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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 1, 2013 - 09:32pm PT
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I'm going to make this a very brief post, and then I'll return to lurking.
I've been hanging out at SuperTopo for over 3 years now, and I've enjoyed most of the experience in addition to making a bunch of new friends and finding some GREAT climbing partners. It's also enabled me to reconnect with many old friends with whom I'd lost touch.
But recently, the whole atmosphere has changed to one of extreme negativity towards others. That I don't like at all! What it means ... it's no longer fun to post here, since too many self appointed know-it-alls immediately begin piling on if the view expressed doesn't fit the going norm. The responses rapidly degrade to personal attacks on intelligence, perceptions, and degradation of individuals.
The business of t*r doing a nuke-bomb of ChrisMac's website struck me as the epitome of immature and self-righteous zealotry. ChrisMac has spent his time and his money providing us with a great forum. I don't know t*r, but in an infantile hissy-fit, she crossed the line in the sand from expressing her views to a form of destructive vandalism. A friend remarked to me in a PM that t*r was in her early 30's, going on 14. And was also described as a "drama queen," which all I can say is...if the shoe fits, she'd better get it on.
So I'm now going to sit back and watch the fur fly! Hee, hee!
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Roxy
Trad climber
CA Central Coast
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Lurking is way GNAR!
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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That wasn't brief.
Curt
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Pollock Pines, California
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why do youst need
to announce to us
that us that you've
quit participating within our concourse?
your gesture seems shallow.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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It's a great place to get yer spelling and grammar checked!
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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I didn't even read your post... But good! The people that don't like it here for whatever reason should leave. No need to throw yourself a going away party. It has obviously turned into a go away party which should be expected.
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Q- Ball
Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
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I agree, I used to look at supertopo as an avenue to connect with climbers or alpinists. It is now a place where out of touch folks tell you you are stupid/dumb...etc.... for trying to say hi or interact and share knowledge.
Where have the big names that used to post gone? They don't post here anymore, and you can't blame it on me.
It is sad, obituaries are what lead me (and keep me) to this sight not climbing knowledge/info.
As Bob Skinner (Todd's dad) told me, "there are no strangers in the mountains, just friends you haven't met".
-Hugh
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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The business of t*r doing a nuke-bomb of ChrisMac's website struck me as the epitome of immature and self-righteous zealotry. ChrisMac has spent his time and his money providing us with a great forum. I don't know t*r, but in an infantile hissy-fit, she crossed the line in the sand from expressing her views to a form of destructive vandalism.
didn't Chris Mac, at the same time, take down the Boob thread? which I assume (I was out climbing) was the object of the nukeing?
I don't know about self-righteousness and zealotry, but those words certainly don't suggest that we're trying to work out what the domain of appropriate behavior is... and I don't mean that in a suppressive manner, rather, when many people of different backgrounds get together there is sure to be misunderstandings of what is appropriate, and it gets worked out.
If we insist on having absolute freedom and liberty to post what we wish, then maybe we should consider creating our own web site to do it on. As far as I know, this web site is "owned" by SuperTopo, and the owner can decide what is appropriate and what is not.
Destructive vandalism, a.k.a. nukeing, on the STForum site didn't start with t*r, but I believe originated by members in good standing with this community. Why should t*r be singled out as a special case?
When I read what you wrote, BDC, it seems that you feel that t*r was on the "out" with the prevailing STForum "norm."
Time to take a deep breath and consider just why we post here.
Hopefully not just to look at boobs.
I haven't met t*r in person, I have corresponded, in the past, with her via email. I wouldn't presume to have an opinion as to whether or not she is a "drama queen" any more than other posters to the Forum.
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Q- Ball
Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
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It is only your guys loss that great climbers are not reading/posting on this site. I am confused why you don't want Jello, etc posting anymore. (This used to be a climbers forum).
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Pollock Pines, California
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you don't have a clue as to
why robinson and lowe don't post here anymore.
to claim that you do
illuminates your ignorance.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Really, it's not a brain trust out there.
or in here
heh
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Harding quit posting here because of all the self aggrandizing.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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t*r doing a nuke-bomb of ChrisMac's website struck me as the epitome of immature and self-righteous zealotry.
you obviously need to get out more.
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Q- Ball
Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
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Hey Scandinavian- I may not know the full story on certain folks, but supertopo became a place to not share knowledge!
Supertopo used to be a fun place to interact, don't blame me for the lack of participation. I hope to share but i get railroaded for proposing an idea! Why did mentioning folks leaving hit a nerve?
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Rodger, don't stay away too long. Your contributions are always
valuable.
What Ed said is pretty spot on too. It seems like there's a need
for some maturity around here at times. . .
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Pollock Pines, California
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hey man
the wind blows thru here
and it leaves all kinda
tracks in the sand.
there is no explanation,
only mystery.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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The key to supertopo success is to only go to posts that interest you;...don't take anything too seriously, and remember that the internet is not even real........I like supertopo.....but I only open only a handful of posts.......It's like a buffet;....only eat the food you like......Your years old climbing and insight is valuable here, Roger......lurk on, but throw a snowball when need be...
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Brokedownclimber, I always appreciate what you post. Don't go too far away. Just try to ignore all that grandstanding. There's been way too much time given to a few people trying to suck all the attention they can.
Back to our regular programming.....
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S.Leeper
Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
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right on Todd!
It's not that serious ; /
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