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FRUMY

Trad climber

SHERMAN OAKS,CA

Jul 24, 2013 - 08:48pm PT

Cragman you are not right on deaths of police officers.

Last year 47 killed by gun fire & 21 Killed in car accidents,& seven on motorcycles.

Rankin

Social climber

Greensboro, North Carolina

Jul 24, 2013 - 08:50pm PT

Thanks for backing me up Frumy. Not that it matters that much. Regardless, it's a dangerous job.

Brandon-

climber

The Granite State.

Jul 24, 2013 - 08:56pm PT

I wonder why they don't bust the whole Tom Evans circus show?

I think I read somewhere that Tom is on the NPS payroll, or something.

squishy

Mountain climber

Jul 24, 2013 - 09:11pm PT

lol, So that's what was going on over there...I thought there was an unusual amount of ranger activity near the bridge..

klk

Trad climber

cali

Jul 24, 2013 - 09:16pm PT

big mistake to expect to engage in un-structured activity in a national park. i'm sure there have been plenty of meetings after all the church mice sliding over the falls.

folks drown all the time in that river. and we should let them.

Chaz

Trad climber

greater Boss Angeles area

Jul 24, 2013 - 09:39pm PT

Rankin writes:

"I do know that an officer in the Greensboro City Police starts out making about $25k."

I hear that. We have a friend of the family working as a deputy in Bonner County, Idaho. He's like a Sergeant, and he's making about the same.

I like to remind our city Government of that every chance I get. We can get the exact same job done for far less money. We could afford to hire almost TEN Bonner County cops for what we pay just one Sergeant.

Maybe pay them $40,000/yr to relocate here from Idaho. Let them know they'll never need to chain-up, or put on studded tires at work ever again.

Our city is broke, but we're broke by choice.

Dangerous job, certainly. But farmers, fishermen, and trashmen have a greater chance of being killed on the job than a cop or a fireman.

cuvvy

Sport climber

arkansas

Jul 24, 2013 - 10:42pm PT

I bet we all have been a butth head at some time in our lives. Me for sure multiple times.
Move on. Relax. Breathe. Think about the beauty. I am dying to see the valley, but will still be a while. Nature is usually much nicer than(human) nature.
Give the gift of forgiveness.

Tobia

Social climber

Denial

Jul 24, 2013 - 10:47pm PT

Not agreeing or disagreeing...just sayin'.

saying what?

Crazy Bat

Sport climber

Birmingham, AL & Seweanee, TN

Jul 24, 2013 - 11:39pm PT

I also had two disturbing encounters in Yose this month. The first was a traffic stop. I was heading out of the park in that area where the left lanes are narrower than the right lanes. This vehicle got right where his lights were blinding me. I slowed down, he slowed down. I moved as far right as I could so he could pass me. You guess it was a LEO. He pulled me over for traveling on the fog line. He was startled when I told him why, but I figured traffic stops make everyone safer in the long run and didn't think much about it.

The other bothered me more. Our group was camped at Yose Creek campground and our camping was paid through Sunday. Everyone but me pulled out Saturday. Now for two weeks I was the one threatening anyone who left food out and lived up to my title of Camp Bitch. Saturday afternoon I pulled the tickets of the campsites that were no longer in use. That night I was at the next campsite down visiting with new campers when a LEO truck pulled into the campground, went right to our main site, where I was parked and using the bear box. They informed me that citronella products were left out (I use deet) as were cleaning products. If a sponge and a dish pan that had been left out for two weeks counted I guess I was guilty, but they had been used to wash feet. Then they told me that the two bears in the area were very aggressive. Not what the campground hosts said and we never saw a bear in the campground or heard of anyone who did. We were all polite and professional and Jessey had told me they had been told to pay close attention to us because were were doing something that had gotten other groups in trouble because they were charging to rappel El Cap and we were a large group.

They didn't issue a ticket, but what disturbed me was that they then left the campground without visiting any other sites. I think they expected to find a large group and were disappointed. I felt harrassed. They may have been professional acting, but lieing about what was left out and aggressive bears wasn't professional, even if it is allowed in law enforcement circles.

Thanks for giving me an excuse to vent about this!

climbski2

Mountain climber

Anchorage AK, Reno NV

Jul 25, 2013 - 12:13am PT

LEO caught lying?

SOP.. they are the best TRAINED liars you'll ever meet.

ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber

extraordinaire

Jul 25, 2013 - 12:31am PT

It's ignorant (OP) to think you gonna do antics at high profile beaches/ bridges in the valley. I'm not even that pro LEo or whatever - it's more a commen sense thing.

skywalker

climber

Jul 25, 2013 - 01:05am PT

Ya know we had an LEO here in this canyon that is very popular with climbers some years ago. Must have been from the flat lands and straight out of LEO school. His belt and gun barely stayed around his waist even with frequent maintenance.

Its traditionally been a dog loving area and he would tap on my window in the parking lot before I got out of my pick-up to ask me if I had a leash for my 10 yr old lab in the bed. I always did.

One time he decided to hike a cliff band that surely would produce a few dogs that may not be leashed. Mine wasn't. He asked me about the situation and I said I had no problem leashing my sleeping dog (her favorite activity) and did so without waking her up. There were 3 adults on the ground, no one around and I was cited for an uncontrolled animal. Apparently he cited 50+ people that day and many called his supervisor including me. He had to tear up all tickets and we never saw him again.

I was breaking the law but some level of free thinking should have been in order.

S...

Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber

I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!

Jul 25, 2013 - 02:01am PT

where do the rangers get their food?

and beverages?

Wayno

Big Wall climber

Seattle, WA

Jul 25, 2013 - 02:32am PT

What would Broderick Crawford say?

command error

Trad climber

Colorado

Jul 25, 2013 - 02:35am PT

When its 100+ I'll go swimming in the merced no matter how many corpses are
rotting in it upstream. My imagination makes me think I can smell
the diluted dead juice flowing past though.

The lack of a no jumping sign is very un-federal government-like.

GDavis

Social climber

SOL CAL

Jul 25, 2013 - 02:40am PT

Got pulled over in Tuolumne recently for 'speeding' - didn't go a single MPH over. Immediately started the routine, can I search your vehicle, playing that whole game. Eventually let me go with a speeding ticket, for which I did no speeding what so ever, which is money I don't have : /

Oh well, if this is my social injustice I'll take it on the chin. It ain't a big deal. I'm more likely to visit elsewhere, though. I can't afford to be profiled and searched (in the rain, no less) and there's too much rock in the sierra.