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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Apr 20, 2013 - 03:43pm PT
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I like the bombers' uncle - the one who called them "losers". We could use more guys like him here.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Apr 20, 2013 - 03:48pm PT
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The interview with the uncle was one of the most raw and honest things I've seen on the news lately.
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Apr 20, 2013 - 03:50pm PT
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We should continue as we have as a strong nation offering freedom as a way of life because it's working 99.9% of the time, not talk like paranoid losers afraid of fulfilling our nation's creed.
I was thinking about this, earlier. The USA, is built on the premise of assimilating peoples. They become us. They are born here, they are us.
But radical Islam appears to threaten that. They're here, they talk like us, go to our schools, but they are not us. Think about the level of hate and rage it required to set that bomb next to an 8 year old boy, his small Sister and his Mom.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Apr 20, 2013 - 03:55pm PT
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Stunning copy and paste, I mean, insights.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Apr 20, 2013 - 03:56pm PT
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These sociopaths had about as much connection with Islam as the Westburough Baptists have to Christianity.
It's radically extreme fundamentalism of all shapes, creeds, colors and sexual orientations that is the disease and like cancer it exists within all humanity.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Apr 20, 2013 - 04:00pm PT
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Think about the level of hate and rage it required to set that bomb next to an 8 year old boy, his small Sister and his Mom. Too bad we can't ask that question of Little Timmy Mcviegh.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Apr 20, 2013 - 04:00pm PT
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Hey Jebus, nice!
You write good....
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Apr 20, 2013 - 04:28pm PT
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Radical anything threatens that is my contention.
Agreed. I'm 64 and as long as I can remember, bombs have been going off, in random places. I don't think anything we do will change that. Make it more difficult perhaps, but not eliminate it.
But Radical Islam is the Flavour of the Month right now. That's where most of them are coming from and more frequently than in any time in our history.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Apr 20, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
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April 19, 1995: A car bomb parked outside the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City kills 168 people and injures more than 500.
It is the deadliest U.S. bombing in 75 years. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols are convicted. McVeigh is executed in 2001 and Nichols is sentenced to life in prison.
the most dangerous enemy to the US is it's own deranged wingnuts.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Apr 20, 2013 - 04:58pm PT
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Like Sandy Hook wasn't an act of terror or the shooting at Virginia Tech?
What the f*#k is really with Ron and his hate towards Islam? He is one sick little scared man.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Apr 20, 2013 - 05:03pm PT
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You dumb sh#t...your hate is pretty obvious to everyone.
So you have a royal flush what do you call this hand whack job??
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/
Over 120,000 dead...but that is OK...a christian president did it...all is good!
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Apr 20, 2013 - 05:17pm PT
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Now that i think on it, the last time i actually thought a president to really be thinking was a brief moment when LBJ said in a speech,,"I shall NOT send good american boys thousands of miles from home to do what the south Vietnamese boys should be doin fer themselves"...
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yet that is exactly what Johnson did do, he dramatically escalated our "involvement"
and 50,000 American boys died in Vietnam
guess that President wasn't really "thinking" so good when his actions directly contradicted what he said he would NOT do
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Apr 20, 2013 - 06:09pm PT
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Sept 11, 2001,, THE most dangerous day for America since Pearl Harbor. Islamic extremists(mostly saudi) flew planes into the twin towers killing nealry 3000.. Care to PROOVE it? And NO Popular Mechanics doesn't count.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Apr 20, 2013 - 06:19pm PT
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Ron wrote: Nope Bob.. I was never for that "war". I too wondered why we were there.
Yes you were...you voted for Bush.
It was a radical christian war...Bush "was told" by God to INVADE Iraq.
It is amazing to see such a devout christian like Cragman encourage killing...just like Jesus would do.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Apr 20, 2013 - 06:20pm PT
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Uh Cragman, you do realize that he is an American Citizen right?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Apr 20, 2013 - 06:27pm PT
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And Coz,, i would love to see hedge go as well. It wouldnt be the first site to boot him..
so what other site did Hedge get banned from?
and it's ok to name it Ron, there are no disclosure rules or laws in play here
so ?
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Gene
climber
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Apr 20, 2013 - 06:31pm PT
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This one surviving terrorist will have a long list of supporters who feel he deserves his "Miranda Rights", and the right to due process.
As an enemy combatant guilty by his own admission of terrorist acts and capital murder, he deserves NONE of those rights.
Totally disagree with you on this, my brother.
He tried to damage our system, our way of life. He tried to make us tremble in our streets and homes. We can only prevail when we reject the idea that since he didn’t play by the rules, we don’t have to either. He deserves every freaking right available to him. Unlike his consideration for others. He will still go down hard without being sent to GitMo and water boarded.
We have to be bigger and better than these as#@&%es. He and his ilk want to destroy the Constitution. We have to defend it. Rule of law and such. Especially now.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Apr 20, 2013 - 06:32pm PT
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Cragman wrote: They lose their rights when they have sided with our enemies, and blown up our children.
So what happens when we blown up other peoples kid? Drone attack...etc.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Apr 20, 2013 - 06:34pm PT
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Gene wrote: He and his ilk want to destroy the Constitution.
Americans are doing a great job of that. Remember the 2000 election.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Apr 20, 2013 - 06:34pm PT
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I think people can be wayyyy to much of a dick to Ron and TGT. Mostly Ron, who never says a mean thing to anyone... sure he can be wrong but yeesh, you gotta let a few slide guys. lol.
edit to add:
I genuinely don't feel any better knowing that obviously sick people get treated worse, or tortured, or any of that sh#t. Whatever is wrong with these kids, it isn't something that I will be sated by their pain. That does NOTHING for me. I want them to go away and I don't want to see them again or hear of them. In a dark room in some desert somewhere. Done.
Yes, he should have rights because sometimes, sometimes we get it wrong. Is this a case? No. But it's all or none, no court of public opinion overrides it. Sorry... if for some reason it makes you feel better that we take shortcuts, well I don't see how that changes anything.
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