Several years into 70m rope availability, what say you?


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Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2013 - 12:28pm PT
good insights all, thx much, keep it coming.

Especially Valley and Meadows climbers and Wallers.

Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Mar 26, 2013 - 12:36pm PT
Ive had a 70 some time now. I don't like the extra bulk and weight if that excess is for the most part laying on the ground unused. I prefer a shorter lighter rope for any sort of simulclimbing and I would never take that 70 into the back country or high alpine. Its just too honking heavy.

So I'm a 70m user for sure, but if I could only have one rope I'd stick with a 60.

Luckily I have different ropes for different jobs.


Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 26, 2013 - 12:39pm PT
ropes are for sailors


Mar 26, 2013 - 12:40pm PT
70 is great. If you actually climb enough to wear your rope down you can cut it down as the ends get fuzzy, creating a longer lasting rope. 70m pitches are fun too.

Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
Mar 26, 2013 - 12:44pm PT
im going to 80m this year

Social climber
Dalian, Liaoning
Mar 26, 2013 - 12:47pm PT
Longer ropes contribute to climate change.
gonzo chemist

Fort Collins, CO
Mar 26, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
I'll never buy a 60m rope again. I've been using 70m exclusively for about the last 3 years.

I spent all last week in Indian Creek and climbed plenty of lines that were longer than 100ft.

Here's two examples where having a 70m was nice:

The Wave, on Supercrack Butress.
Top Sirloin, on Second Meat Wall.

I wish I'd had an 80m for Jolly Rancher on Pistol Whipped Wall.


Social climber
London, Paris, WV & CA
Mar 26, 2013 - 12:59pm PT
I have two 70s, climb in the Valley, TM and the Sierra with them all the time. I found I can do After 7 as a 3 pitch route - last time I went up with 2 noobs, our party of 3 passed everyone else on the route.
If I can find an 80 I'll buy it.

Social climber
Dalian, Liaoning
Mar 26, 2013 - 01:04pm PT
100 meters, here we come!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 26, 2013 - 01:12pm PT
NEVER worried about rope lengths and rarely ran them to the end. 150' be plenty for me. I belay where a nice ledge shows up.. Dont care if its 100 , 124, or 98 feet. Dont give a rip about speed- ya miss too much along the way. May even kick back on the ledge talking with a cliff frog or sumpn..;-)
Big Mike

Trad climber
Mar 26, 2013 - 01:21pm PT
My buddy kyle cut one of his ropes down to 35m for simuling. Its perfect. Just enough rope for no drag.

It's not about speed it's about continuos climbing. Linking the whole chief in three huge pitches is just rad!

Mar 26, 2013 - 01:25pm PT
pfft - 80's were in vogue when this thread started but everyone is running 90m's now.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Mar 26, 2013 - 01:35pm PT
ropes are for sailors

blasphemy! sailors use lines. It is rope until it is put into service, then it is a line or some other term such as hawser, halyard or lanyard, never a rope.


Trad climber
Mar 26, 2013 - 01:36pm PT
70m - A MUST HAVE for certain areas.

What areas?

Is there a place where the anchors are 70 meters apart?.

Back in the olden days, we actually brought TWO ropes if the raps were long...I guess nobody does that anymore?

Gym climber
sawatch choss
Mar 26, 2013 - 01:36pm PT
Ropes are like shoes, you can never have too many if you're looking for the ideal setup for each occasion.

I love my marathon 80 for long sport pitches, Indian Creek, and helping bruce hilden reassure himself that he is a master of logic immune to 'fads' like like not getting lowered off the end of the rope.

The 70 comes out for long-but-easy stuff like the EBMC where linking pitches does not entail a monster rack, or long-but-hardish stuff in the Black where the extra length is mostly a security measure in the event of a bail but 2 ropes would be too much too manage.

60m is kind of a default standard for cragging or multi-pitch- good enough for most single pitches and the occasional rope-stretching link.

50m- I haven't had one of these that has seen real use since the mid-90's. I have a 9.1 Joker that comes out for the alpine, or easier multi-pitch with a low chance of extensive hanging.

<50m (chopped ropes, mostly) actually get more use than the 50m 'standard' since there's lots of dinky sport crags where I live and 140' or so is plenty.

Buying more ropes costs more money, but the upside is that the wear gets spread out over them all so no one rope gets worn out real soon (mind you, I don't climb a lot of hard sport).

Given that the No.1-with-a-bullet way of getting hurt cragging seems to involve lowering with inadequate rope, carrying a bit of extra to the average single-pitch joint doesn't seem to be a big imposition-- especially compared with the time-sucking/dangerous shenanigans we all find ourselves doing when toproping longer single pitches.

Trad climber
New Durham, NH
Mar 26, 2013 - 02:47pm PT
Ron Anderson wrote:
May even kick back on the ledge talking with a cliff frog or sumpn..;-)

Am I the only one that read this and thought, "lick it?"

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Mar 26, 2013 - 03:08pm PT

I use a 30m, a 50m, a 60m and a 70m...

Each has an application that suits my needs...

If I find that an 80m is useful, I'll get one of those two...

(But PLEASE don't tell mountainlion)...


Dave Kos

Social climber
Mar 26, 2013 - 03:14pm PT
I have a 70m.

Sometimes I'm glad I brought it.

Sometimes I ask myself - why do I have all this rope?

Mar 26, 2013 - 03:30pm PT
Can u even buy 50m ropes anymore?

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2013 - 05:24pm PT
not to thread drift my own thread, but why are static lines almost always sold in lengths that are shorter than your average climbing CORD?

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