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Big Wall climber
Jan 30, 2013 - 10:52am PT
En mi country, this would be called "los ciegos guiando a los retrasados" and is very much LOL.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Jan 30, 2013 - 11:37am PT
You can borrow a lot of tools from Autozone for free, such as fuel pressure gauge, but you have to leave a deposit.

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Jan 30, 2013 - 02:14pm PT
launching off on a long road trip in a 600 dollar van and little money or car know-how is not smart

Sounds to me like this young feller has pretty damn good car know-how. Not many people dropping fuel tanks in strip mall parking lots, ya know.

Jan 30, 2013 - 02:19pm PT
Agree or disagree with the decision process, but for god's sake - why do people think every damned thread from someone who isn't a known entity is a troll or scam?

Ummmmmmmmm? Because it's the interweb. lol

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 30, 2013 - 03:40pm PT
Thank you.
It's good that some climbing got done.

Wow doubble - Delayed post.

I went and helped these two when they were stuck in Calabasas....

I was very impressed with Andrew and his attitude. He knows that some sh#t went wrong but he was using his resources and brains.

He was on Craigs list and had sold some of the extra stuff they had, so he was getting cash not by begging but by selling stuff.

Looks like now they are at the PIT and thats a good thing. He can get in some climbing and get that sucker fixxed.

To all the folks who are calling scam, dumb, stupid, not planned well etc..... I just want to say this.

Were you ever a young climber, roadtripping and had something go wrong????

I have been there before and I learned from my mistakes. I am sure Andrew is learing some things too.

Happy climbing


I'm a Norwegian stuck in Joshua Tree
Jan 30, 2013 - 04:25pm PT
"To be very clear - these two did not ask me to spend one cent of that money outright, and seemed to have forgotten it existed until I reminded them. They then continued to troubleshoot. It was only when they came to the point where dropping tank/replace fuel filter seemed the next thing to try did they meekly ask if I still had the money to help."

So why would they have to ASK for the money that were donated to them?


Trad climber
Jan 30, 2013 - 06:05pm PT
HF - What happened was:
 A person PayPaled me some funds, to use to get gas to go see what I could do for these people. At the time, it seemed like it was the fuel pump, and also that they were paying out an amount for towing which would put a nice dent in money they had earmarked.

I let Andrew and Cheney know that I had this amount made available - and it was in my PayPal account which I have a credit card attached to. I have long since forgotten the debit card PIN for that card, and never bothered to go to PayPal and figure it out, sine I can simply use the card in "credit" mode. To get the funds as cash, I would need to either get on the phone with PayPal and do that, or transfer funds to my bank account, which can take up to 3 days to do.

It seemed easier to me to just say "I can help you to a point, let me know what you need." and pay as needed via the credit card especially since I figured they could use the help in transportation in getting to car parts store and such. I assumed this would all happen that night and the next day, time during which I made myself available at their call. Of course I did work online during this time, and was not sitting there alongside them - I would call or stop over throughout the day, see what they needed, and pay for things as they came up. Andrew trouble-shooted and worked through Saturday, and decided to drop the tank on Sunday.

For what it's worth -the person who sent hat money is aware of all this, and has sent me an email telling me they have no problem with it.

I have also let Andrew know that, now that I have gotten my own cash flow going again, that there is X amount of funds available to help with car repair.

It seems you might live in JT, HF? If so -why not swing by the Pit and introduce yourself, take your own look at the van if you have any suggestions as to what they might look for.

As update -it seems they have ruled out the coil being the problem, after feeling that it was in fact the issue. They are back to looking at the various ground connections, and apparently there are like 30 of them.


I'm a Norwegian stuck in Joshua Tree
Jan 30, 2013 - 06:53pm PT
Thank you for taking the time to explain this.

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 30, 2013 - 07:01pm PT
It is only a matter of time before one of these threads gets picked up as the basis for a reality TV show.


Gold Canyon, AZ
Jan 30, 2013 - 07:15pm PT
...As update -it seems they have ruled out the coil being the problem...

Duh. Too bad they didn't read my post above.


Trad climber
Jan 30, 2013 - 08:12pm PT
They DID Curt...and have been reading the thread.

When I let Andrew know about the "coil suggestion" the guy at parts store mentioned, he frustratingly said "ggggrrrrrrr..."(well,okay,m not exactly that, but you get the idea). I would assume he tested it because 1) It was there and 2) he hadn't yet found the problem


Ice climber
canyon country,CA
Jan 30, 2013 - 08:36pm PT
It's not a troll, I have met them and seen the van. Shocked it made it that far. LOL
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Jan 30, 2013 - 08:43pm PT
Glad they got to do some climbing!

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Jan 31, 2013 - 12:36am PT
After reading this thread It is interesting to see how giving and generous and forgiving Supertopians can be.

Not the same treatment as the climbers that got attacked in Peru at all.
J. Werlin

Social climber
Cedaredge, CO
Feb 2, 2013 - 04:28pm PT
Nice post Coz.

Trad climber
Denver, Colorado
Jul 11, 2013 - 05:41pm PT
Moar fun from these people:

"verticalbound posted with several items for sale, including quickdraws and a mastercam. I paid for the items before leaving for CA, but when I returned, no gear has arrived and the seller is now unresponsive. The account shows "Last Visit: Jan 18, 2013", which is obviously not true as there have been many posts since then - but I'm not sure how the forum tracks visits. "


Jun 5, 2014 - 04:14pm PT
nailed, and jailed, then nailed IN jail ;-)

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jun 5, 2014 - 04:31pm PT
So i ask this to "The Hawk" how do you tie these two to whats going on over on MP???

Looks sort of like the photos, the chick anyway. ( I remember women, better then dudes )

I have a phone # for Andrew......I gave em some money, well filled the Van up FULL when they were stuck at a gas station in my neck of the woods....

let me know

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jun 5, 2014 - 05:09pm PT
THX, I'll contact the dude at MP, give him the phone # I have......

These folks seem nice, but the world is full of flakes.....

maybe no more credit, in the climbing world.


Trad climber
Jun 5, 2014 - 06:52pm PT
I remember reading this thread when it first surfaced. This guy is truly a piece of work. He has stolen from me and I do not take that lightly. The climbing community looks out for one another, not steals from one another. Major bad karma and worse for Andrew.
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