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Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 6, 2013 - 10:28pm PT
They made some good ones. (OK should have said "formerly Commie")

I just picked up a cheap (cost = less than current cost of 600 rds of ammo) 9mm made by a 40 year old Bulgarian company
http://www.arcus-bg.com/

the 98DA takes best features of a Browning Hi-Power, a CZ 75, and an IMI Baby Eagle and shamelessly rips them off.

The DA trigger pull is stout, but SA is very sweet, crisp and about 5lbs.

I haven't tried it out but I took it apart inspecting fit and finish and I'm really impressed.
I now have guns from more than a dozen different countries (my excuse for buying it).



A friend of mine who is a gunsmith took apart a Norinco 1911 and made a similar observation.


Any theories as to why the commies, who couldn't seem to compete with free enterprise, still made great guns?
The greatest battle rifle of all time was designed by a guy who never made a ruble off of the 57 million plus units made.




edit;
knew you'd like it, moano
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 6, 2013 - 10:29pm PT
Yippie, another gun thread. Thanks, Toker.

kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Mar 6, 2013 - 10:32pm PT
Credit: kennyt
Gary

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Mar 6, 2013 - 10:44pm PT
Coolest weapon ever made:
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Mar 6, 2013 - 10:59pm PT
1 word, 1 word for the graduate: VEPR 12.

It's a 12 ga shotgun built on the AK platform by Russian weapon mfg Molot.

Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:09pm PT
Ron,

Have you ever actually killed someone with all the ballistic acumen you have and puked after for it accordingly ?

Or do you just like to target shoot and pretend ?
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2013 - 11:16pm PT
Jim, my last shooting partner made three nice groups in round bullseye targets, but didn't want to fire at a silhouette reactive target because according to her "it looks too much like a person".

You are projecting your assumptions.

Not everybody who has guns has homicidal fantasies.


So leave me alone, I gotta get back to watching Red Dawn,..






edit for kenny; they own guns. It might NOT be safe.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:18pm PT
I gotta get back to watching Red Dawn,..

Is it safe to say that most people who own guns share that fantasy?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:28pm PT
Toker...The Ruskies have a long history of being invaded...Remember that short frog and the altar boy with the funny caterpillar under his nose...? ...After decades of this harassment , the commies finally got fed up and fought back....
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:31pm PT
ol ticklikker tu
ol ticklikker tu
Credit: Ron Anderson

aint no commie gun,, just pure kentucky half stock..
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:32pm PT
So !

You're a target shooter who would be troubled accepting the deep cost of what steel and wood people killers are truly made for.

This thread ain't about a deer hunting rifle.

karodrinker

Trad climber
San Jose, CA
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:34pm PT
there has to be a gun lovers forum somewhere, posting this here is f*#king lame.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:37pm PT
right up there with chalk debates..
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:38pm PT
Ron, why don't you start "The Mother Of All Gun Threads"

Kinda like what Craig did with the "Why are republicans wrong" thread. It'll provide
a place for people who love (or hate) guns to have their conversation, and will
keep new gun threads from popping up all the time.

And no, I don't hate guns. But not everybody here shares your lust/fantasy.
tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:54pm PT
Ron, if you ever want to come visit in Canada, you shouldn't be bored!. Between myself and a couple of my neighbors in the surrounding acreages, we have 4 'ranges' up to 1600 yards, 5+ .50cal and more than 200 other toys. Enough plinking fun for days!


LilaBiene

Trad climber
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:54pm PT
Just 4 u!
Just 4 u!
Credit: LilaBiene
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 7, 2013 - 12:15am PT
Two of my Russian firearms.
Both semi-auto Chambered in 7.62x39mm
The AK-47's Grandfather and Grandson.

1953 Russian Tula factory SKS
Credit: pud

2006 Saiga Izhmash Factory IZ 132
Credit: pud
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2013 - 12:16am PT
Lila,
if you spell it with a W it is not nearly as interesting.



Not a great fan of the SKS, but I'm into Saigas and AKs in general.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Mar 7, 2013 - 12:18am PT
A (climbing) friend has both a Mosin 91 rifle and that ubiquitous pistol - the Makorov. He's let me shoot them more than once. Both dirt cheap, highly reliable and amazingly accurate for the money you pay. Mosins were going for under a hundred bucks.

Good stuff.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 7, 2013 - 12:40am PT
'White Feather' was happy the trigger pull of the Mosin Nagant M91/30 PU Sniper was a little
heavier than his Winchester Model 70.
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