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mucci

Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 31, 2012 - 05:10pm PT
Sounds like Pinnacles is on it's way to National Park status.

26,000 acres of pristine terrain.

What will change from the administrative side?

Climbing there has been a mix of solace and adventure at most every turn. This will surely change the way the park offers it's resources to the public.

What say you?



bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Dec 31, 2012 - 05:18pm PT
The thinning of the blood continues apace. RIP, NPS.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Jan 1, 2013 - 09:58am PT
hey there, say, mucci....

wow, thanks for the share...
oh my....

time will tell?
i don't know much about all this stuff...
msiddens

Trad climber
Jan 1, 2013 - 10:26am PT
Hey Mucci-

My $.02 says nothing good. More administration, more rules, more police, more of nothing good.

Hope you had a good NYE party. Did it go off??
Nate D

climber
San Francisco
Jan 1, 2013 - 10:28am PT
Spoke to a NPS volunteer friend briefly and it sounds like tighter restrictions on land use, for one.
Bad Climber

climber
Jan 1, 2013 - 10:36am PT
This will suck. National Park(ing Lots) don't improve anything. Wilderness and/or National Monument status is all that is required. This will merely mean wasted money, bigger budgets, lots o' BS. The NPS wants to increase its power, and adding "parks" is one way to do it.

Is Josh any better for being a national park? Ooooooh, now we get CURBS along all the main roads. WTF?

Bah phreakin' humbug and all that.

BAd
sullly

Trad climber
Jan 1, 2013 - 10:45am PT
I don't know Mucci. A thread not celebrating narcissism or body parts? Too bold for me, brother.
YosemiteSteve

Trad climber
CA
Jan 1, 2013 - 10:51am PT
The biggest change will most likely be more visitors. On the admin side, very little will change, since all the same rules will be in place.

Keep in mind this bill does nothing more than change the name of the park and the name of the wilderness area. It doesn't come with any more money, or any new rules.

Personally, I love Pinnacles, but I think National Monument status was quite sufficient. There have been a handful of other new National Parks in the past few years (Congaree Swamp, C and O Canal) that really don't seem to fit in the same category as Yosemite, Yellowstone or the Grand Canyon.
YosemiteSteve

Trad climber
CA
Jan 1, 2013 - 10:55am PT
Bad Climber said

The NPS wants to increase its power, and adding "parks" is one way to do it.

The NPS didn't ask for this. It was a House Rep from Santa Cruz who championed this cause. As someone who just spent a year shooting a film for the new Visitor Center on the West Side, I'm actually a little bummed, cuz now we have to change the film to reflect this status change.

My sense is that nearly EVERYONE who works at Pinnacles would rather things stay as they were, and I suspect that folks back in Washington probably feel the same.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Jan 1, 2013 - 02:04pm PT

That'd be nice, as would Colorado National Monument (Park). . .
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jan 1, 2013 - 03:17pm PT
too bad it is not closer to the bay area. would be a great dry tooling spot.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Jan 1, 2013 - 03:28pm PT
Something new on the news front on this?

Link?


The posted Sam Farr link describes 'representing the diversity' of the acreage. But it aside from the secretaries ability to land grab inholdings, I don't see specifics on how changing from Mon to Park actually benefits anyone.

If specific benefits can be layed out, then maybe. But the onus is on the proposers of the bill.

Tork

climber
Yosemite
Jan 1, 2013 - 03:33pm PT
This thread is worthless without boob pics.
mucci

Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2013 - 03:34pm PT
http://www.redding.com/news/2013/jan/01/pinnacles-national-park-designation-passes-senate/

http://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Pinnacles-a-step-from-being-national-park-4159050.php
YosemiteSteve

Trad climber
CA
Jan 1, 2013 - 03:35pm PT
http://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Pinnacles-a-step-from-being-national-park-4159050.php
mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Jan 1, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
Mucci's links say that, as of Sunday, December 30, 2012 a bill making it a national PARK has passed and is waiting for the President's signature.

Sounds like it's a done deal.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 1, 2013 - 05:08pm PT
The Pinnacles are part of the Fiscal Cliff deal? Too bad.
Dirka

Trad climber
SF
Jan 1, 2013 - 05:09pm PT
One of my favorite places on earth. Hope it doesn't change a bit.
msiddens

Trad climber
Jan 1, 2013 - 06:16pm PT
Agree with Dirka- and of course Tork too
dee ee

Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
Jan 1, 2013 - 06:35pm PT
National Park status always means more crowds and more rules and regs.
I don't think it's a good thing.

Yosemite Steve,
".. Keep in mind this bill does nothing more than change the name of the park and the name of the wilderness area. It doesn't come with any more money, or any new rules".

yur wrong. We saw it happen to Josh.
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