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Ken M
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Los Angeles, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 4, 2015 - 07:07pm PT
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So, another way of looking at this, is by assessing outcomes for the last 30 years.
In the past three decades, the United States has made across-the-board progress in improving the rates of mortality among children (from birth to age 19). For example, the child and teen mortality rate has improved by 43%, dropping from 46 deaths per 100,000 children and teens in 1990 to 26 per 100,000 (representing 10,800 fewer deaths) in 2011.
http://www.aecf.org/blog/mortality-rates-for-children-improved-across-the-board/?gclid=Cj0KEQjw7r-rBRDE_dXtgLz9-e4BEiQATeKG7GgSS2VXZiWMfentFQXuOcQTO5WUIZfMYvq9radZjAcaAg9i8P8HAQ
The highest rate of vaccination completion is in the state of Penn. And yet, it's infant mortality rate is about the same as Florida, which has an average vaccination rate. What does this mean? It means the rate of deaths that could be due to vaccines is below the threshold of measurement.
http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/Bar/6051-infant-mortality?loc=1&loct=2#2/2,11,23,40/false/867/any/12719
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/imz-managers/coverage/nis/child/tables/13/tab03_antigen_state_2013.pdf
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 4, 2015 - 07:17pm PT
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here is a real national disgrace:
If you move to Finland or Sweden to have a pregnancy, you cut the risk of infant mortality by TWO THIRDS! (First graph)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr63/nvsr63_05.pdf
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Degaine
climber
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Reilly wrote:
Only in America can one be considered a caring parent if you don't spank yer kid yet you
refuse them a smallpox or polio vaccine. Do we have lead water pipes?
Well, I don't spank my kids, and I've made sure my kids have had all of their vaccinations.
In your cynical-sarcastic-disgusted tone, you're not actually trying to insinuate that to be a good parent I need to hit my kids, are you?
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Degaine
climber
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Reilly wrote:
Why do all you card-carrying Robespierre Chowder and Marching Society members
think that everybody that works for a corporation is the devil incarnate?
I know a couple of high ranking execs in a major pharma company and, trust
me, they're humans. They aren't against making their company some money but
they're certainly not gonna do it while marching over dead bodies, like you
lot would to prove your inanely over-simplified points.
If the FDA or EFSA do their jobs and pharma companies respect the law, then there a good balance can be struck. In most European countries it is illegal to advertise a prescription drug on TV or in mass media. This is to avoid uneducated patients trying to bully their doctors into prescribing drugs that they don't need.
I think that vaccines and other drugs and medications have done wonders for world health. But don't kid yourself, while your buddies may be human, big pharma is in it for the money. Hell, most big pharma companies nowadays hardly do any research, their the medical industry's equivalent of the big investment banks, buying and selling brands to develop a portfolio that will make them money. The heavy lifting in research is done by startup biotech firms that then hope to be acquired if the efficacy of their drug turns out as planned. And big pharma prefers manageable diseases hands down, like diabetes and AIDS, to curing diseases.
Again, I won't demonize pharma, but the industry is not the saintly other as you would imply.
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dirtbag
climber
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Immunizations, what has REALLY happened? Seems they don't want you to know about allot of them.
On no...it's the THEY.
THEY say: "Boo!"
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