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Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 1, 2013 - 09:32pm PT
I'm going to make this a very brief post, and then I'll return to lurking.

I've been hanging out at SuperTopo for over 3 years now, and I've enjoyed most of the experience in addition to making a bunch of new friends and finding some GREAT climbing partners. It's also enabled me to reconnect with many old friends with whom I'd lost touch.

But recently, the whole atmosphere has changed to one of extreme negativity towards others. That I don't like at all! What it means ... it's no longer fun to post here, since too many self appointed know-it-alls immediately begin piling on if the view expressed doesn't fit the going norm. The responses rapidly degrade to personal attacks on intelligence, perceptions, and degradation of individuals.

The business of t*r doing a nuke-bomb of ChrisMac's website struck me as the epitome of immature and self-righteous zealotry. ChrisMac has spent his time and his money providing us with a great forum. I don't know t*r, but in an infantile hissy-fit, she crossed the line in the sand from expressing her views to a form of destructive vandalism. A friend remarked to me in a PM that t*r was in her early 30's, going on 14. And was also described as a "drama queen," which all I can say is...if the shoe fits, she'd better get it on.

So I'm now going to sit back and watch the fur fly! Hee, hee!
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Feb 1, 2013 - 09:41pm PT
Zzzzzzzzzzzzžźż…
Roxy

Trad climber
CA Central Coast
Feb 1, 2013 - 09:41pm PT
Lurking is way GNAR!
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Feb 1, 2013 - 09:43pm PT
That wasn't brief.

Curt
Norwegian

Trad climber
Pollock Pines, California
Feb 1, 2013 - 09:43pm PT
why do youst need
to announce to us
that us that you've
quit participating within our concourse?

your gesture seems shallow.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Feb 1, 2013 - 09:43pm PT
It's a great place to get yer spelling and grammar checked!
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Feb 1, 2013 - 09:44pm PT
don't be such a kent
RyanD

climber
Squamish
Feb 1, 2013 - 09:45pm PT
I didn't even read your post... But good! The people that don't like it here for whatever reason should leave. No need to throw yourself a going away party. It has obviously turned into a go away party which should be expected.
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
Feb 1, 2013 - 09:55pm PT
I agree, I used to look at supertopo as an avenue to connect with climbers or alpinists. It is now a place where out of touch folks tell you you are stupid/dumb...etc.... for trying to say hi or interact and share knowledge.

Where have the big names that used to post gone? They don't post here anymore, and you can't blame it on me.

It is sad, obituaries are what lead me (and keep me) to this sight not climbing knowledge/info.

As Bob Skinner (Todd's dad) told me, "there are no strangers in the mountains, just friends you haven't met".

-Hugh
Norwegian

Trad climber
Pollock Pines, California
Feb 1, 2013 - 09:58pm PT
ahh bullshite,
if you fools of narrow interpretation
cannot appreciate
the discourse
centered around your fellow dirtbags
bathing,
then you have lost touch
with the commun onderlieing
theme that unites
all of us mountain zealots:

absurdity.

go wipe each other's
asses with spitshined douche rags.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Feb 1, 2013 - 10:01pm PT
The business of t*r doing a nuke-bomb of ChrisMac's website struck me as the epitome of immature and self-righteous zealotry. ChrisMac has spent his time and his money providing us with a great forum. I don't know t*r, but in an infantile hissy-fit, she crossed the line in the sand from expressing her views to a form of destructive vandalism.

didn't Chris Mac, at the same time, take down the Boob thread? which I assume (I was out climbing) was the object of the nukeing?

I don't know about self-righteousness and zealotry, but those words certainly don't suggest that we're trying to work out what the domain of appropriate behavior is... and I don't mean that in a suppressive manner, rather, when many people of different backgrounds get together there is sure to be misunderstandings of what is appropriate, and it gets worked out.

If we insist on having absolute freedom and liberty to post what we wish, then maybe we should consider creating our own web site to do it on. As far as I know, this web site is "owned" by SuperTopo, and the owner can decide what is appropriate and what is not.

Destructive vandalism, a.k.a. nukeing, on the STForum site didn't start with t*r, but I believe originated by members in good standing with this community. Why should t*r be singled out as a special case?

When I read what you wrote, BDC, it seems that you feel that t*r was on the "out" with the prevailing STForum "norm."

Time to take a deep breath and consider just why we post here.

Hopefully not just to look at boobs.

I haven't met t*r in person, I have corresponded, in the past, with her via email. I wouldn't presume to have an opinion as to whether or not she is a "drama queen" any more than other posters to the Forum.
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
Feb 1, 2013 - 10:05pm PT
It is only your guys loss that great climbers are not reading/posting on this site. I am confused why you don't want Jello, etc posting anymore. (This used to be a climbers forum).
Norwegian

Trad climber
Pollock Pines, California
Feb 1, 2013 - 10:13pm PT
you don't have a clue as to
why robinson and lowe don't post here anymore.

to claim that you do
illuminates your ignorance.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Feb 1, 2013 - 10:18pm PT
Really, it's not a brain trust out there.

or in here

heh
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 1, 2013 - 10:19pm PT
Harding quit posting here because of all the self aggrandizing.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Feb 1, 2013 - 10:19pm PT
" (This used to be a climbers forum)."


It still is,Q
I still climb, and have been for the last 47 years.
And I'm pretty sure almost all the posters here,still,
get on the rock every once in a while.
Some more than others, I grant.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Feb 1, 2013 - 10:20pm PT
t*r doing a nuke-bomb of ChrisMac's website struck me as the epitome of immature and self-righteous zealotry.

you obviously need to get out more.

Q- Ball

Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
Feb 1, 2013 - 10:23pm PT
Hey Scandinavian- I may not know the full story on certain folks, but supertopo became a place to not share knowledge!

Supertopo used to be a fun place to interact, don't blame me for the lack of participation. I hope to share but i get railroaded for proposing an idea! Why did mentioning folks leaving hit a nerve?
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Feb 1, 2013 - 10:25pm PT

Rodger, don't stay away too long. Your contributions are always
valuable.

What Ed said is pretty spot on too. It seems like there's a need
for some maturity around here at times. . .
Norwegian

Trad climber
Pollock Pines, California
Feb 1, 2013 - 10:26pm PT
hey man
the wind blows thru here
and it leaves all kinda
tracks in the sand.

there is no explanation,
only mystery.
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