"The giant gaping hole in Sandy Hook reporting"

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healyje

Trad climber

Portland, Oregon

Jan 10, 2013 - 08:57pm PT

She was having him committed and that's likely what tipped him over the edge, but of course, as a frequent range-goer, she was so infatuated with her involvement in the gun culture she obviously couldn't bring herself to secure the weapons in a time of crisis.

fear

Ice climber

hartford, ct

Jan 10, 2013 - 09:00pm PT

We don't know what treatment Adam was receiving. That's been conveniently left to the rumor mill. Relatives say he was being medicated but further investigation simply stops.

Just because she was raising an autistic child does not mean he was a threat from that condition alone. Your falling into the trap the pharma companies love and frankly what makes me a little pissed.

Depressed people are not violent and psychotic. Autistic people are generally not violent nor are they psychotic. There are a thousand very serious mental conditions that do NOT lapse into violent psychosis.

Clearly if you have a violent disturbed child or adult living with you that extra precautions must be taken with not just firearms, but knives, cord, and poison. Even then you're just buying a small amount of extra time if they decide to act. We have no idea what was going on in that house in Newtown.

There are no 'reported' indications Adam was previously violent. There were no indications the Oregon mall shooter had ANY prior incidents... Likewise the Aurora guy had no record and was definitely seeing a psychiatrist for several months. So at least we know for certain he was taking a variety of meds, or perhaps cutoff from them recently, even worse. In some recent story of the Aurora trial a cop said no blood was drawn from Jessie after the shooting since he "didn't seem like he was on anything". That's just great.

These new drugs 'can' cause these things. All I want to see in a serious investigation into it. Billions of dollars say I won't ever see that.

Instead most will just assume crazies are crazies and deal with the aftermath.

Brokedownclimber

Trad climber

Douglas, WY

Jan 10, 2013 - 09:12pm PT

The guidelines used by the FDA in evaluation of INDs (Investigational New Drugs) and progressing through clinical trials seldom involve study of long term possible side effects. It costs roughly $300,000,000 to get a new drug through all the administrative paperwork and the necessary trials now. Some drugs would never make it to market after 6-7 years of trials if these long term studies were mandatory. That's why we seldom hear about the drugs quietly removed from the market after several years of use; long term use reveals problems not discovered in the trials.

I for one, am waiting, forewarned, for that 4+ hour erection from Cialis! ;)

PRRose

climber

Boulder

Jan 10, 2013 - 11:04pm PT

Steve,

WND--the source of your link--is one of the sleaziest, stupidest "news" sites on the web. I wouldn't believe a thing they publish.

JEleazarian

Trad climber

Fresno CA

Jan 11, 2013 - 03:51pm PT

This is difficult to explain but one cause is that it gives people who have suicidal ideation more energy right when the depression hits the strongest.

John M. hits the nail on the head. That's why my (mental) health care professionals monitored me almost daily when I first was diagnosed. When I first went in, I was too depressed to act on any idea, good or bad. Regaining the ability to turn thoughts into action -- something I'd taken for granted for decades -- brings about real dangers that require careful attention.

It sounds like I was very fortunate in a lot of ways from the accounts of other posters on this thread.

John

monolith

climber

albany,ca

Jan 23, 2013 - 08:48pm PT

^^gullible and paranoid^^

dirtbag

climber

Jan 23, 2013 - 08:55pm PT

Source?

dirtbag

climber

Jan 23, 2013 - 09:02pm PT

"Ron Paul Forums" is your source?

I hope you don't wonder why no one takes you seriously.

monolith

climber

albany,ca

Jan 23, 2013 - 09:03pm PT

You've been duped, Ron.

BTW, Adam Lanza was not turned down by a background check. He walked away from the gun store because he did not want to wait the 14 days for the background check.

The media made several misreports in the first few hours. Always happens during chaotic events and is fuel for the conspiracy boyz.

kennyt

climber

Woodfords,California

Jan 23, 2013 - 09:08pm PT

What was the date of the NBC news report? Ron you've got bigger things to worry about than bolted anchors;)

healyje

Trad climber

Portland, Oregon

Jan 23, 2013 - 09:11pm PT

F*CK EVERY one of the baztards involved in this conspiracy and LIE TO AMERICA...

Well, that's complete and utter bullsh#t.

Chaz

Trad climber

greater Boss Angeles area

Jan 23, 2013 - 09:53pm PT

You mean it WASN'T an *assault rifle* ?

Next thing, you'll expect me to believe the Benghazzi attack wasn't because of that cheesey video.

Tobia

Social climber

Denial

Aug 24, 2013 - 08:26pm PT

Mr. Morris;

Winston Churchill referred to his depressive illness as the black dog as opposed to the black beast.

While ADD is associated with dysfunctional families, your statement is incorrect. Many families become dysfunctional because of a child's ADD; but it is not the source of the disorder. ADD is more connected to genetics than anything else.

Your statements about psychotropic drugs and the psychiatrists that prescibe them are also misleading.

fear

Ice climber

hartford, ct

Aug 24, 2013 - 09:54pm PT

Ron, "crisis actor" theories aside, the woman in the Sandy Hook interview has a pretty severe old scar on her right upper lip. The woman from Boston does not.

The criminals in D.C. don't fake tragedy. They own the media outright and can exploit it when things happen. There are plenty of tragedies in a nation this size to use... every day. I have no doubt they have certainly encouraged and perhaps guided such events a bit.

But the notion that "crisis actors" were used and the events never really happened is just plain silly when you look at the scope and complexity of such displays.