What Is Trad ?????????

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The Warbler

climber

the edge of America

May 22, 2013 - 09:31pm PT

anything beyond climbing ropeless, barefoot in a loincloth was not traditional.

The real purists get all snippy about wearing a loincloth

Chief

climber

The NW edge of The Hudson Bay

May 22, 2013 - 09:32pm PT

Nope, I'm a technophile and an aid climber.
Henry Barber and Skip Guerin are examples that come to mind.

RyanD

climber

Squamish

May 22, 2013 - 09:45pm PT

I think that boulder problem in Vitaliy's photo is a Gill route.

when he did it it was trad.

goatboy smellz

climber

Nederland-GulfBreeze

May 23, 2013 - 08:41pm PT

Kevin, that description seems appropriate if we are talking about "climbers"
but I interpreted it as the "activity of climbing was noble"
which is a bit pretentious considering how selfish it is overall.
Maybe I misunderstood but was just looking for clarification.

rgold

Trad climber

Poughkeepsie, NY

May 23, 2013 - 08:52pm PT

Noble schmobel. And courage schmourage for that matter. After 56 years, I love climbing as much as the next guy, but nobility and courage (except when referring to those who perform rescues) hardly apply to what is, in the end, just a game we choose to play.

Don't get me wrong, the game seems important to the players. To us. Some have devoted their lives to it. But I see more nobility in someone who, say, gives up a passion for climbing and works two jobs so their kids can have a better life than in all our heros combined posing on all the hard-gained summits of the planet.

T Hocking

Trad climber

Redding, Ca

May 23, 2013 - 09:18pm PT

Quote But I see more nobility in someone who, say, gives up a passion for climbing and works two jobs so their kids can have a better life than in all our heros combined posing on all the hard-gained summits of the planet. Here

+1 WORD!

Guilty myself.

30 yr. climbing hiatus to do just that.
resumed climbing after becoming a grandfather.

Captain...or Skully

climber

May 23, 2013 - 11:56pm PT

Trad. It's a myth, man.
Homer told me about that sh#t. Achilles was Trad, right?

DanaB

climber

May 24, 2013 - 06:37am PT

but nobility and courage (except when referring to those who perform rescues) hardly apply to what is, in the end, just a game we choose to play.

No kidding. Climbers are just ordinary people with a slightly unusual hobby, nothing more.

Mark Force

Trad climber

Cave Creek, AZ

May 24, 2013 - 10:57am PT

What Dana said!

Being climbers doesn't make us special, just a bit odd.

However wonderful the climbing game is to play; however fun and even transformative it can be, however great it can be to be part of the tribe; regardless of how awe inspiring some are at playing the game, it's just a game we play and doesn't make us anything special. What we do in life really starts to count when it counts for someone else. Just sayin...