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locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 27, 2013 - 12:30pm PT



"read this instead of jerking off"...


I just read it while I was "jerking off"...


MUCH more enjoyable!!!...
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Jan 27, 2013 - 12:48pm PT
ALL TIME smart ass remark there LOCKER!

locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 27, 2013 - 12:50pm PT


"ALL TIME smart ass remark there LOCKER!"...



I was being SERIOUS...
TwistedCrank

climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
Jan 27, 2013 - 12:50pm PT
nuances of female sexuality


WTF? No one ever mentioned *that* in PE.
part-time communist

Mountain climber
Jan 27, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
careful boys, its that cocky attitude that was and still is one of the main problems in past sex threads and this current thread according to happiegirl
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 27, 2013 - 12:56pm PT


"All the vermin's here"...

Jennie

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Jan 27, 2013 - 01:00pm PT
Exemplary post Happiegirl...one of the most germane I've seen on the web. Thanks for expending the effort in face of a hard-boiled crowd.

The last wheel fell off the boobie wagon days before the "innocent Jill" images were posted. I wouldn't single out IHP as cad when many posted photos with an exploitive implication.

...I have doubts most here will "get it". Most of the assemblage seems to think the complaint is against nudity or exhibiting certain body parts, rather than moral insinuations and social consequences of how genders are portrayed relative to one another in some of these depictions. Art or photography can be obscene without ANY nudity if it glorifies dominion and control over others, slavery, imperious violence, dehumanization, exploitation etc.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Jan 27, 2013 - 01:00pm PT
Regarding the psych links, as they pertain to me(not suggesting anyone is suggesting they do, but in general we human do think subsequent posts on the internet are "about us" as a natural response, even at times when they are not):

To the "unconscious victim" one, I am no victim. I am a warrior.

Regarding what I assume are descriptives on personality disorders: I have been to the shrink, and I have been in women's workshops led by professionals in the field. I'm aware of each of those, and don't fall into the categories. That's not my self-diagnosis, by the way.

But, I am curious - May I ask for clarification from those who posted them as to their reasoning behind suggesting others ought to review that information?
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Jan 27, 2013 - 01:02pm PT
canyoncat

Social climber
SoCal
Jan 27, 2013 - 01:05pm PT
Oh for pity's sake. Is it too much to ask for those who have all these personal issues that have required years of therapy (and made "significant gains") to keep their sorry ass problems to themselves, and stop trying to push them upon women in general? It isn't all about YOU. While we're about it, could men please stop trying to "speak up for" the women who've run off whining and crying, saying they've been intimidated. They should speak for themselves. Oh, I forgot, they're too damn weak.

Women, if you've been intimidated stop running. Stop whining. Stop crying and sniveling. Just deal. Men like boobs. That isn't a bad thing. It is NOT responsible for burqhas. Get real. The problems of the world are not due to naked breasts on display.

In short, harden the f*ck up already.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jan 27, 2013 - 01:05pm PT
There's probably a kernel here, something like "don't get between someone and their pain".
Work it out people!
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 27, 2013 - 01:10pm PT


Mostly AMERICANS of course (Speaking of STUPIDITY)...

part-time communist

Mountain climber
Jan 27, 2013 - 01:12pm PT
Oh for pity's sake. Is it too much to ask for those who have all these personal issues that have required years of therapy (and made "significant gains") to keep their sorry ass problems to themselves, and stop trying to push them upon women in general? It isn't all about YOU. While we're about it, could men please stop trying to "speak up for" the women who've run off whining and crying, saying they've been intimidated. They should speak for themselves. Oh, I forgot, they're too damn weak.

Women, if you've been intimidated stop running. Stop whining. Stop crying and sniveling. Just deal. Men like boobs. That isn't a bad thing. It is NOT responsible for burqhas. Get real. The problems of the world are not due to naked breasts on display.

