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Ray-J
Social climber
socal
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Sep 22, 2009 - 09:26pm PT
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Upgrade kit, hmmm.
Ya know, I tend to think of these as fair weather devices.
Think it was Don Lauria who wrote:
"All this assumes fair weather"
For me the big Q is if a sleeve inside as a foam-pad keeper
would be good.
Oh, and "nutjob is great".
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Bldrjac
Ice climber
Boulder
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Sep 22, 2009 - 10:14pm PT
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I should probably mention that I got the Pika Parasite for walls in the Ruth Gorge, Alaska.
The hammock has drainage holes for water to drip out of. It sets up quickly and is pretty easy to get into. True, it is not a ledge but it is still comfortable and has kept me dry. Using a synthetic bag keeps the cold spots down to a minimum. I just hang the Jetboil inside the hammock and brew tea and Ramen until i have to pee........oh and then life becomes way more difficult!!
Seriously the Pika works fine for a few nights out. After about 3 nights a ledge would be preferable. Just to be able to stretch out.
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rich sims
Trad climber
co
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Sep 22, 2009 - 10:30pm PT
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Dee ee
KDV could handle almost anything probably still can.
My last hammock bivy is the one I remember the most. Before the night was over I new my next would be on a ledge.
Did a night in a tree once, was really glad I lead the pitch as I chose first spot. As I remember the third was stuck in his aiders hanging from the tree. It was dark I could not see the guy sitting in front of me.
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Sep 23, 2009 - 01:12am PT
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I posted this one before but here it goes!
http://mosquitohammock.com/bathammock.html
I helped design this one but Tom did not sew adjustable buckles into the straps. So I had a friend sew some on for me.
Thermarest Pocket-
Beer coozies
multiple spreader bar applications
Mediocre rain fly
This thing is really comfy but weighs alot more than the forrest or Pika.
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mark miller
Social climber
Reno
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Sep 23, 2009 - 01:18am PT
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I love hardcore traditionalism but rent a ledge, or email me and borrow one.
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duncan
Trad climber
London, UK
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Sep 23, 2009 - 05:11am PT
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I can confirm Hammocks suck. I can also confirm that Hammocks + broken ribs suck big time.
Posted two years ago but any excuse to see it again...
Zodiac '81
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hooblie
climber
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Sep 23, 2009 - 06:54am PT
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okay, after the late season @ 12,000' sloshing hammock/tub event described upthread we decided a visqueen and ductape fly was in order prior to the next attempt. i volunteered to fill out the hammock for the form fitting process.
a gable roof sheltered the front steps (concrete) so i jumped up on the roof and slung a 4"x4" ridge beam complete with knee brace back to a recessed "post" looking thing on the wall. from that i rigged the hammock so i could just barely hooch into it off the top step of the porch.
i got settled beneath my spreader bar in supine repose. before my tailor could attach the first panel of plastic,
i plummeted silently to the stairs, no sense of falling in horizontal position. suddenly hip and elbow got slammed
from the blindside by the stairs. my yelp startled even myself. still processing indignant/stunned/confusion
when i was nearly bludgeoned by that triangle brace of nail riddled lumber, painted the color of the house.
neighbors watched as i howled and hopped a ragged war dance around the big tree out front holding my hip or elbow in sequence, my friend in concerned pursuit, preventing me, i guess from veering out into traffic.
tommorrow's return engagement, the ascent of the silver pillar, was rescheduled for later in the week
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Gunkie
climber
East Coast US
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Sep 23, 2009 - 07:45am PT
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From mucci...
http://mosquitohammock.com/bathammock.html
This thing looks pretty cool...
But hold on... This hammock can easily be used without foam pad and without the spreader bar for extreme climbing.
I'm pretty sure I'm not man enough for this thing called extreme climbing ;)
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Idaho, also. Sorta, kinda mostly, Yeah.
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Sep 23, 2009 - 09:07am PT
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No one is..... It's TOO extreme.
All my "hammocking" has been done in the backyard, or the Caribbean(Well, Puerto Rico, anyhow).
Props to the folks that paved the way to big wall comfort!!
There's still plenty of pain up there to be had.
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Ray-J
Social climber
socal
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Sep 23, 2009 - 10:16am PT
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The prototypes I and others have used/tested since...
Around 1980 ish don't have the "fins" or "scallops" like
The forrest or types like that, the curved side of the
"Scallop" being longer and - you know how vectors work :)
Frameless, soft, featherweight single anchor hammocks
Will always have a lot of limitations. And not really be
Comparable to ledges but...
To be specific, it might accurate to say that the hammocks
You have used, suck. Maybe they all don't?
The forrest idea, a cool general concept, is a fine example
Of limited skill w/ fabric and understanding of the human anatomy.
But, let me stress, I don't think light hammocks are suited to use
As weather protection, nor are they really suited to full-on wall stuff:
El cap etc.
If you can carry the ledge in, great.
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Sep 23, 2009 - 11:26am PT
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Gunkie said :"But hold on... This hammock can easily be used without foam pad and without the spreader bar for extreme climbing. "
Tom wrote the"Extreme" notes on the hammock, he is not a climber and so it all looks too Extreme for him.
If I was "Extreme Climbing" I would definitely want the thermarest and spreader bars.
Someone should give this thing a shot!
If you don't want to pay for one I will lone you mine complete with fly!
Just let me know when you plan on suffering.
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nutjob
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Sep 23, 2009 - 11:40am PT
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Mucci now I need to find a proper objective that requires the use of this thing... so far I do trad stuff that sometimes involves a space blanket.
On a related note, I do know this: a $3 inflatable air mattress from a Hawaiian thrift store isn't appropriate for multiple night bivies. Those things last about 15 minutes sandwiched between climbing gear and a sloping granite ledge. And then it's just plastic dead-weight to take up the climb.
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rich sims
Trad climber
co
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Oct 13, 2009 - 06:50pm PT
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Name this climber
Smiles early in the hammock
smlie gone
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jstan
climber
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Oct 13, 2009 - 07:09pm PT
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Salewa made a net hammock. When in it you looked like a spider's dinner. Some of the other hammocks were more problematic.
I don't know how one can portage more than 100# up a cliff. Seems like work.
But then everything is different now.
As long as it's fun nothing to be said.
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