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Norwegian

Trad climber
the tip of god's middle finger
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 6, 2013 - 11:04am PT
hank your fall on southern belle
was a first world problem, too.

so why tell us about it?

i've only a first-world understanding,
so my local struggles are valid in my heart.

im sure that, faced with identical burdens,
some iraqi youth could
skate circles around my writhing and struggling form,

though that same youth probably could not
send that pitch up the full side of half empty dome.
WBraun

climber
Apr 6, 2013 - 11:09am PT
In order to give up something you have to have something greater.

Otherwise it will be false renunciation and later one will fall back down.

Your family is far greater.

You talk too much and grok too little .....
pelut espania

Big Wall climber
Espania
Apr 6, 2013 - 11:13am PT
Amigo! You can still do the ACID no? Sangria es muy bueno but will make esposa muy loco si? Carry forward my favorite American dog and do the acid but no tequila. Viva Espania!
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Apr 6, 2013 - 11:16am PT
Pelut! Retard!




Weege get sober. Stay sober. Do it for your family.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Apr 6, 2013 - 11:19am PT
Good luck, seems like a no brainer.


Tell Paul I said hey, you guy's should come over someday
pelut espania

Big Wall climber
Espania
Apr 6, 2013 - 11:19am PT
Watch your tongue mi tubby Canuk! Canadia is not far from the muddy towers I rule and punish and I will come and send all the Candaia Dogs project in short tiempo. Viva Espania!
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Apr 6, 2013 - 11:22am PT
Got your back buddy. I've got a book for you too, let's connect. The lizards crawl and the snow melts, time to climb on stone with your friends.

Charlie D.
Stewart Johnson

climber
lake forest
Apr 6, 2013 - 11:25am PT
hang in there, its not forever, just a lifetime.
phylp

Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
Apr 6, 2013 - 11:55am PT
Please Enter Your Reply Below:

I sit here looking at the blank little reply rectangle thinking "HOW! How to say in a few words of internet type what I have learned to be the path to happiness". It's not some unique discovery I've personally made. Any one of a thousand wise teachers, ancient and modern, can help you find a path. They have put the words on paper far more skillfully than I ever will.

But you have to then take their words of wisdom and do the work with it. You have to be the one to work at it, every day, every hour, every minute. It is work at first, when your ego is so fixated on these concepts of what it is and what it needs to be happy. I suspect that your own ego may be addicted to the need to be the special, tortured, sensitive one. Your own ego may be the most secure and satisfied when you think you are the most miserable. The work is letting go of these thoughts, beliefs, reactions.

Please keep at the process. You have all that you need in the love of your family, in love in general.
Phyl




locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Apr 6, 2013 - 12:04pm PT


"i'll do it, only because i have to."...

Actually you don't HAVE to...

If you're doing it, it's because you CHOOSE to...

;-)


EDITED:

and in my HONEST opinion...

it's a very WISE choice!!!...

My family broke up due to my alcohol problem (The cheating didn't help, either!!! LOL!!!)...

Maybe you will be SMARTER than I was...
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 6, 2013 - 12:21pm PT
'...your own ego may be addicted to the need to be the special, tortured, sensitive one.'

Excellent pin-point analysis of our favorite whipping-boy, Phylyp.

Think of all the 'beat-on-me' stuff we have witnessed.

SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Apr 6, 2013 - 12:44pm PT
Credit: SCseagoat

Susan
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Apr 6, 2013 - 12:51pm PT
Pelut you are a troll. Stop trying to convince everyone you are the real thing. Un Des Tants is the real Pelut.

Weege, like others have said, you can only do this if you want to. Giving up the green stuff has been pretty easy for me, i've been in an environment where it's not around, but more so, i was sick of the side effects. I'm happy to not be a slave to a substance anymore. I happy to feel good when i want to instead of when i am able to smoke. I'm happy to wake up rested and not feel like a bag of sh#t every morning. I feel like i've taken off the shackles.

Go down this path a little longer my friend. I think you will find that you climb better, love better, write better, do everyhing better. Don't get sucked back in, by thinking, i'll just have one. One leads to two and so forth. I think we all know that road.

Do it for yourself, or don't. It's your life.
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Apr 6, 2013 - 01:00pm PT
Wise words Mike!
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Apr 6, 2013 - 01:03pm PT
I'd like to think i've learned a few things from this mess.. ;) thanks moose :)
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 6, 2013 - 01:04pm PT
Hey Weeg-bud,,I knew someone, who drank rather heavily per night for a long time. THe same situation eventually became to be, as the spouse was tired of the others "condition" towards eves end. The Drinker decided enough was enough, and put himself on a 3 beer/per night diet..He didnt quit,, but toned it back to an acceptable level- that too can be done. I myself find the need to stop smoking those damm ciggys- equally addictive and damaging. Ill bet nearly all of us have something..
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Apr 6, 2013 - 01:05pm PT

"Weege get sober. Stay sober. Do it for your family."...

If you do it for your family, and your family has problems, good chance you'll head right back to the bottle...

DO IT FOR YOURSELF!!!...(If you can't take care of #1, don't LOVE yourself, etc...)


Be aware however, that alcoholism in a family usually involves a good bit of Co-dependency (If you feel you are an alcoholic of course) and often when one get's sober, unseen/unexpected issues crop up...



http://www.alcoholanswers.org/friends-family/codependency.cfm




Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 6, 2013 - 01:22pm PT
Boiled down,, i dont know squat about keeping a wife or family. I gave up an that whole concept a while ago as my choices were designs for disaster. So dont listen to me lol!
Ezra Ellis

Trad climber
WA, & NC & Idaho
Apr 6, 2013 - 01:23pm PT
Best to u WEEG, that's a heck of A beautiful family!!!!

Savor the new journey!!!!
canyoncat

Social climber
SoCal
Apr 6, 2013 - 01:49pm PT
Your children don't trust you because you're a drunk and an alcoholic. The fact that you're still saying you "temporarily" are giving up drinking tells me they are correct in their judgement so far.

You have the choice to change their minds. Admit you can't drink. period. alcoholics should not drink. at. all.

Try that and see if the kids don't learn to trust their old dad. I bet they will. Wishing you strength. I mean that.
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