In short, harden the f*ck up already.


this is exactly the problem. Women being thrown up against the "male standard". The "male standard" is not a male standard, it is treated as THE standard.

locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 27, 2013 - 01:14pm PT


...

locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 27, 2013 - 01:23pm PT


My info was for EVERYONE to read...

No one in particular...

Just pointing out how EASY it can be to PLAY the "Victim" card...



and as the aritcle I posted pointed out...

we ALL do it, at times...


So IF you're trying to MAKE it about YOU...

it will be...

Anastasia

climber
InLOVEwithAris.
Jan 27, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
Canyoncat

Dude, Stop where you are. Your digging yourself into a grave. Don't ever tell a woman over the age of twelve that she is whining, sniveling, etc. EVEN IF SHE IS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO COMMENT... If you do, you will become a target for all the wrongs of the world. You will find yourself in a special hell that only a woman can create. She and all her family and friends will NEVER forgive you.

Ways to deal when a woman who is feeling sensitive.

Rule one... Nod your head.
Rule two... Tell her something positive.
Rule three... Either agree, support or "here's a smart one for you..." SHUT UP.


That's it. Just ask any married man who has lasted ten years or more... This is the only way to survive. (Yes, I am advising you like a sister and I am only going to do this once. After this, you are on your own.)


Locker,

I think she is just sharing a point of view. It's not about her or I, it's about being aware of others and why they might feel threatened. I think it's a valid point even though I personally don't share it.

Plus Locker, you Know I don't play the victim card. Confused, upset, yes. A victim... Nah, I've hurt myself and the only way one can overcome hurt is by taking control over what is the possible. I can't control others, but I sure as heck can control my reaction to them, how I set myself up, live, etc. Life is stranger than fiction, that's for sure.

AFS




happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Jan 27, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
Just deal. Men like boobs. That isn't a bad thing. .....Get real. The problems of the world are not due to naked breasts on display.


In THESE post-Boobs thread threads, the problem has not been about men liking boobs at all! Why do some continue to insist(and you, Canyoncat insist in the above) that is the discussion we are having?

WHY should we shut our mouths because YOU don't like what is coming out of them. Take your OWN advice(not Canyoncat specifically) and "deal." But since your invective does seemed aimed at me:
 I don't have any sorry ass problems. "Sorry" that the image of an 8 year old coming to her 9 year old sister, and asking her to decide the fate of her life is a "sorry ass" problem in your eyes.

It was after some consideration that I decided to create that imagery(which is factual and an understated version, in case one misinterperates the word "imagery". "Sorry" it is offensive to your senses. Take your own advice and - just deal. Women like discussing things instead of ignoring them.

 To say I pushed anything on women in general is bullshit - especially when I made an effort to clarify that point specifically! That viewpoint is your projection - not what is actually going on.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 27, 2013 - 01:33pm PT

This one can be a DOOZY...

Almost impossible to see...(Often easy for others to see... Hard for the person of concern)...




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial

The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Jan 27, 2013 - 01:35pm PT
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Jan 27, 2013 - 01:38pm PT
Oh for pity's sake. Is it too much to ask for those who have all these personal issues that have required years of therapy (and made "significant gains") to keep their sorry ass problems to themselves, and stop trying to push them upon women in general? It isn't all about YOU. While we're about it, could men please stop trying to "speak up for" the women who've run off whining and crying, saying they've been intimidated. They should speak for themselves. Oh, I forgot, they're too damn weak.

Women, if you've been intimidated stop running. Stop whining. Stop crying and sniveling. Just deal. Men like boobs. That isn't a bad thing. It is NOT responsible for burqhas. Get real. The problems of the world are not due to naked breasts on display.

In short, harden the f*ck up already.

Thank you for restoring my faith in women Canyoncat. That took some balls to post up ; )

One of my pet peeves is women who demand to be treated as equals to men when it is to their advantage, but not equally if it isn't.

Women are not equal to men, hence the discord. Women have their unfair built in powers, men have theirs - it might actually balance out overall, somehow. But equal? No way.

Opposites attract. The battle of the sexes rages on.
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