellow's flicker account has some excellent photos of east sides of Minarets, Ritter and Banner. Especially Ritter and Banner. The end of his journey shows Rim Fire smoke in Tuolumne so we know his trip is after Aug 17. At that time there were still very large snowfields beneath Clyde/Eichorn and on Ritter and Banner.
Pertinent photos are on days 2 and 3. Their camp 2 was below Ediza. Many of the photos are with a very good telephoto.
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