gettin rich. getting strong. getting sober.


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mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 10, 2013 - 12:48pm PT
Booze can be part of the process until it proves not to be beneficial to the art.

Far better not to start.

The questions you're gonna have to answer for the daughters of your eye will demand your complete honesty, so stand the f*#k by, you brave s.o.b.

That kids are mimics of adult behavior is the problem you need to ready yourself to counter or deal with in the future.

Apr 10, 2013 - 01:07pm PT
Oh, and, fer the record? I also strongly believe that your art, your amazing words ..........will only be enhanced by sobriety.

Hey Norwegian, Stay strong man. You are a unique individual, I agree with Tami here & actually notice a difference in your voice from the inception of this thread. You are on your way to the moon and it is going to be awesome there. Have a good day!


Mountain climber
there and back again
Apr 10, 2013 - 02:25pm PT
Sobriety has been anything but boring for me. I quit using and started climbing! I did things and went places I never could have chasing the demon.

Ten days. THATS AWESOME! Hold on to your ass bro your in for a hell of a ride. Before you know it you'll be wondering how to manage all your new found courage, strength and direction.

Your journey is not for the faint hearted. You got what it takes. Just breath and don't drink. If it gets bad (and it can) do what you've been doing and reach out. There is always support when you need it. Believe it or not this is helping me with my sobriety. Thanks


Trad climber
Apr 10, 2013 - 02:38pm PT
Good on you for being able to recognize what your situation really looks like from the outside. If you dont want to totally QUIT drinking, simply take a break for an extended period of time. One year minimum. See if your life has improved during that sober stint. Highly likely you( and those around you) will be better off with you being not drunk. I think everyone struggles giving up something FOREVER in a moments notice. Take a break and see if you really need it in a year or two.
We all need breaks from the routine from time to time , be it working, climbing, boozing etc

Bishop, CA
Apr 10, 2013 - 02:55pm PT
Good plan. I don't like absolutes either. I decided to take a year off intoxicants just to see other perspectives clearly. I'm on day 359 and plan on extending my original term.

Social climber
North Vancouver BC
Apr 11, 2013 - 01:04am PT
I packed some dirty socks away many, many years ago.
They weren't the same color as yours.
I always thought that when the time was right or no more damage could be done,
I might wear those socks again for old times sake.
Years later,
I stumbled across them again.
They didn't fit.
I'll never wear those socks again.

Your words are great and reminiscent of Jimmy Webb lyrics.
Delhi Dog

Good Question...
Apr 11, 2013 - 01:15am PT
This ain't for the poet,
it's for the rest of you.

You guys and gals are rock stars!!!

And for the poet, nothing last forever, your little ones
will be gone before you know it. Be there for them with them and by them
while you can. They love you unconditionally as you do them.


Dick Erb

June Lake, CA
Apr 19, 2013 - 11:44pm PT
I hope your still doing OK Weege.

Apr 20, 2013 - 09:51am PT
Weege, this too will pass. Hang on and enjoy the ride. I thought of my response would be as more of a "welcome to the club" kind of thing. We're all there or been there or heading there.

Nobody is getting out alive.


Trad climber
the tip of god's middle finger
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 21, 2013 - 12:36am PT
i was driving home, just now under the ambitious moon.
i creep silently down my gravel road, the engine killed,
usually some pink floyd playing
(in college my nickname was pinky cause i loved flood,
and my middle name is floyd)
and nothing hurries, within me.

around the fourth corner, i stop.
shadow is in the road.
and he aint gettin up.
he's earned his rest, and,
though i've been through 10 hours of predawn
engineering followed by 8 hours
of technical tree work,
i'm content,
just waiting for shadow
to exhaust his idle position.

the moon is on our side.
it glides so slowly that shadow
needn't hurry across landscapes.

so i get out of the beat up truck
which monthly yanks anxious dollars outta my rockstar wallet...

and walk up and sit next to shadow.
i don't say nothing.
because what do you say to a shadow?

i'd like to know his story.
like what's between him and the light.

i don't ask, though.
i just sit in the dark and listen.
eventually the shadow, he gets up
and limps off according to his own crooked gait,
and i sit a while longer.

alone, now.
except for the wild iris that leans
towards the weak moon-gleam.

i finish unstarted thoughts.
and i realize that life just aint
right without a drinking problem.

im alright, with everything.
love. hate. trust. fear. even dying aint got my attention.

im studying to improve my shadow.
it's lonely and incompetent and dodgy,
out there, always two or three strides beyond me.

it'll someday be a perfect shadow,
once i master that wretched object that stands between
it and the light.

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 21, 2013 - 12:42am PT
Now that's more like it.

Social climber
humboldt nation
Apr 21, 2013 - 01:21am PT
poetry, like that was solid bro. norwegian, you got word smith skills
Big Mike

Trad climber
Apr 21, 2013 - 01:35am PT
Wow weege. Wow.
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