MISSING hikers SANTA ANA MTS--holy jim canyon..4/2013


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Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Apr 4, 2013 - 02:02pm PT
I know they went off the trail, but how far could they go? not far.
Dr. F is right. I grew up in the OC and have hiked and biked in that area alot. You'd have to work pretty hard and suffer a fair bit to get far off trail. Just too much brush and poison oak. I'm not saying that a pair of young knuckleheads unfamiliar with the outdoors couldn't do it--clearly they did--but it strikes me as odd, especially now that only one of them wandered out. I'm sure there are lots of details they are not sharing.

Apr 4, 2013 - 04:13pm PT
She's been found and is dehydrated but appears okay otherwise.

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Apr 4, 2013 - 04:30pm PT
Nice that the guy got separated from the girl. Good dude to have with you out hiking. KNOT!!!!

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Apr 4, 2013 - 04:36pm PT
Story is that she possibly has an ankle injury, and he was trying to get help. Neither were terribly coherent when found.

Lots of folks try to be heros by striking out to find help. It doesn't always work out well. If there is an active search, it is generally better to stay together.

One sheriff gave a gal holy hell for separating from her boyfriend on a hike and getting lost. I gave him holy hell fot that. I reminded him that girls and boys have fights, or some guys won't take no for an answer. Your job is to find them. Leave the parenting to their parents.

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 4, 2013 - 04:40pm PT
Tough way to get dumped but it worked out.

Social climber
An Oil Field
Apr 4, 2013 - 04:45pm PT
Alien extraction, happens all the time. Aliens need humans to do the work they won't do.

Hey. This happens all of the time and most people hide it. I was abducted at the age of 18 and they abused me sexually.

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Apr 5, 2013 - 01:25am PT
Kids have been disappearing into the hills to do acid and getting lost for as long as there have been kids and acid. These kids are no different.
Patrick Sawyer

Originally California now Ireland
Apr 5, 2013 - 08:17am PT
So Chaz, are you saying it was an acid test?

And there is no such things as aliens, we are all from the same universe, just different planets and solar systems. And galaxies.

But thankfully, whatever the story, they have been found safe and alive.

Mountain climber
Apr 9, 2013 - 03:34am PT
what a trip, reading what the lost hikers experienced.

alien abduction or dehydration?


She said the last thing she remembers is fighting off an animal with Cendoya after darkness fell, but she does not recall how the two got separated or what she did between then and her rescue. She hallucinated she was being eaten by a python, she tried to eat rocks and dirt, and thought that tree twigs were straws from which she could suck water.

"I honestly didn't even know I was missing, I didn't know I was gone, I didn't know anything was going on," she said. "I just thought I was in a big dream."

Big Mike

Trad climber
Apr 9, 2013 - 03:50am PT

The pair had picked the hike on the popular Holy Jim Trail almost at random after deciding they wanted to climb to a mountaintop to "touch the clouds," Jack said at a brief news conference.

Now that sounds like some killer drugs talking...

Social climber
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 9, 2013 - 05:18am PT
hey there say, kunlun_shan and all... not meaning to be mean, just
trying to understand:

oh my, i read some of the after-stuff in a few news follow-ups, and i've never heard anything LIKE this in my whole life--the part about
NOT even remembering that they were on a hike...

is this normal for dehydration? just curious...

i DO know that temporally yes, folks hallucinate, but
this is really strange, :(

and coming on so soon? was it the first day?? when they called?
or--perhaps i may not understand all this when i read it...

if any rescue workers have more light to shed on this,
thank you for any shares you can provide as to the
whole strange situation, :O

i remember a few other stories, of lost folks, being found, but this is so very different and seems so very strange...

important note:
i feel so bad for the deputy that got hurt...

seems everyone forgot about him :(... he had a head injury, i sure hope
this will not affect his long term recovery, as to life issues, in the
future... no updates, :(

prayers for him and his family...


Mountain climber
The Library Window
Apr 9, 2013 - 05:21am PT
Next hiking trip, bring water instead of jimson tea.

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 9, 2013 - 10:18am PT
Our yard is almost an acre....can't tell you how many times i had to search for missing guests.

Apr 9, 2013 - 10:22am PT
we have a couple acres it's downright scary

Ice climber
Happy Boulders
Apr 9, 2013 - 11:10am PT
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Apr 9, 2013 - 01:55pm PT
They were on their first date apparently, just a warmup. Gotta wonder what they got planned for their next adventure.
Big Mike

Trad climber
Apr 9, 2013 - 02:10pm PT
i feel so bad for the deputy that got hurt...

seems everyone forgot about him :(... he had a head injury, i sure hope
this will not affect his long term recovery, as to life issues, in the
future... no updates, :(

prayers for him and his family...

Agreed neebs!

Social climber
Costa Mesa, CA
May 2, 2013 - 03:04pm PT
It was revealed today in a local paper that in car the couple had driven to the trail head, law enforcement found half a gram of speed. This was found while the hikers were "lost." What do you want to bet the two had taken some speed, taken too much, and were paranoid, as speed can make a person, and were hiding from the searchers. The hikers said they had become delusional and were hallucinating. Yep! They're stoned!

I've hiked Holy Jim Canyon and it's not that complicated. A lot of people go into that area and the trails are well defined.

It will be interesting to see how this story plays out.


Mountain climber
San Diego
May 2, 2013 - 03:11pm PT
Surprise Surprise
Jon Beck

Trad climber
May 2, 2013 - 03:17pm PT
and now we know the rest of the story.

At least they saved some of the stash for the after party!
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