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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 31, 2013 - 01:16am PT
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Proving a negative is an extremely tough thing to do, and requires extraordinary evidince.
What extaordinanary evidence do you have to prove your negative, jghedge?
Zero?
That's what I thought.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2013 - 01:34am PT
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So why don't you -- jhedge and donald thompson -- get a room somewhere and work it out in private.
Why can't you self-centered losers take your endless stupid argument somewhere else. Somewhere where you won't piss off everybody else with your childish need to score points off someone who is as much of an as#@&%e as you are.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Jan 31, 2013 - 01:51am PT
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I think what ghost meant to say was; "If you could take your off topic conversation elsewhere and delete those posts it would be much appreciated."
;)
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jan 31, 2013 - 01:57am PT
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"Proving a negative is an extremely tough thing to do, and requires extraordinary evidince."
That's soooo true. I can't for the life of me understand how you guys believe that Shrub's jackbooted approach to 9/11 stopped any further attacks. That negative can't be proven, yet you guys buy it hook, line & sinker.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2013 - 02:02am PT
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I think what ghost meant to say was; "If you could take your off topic conversation elsewhere and delete those posts it would be much appreciated."
No, Mike, what I meant to say was that jhedge and Donald Thompson are a pair of selfish as#@&%es who have absolutely no regard for anyone other than themselves. You could start a thread about the death of your wife, and the two of them would soon be all over it screaming about which of them was the bigger loser.
Craig Fry (Dr. F) started a thread in which people like that could vent their inadequacies. It might not be a fun place for most of us to visit, but in theory it serves the useful purpose of allowing people like jhedge and Donald Thompson to post on Supertopo without screwing things up for others.
I know you're trying to pour a little oil on troubled waters here, but the time for that is over. Be nice, and they'll just march in and sh#t in your punchbowl. The time has come to tell people like that to take their bullshit outside.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Jan 31, 2013 - 02:23am PT
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Clearly you are correct sir. F*^k off elsewhere boys. Thanks.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Jan 31, 2013 - 04:05am PT
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Doesn't sound like they are against each other but actually on the same team.
Just so u know what Anders is dealing with- This is what trailer parks in Canada are like:
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Jan 31, 2013 - 06:31am PT
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No wonder Anders is taking a STabbatical.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jan 31, 2013 - 06:52am PT
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hey there say, tami..thanks for the note, :)
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Jan 31, 2013 - 06:55am PT
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I've got to say the most f bombs in a row that I ever heard in my life happened at a motel outside Castlegar in BC, where I had to spend the night on the way to my sister's place. My room was unfortunately near a bar frequented by bikers who reved their motors and shouted out creative ways of effing each other until 4 am. This was after my sister had assured me on the phone that Canadians were much kinder and gentler than Americans. The only difference I could tell was that mercifully, they didn't have guns.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jan 31, 2013 - 08:05am PT
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Maybe he joined the BSA....?
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LilaBiene
Trad climber
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Jan 31, 2013 - 09:14am PT
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Since folks seem to bemoan the lack of climbing content around here, I would politely point out that on balance, ANDERS >>>>>>>infinity>>>>>>> the offensive photo thread.
That some of you are behaving worse than kids on a playground, ganging up and piling on whichever individual you've chosen on any particular day makes me wish I'd posted the stories about my birth parents elsewhere.
But here I am. Y'all are stuck with me.
And since you asked...
Anders is one of the most knowledgeable, kindest, funniest, generous and downright decent people I've had the pleasure of meeting. He is unobtrusive, but you'd better believe that he misses nothing and appears when he's needed.
And we do need him here. This forum is a much less soulful, humorous, touching and awesome place without Anders, and the many other folks that have been run off in the short, roughly 10 months since I joined your campfire.
Can no one see the opportunity being wasted here??? How often are you given the chance to stand on even ground with historical personalities, your heroes, past, present and future? Why are people driving them away in DROVES?!
Sigh. I can't believe I got trolled into a rant.
But I WILL sand up for folks I'd be proud to call friends.
Edit:
Bruce, that rant is hilarious and awesome. :D
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bpter
Social climber
Somewhere
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Jan 31, 2013 - 10:36am PT
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Oh how the net has become such a lovely venue of complete mindless bullshet. Sad that it has come to the taco. Appears MH has finally realized such and no longer wishes to partake. Good on him. Great example actually.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Jan 31, 2013 - 10:38am PT
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+1 for Lila ^^^
I for one am grateful that you are here Lila and appreciate your insights. Everything you said about Anders is totally true. I refuse to speculate. I'm sure he'll come back when it suits him.
I stopped posting for about 6 months one time.. not intentionally. At some point a lengthy Facebook discussion occurred with lots of people posting the "reasons" why I "left the site". Absolutely none of the "facts" were true BTW. People were making up drama that didn't even exist. I just had a life and was busy living it and the Taco is not the center of my friggin universe.
That being said... Sheesh.. what the hell is wrong with some of you people? Seriously.. you need to step away from the computers. Go outside. Get laid. Smoke a bowl, go climbing, spend some time with family and friends, whatever floats your boat. Hanging around a website just being jerks is a waste of time.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 31, 2013 - 11:00am PT
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Here we have a lovely display of the interactive cesspool that sent Anders off on the trail with nose and ear plugs.
Why would any sensible person want to be here to slurp this up?
If Cmac comes to the same conclusion, this whole show rolls up and leaves town.
THINK ABOUT IT...before you projectile vomit at the next guy.
jghedge- I think a long hike would really do you some good as a 1% or less climbing content poster.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2013 - 11:25am PT
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To all of you who have chimed in since my rant, I offer my thanks.
I started this thread because I was worried about a friend. Several of Anders' other friends voiced their concern, as did a few people who, if they weren't old friends, had come to know and like Anders through this forum.
To have our concern defecated on by a couple of people who, obviously, couldn't care less about Anders or our feelings, set me off.
I've been posting here for years, and for many more years before that on rec.climbing, and I don't think I've ever gone over the edge like that. But Anders is not the only friend who has been pushed away by the kind of thoughtless behavior that was on display here, and when it happened...
Anyway, I'm thankful that so many of you have both shared your concern for our friend, and your disgust at those who saw that concern as just another platform for their selfishness.
Maybe there's hope. Maybe Anders (and a couple of others) will come back when he sees that there are people here who genuinely miss him. And maybe the people who barged in will see that they should keep their childish quarrels to threads expressly for that purpose.
Cheers all.
David
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 31, 2013 - 11:29am PT
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If it's nothing but insult and vitriol with little entertainment value that you are offering up then you are done on this COMMUNITY MODERATED FORUM.
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Jan 31, 2013 - 11:31am PT
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We just need the good folks to take over and for some of us in the gray like myself to follow their lead. Sadly we might need a monitor, a big brother/parent figure to help us keep this place a little bit nicer. Maybe we need a ST facelift of sort.
AFS
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Jan 31, 2013 - 11:37am PT
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I did get a very short FB message from Anders, but it was not concerning his leave of absence. So - at least it is pretty sure he has not fallen into a crevasse and can't get a cel signal to dial 911.
Anders is a great person -so helpful with Facelift, which is where I have encountered him. He is out there in the real world doing things with good people.
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 31, 2013 - 11:51am PT
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Well .... the hiker dude got a life, finally?
He took this sh!t here way too seriously and lost his marbles.
Donini is smarter.
He just decided to ignore the crap and post to what interests him.
It takes intelligence to maneuver thru internet forums and not try to control all the forces outside of oneself .......
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