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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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Legalize it don't critizize it LEGALIZE IT YEAH YEAH don't advertize it
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burntheman
Trad climber
slt
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i feel bad for all the people who preach how natural pot is. so many 'nutrients' poured into those plants whether indoor or out.
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Crazy Bat
Sport climber
Birmingham, AL & Seweanee, TN
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Good point Dingus. I couldnt find info on where the animals were collected. Just a statement that the focused on animals found near known grows. The other sites you mention make one think.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Growing pot indoors in CA makes no sense whatsoever given the amount of sun available.
That's great if the DA in your neighborhood doesn't care. Ours does. Fresno's does.
The DA here told a grower friend straight up, if you grow indoors we have no beef, it's your home and we have far more to do than kicking in YOUR door.
The primary concern here is that pot-stealing is easier if the grow is outdoors and this leads to gunplay.
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2011/may/16/fresno-man-sentenced-in-fatal-pot-garden-shooting/
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cuvvy
Sport climber
arkansas
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Too bad people can't live without their drugs. Life is beautiful without blurring reality.
A lot of unhappy people out there, so I guess it is understandable though.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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I find it funny, that op complains about pot grows - then shows what look like house hold waste.
The same stuff I see dump all over the country. Someones left behinds, their house hold junk.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 3, 2013 - 05:21pm PT
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Frumy, that 'household' waste is indeed 'household' waste - from the pot growers
'households' in our national forests.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Pesticides and poisons commonly used by illegal marijuana growers in the Sierra Nevada are found in dead fishers, a study says.
last time i purchased dope from the candy store the ash was grey, so they were not using chemicals!!!
also, the dope i grow is organic bro!
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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So the pot growers had a teddy bear.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 14, 2013 - 11:14am PT
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Yesterday's newspaper, Reilly.
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dirtbag
climber
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Aug 14, 2013 - 12:48pm PT
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Legalize it and these kinds of problems would disappear.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 14, 2013 - 01:04pm PT
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db, you mean the Mexican Mafia would just pack up and disappear or they
would go legal? I strongly doubt that they would do either when their
business model is predicated upon free land, free labor, and no taxes.
And during the many years before legalization occurs should we just stand
by and let them rape our forests and wildlife? Not to mention make it
very dangerous to go near 'their' plantations. And I lump the white trash
pot growers who are doing the same thing in with the Mexican Mafia.
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dirtbag
climber
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Aug 14, 2013 - 01:11pm PT
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Why would anyone buy from the Mexican mafia when they could obtain it more easily legally? If no one is buying it from them, the mafia will mostly go away. You'll always have some degree of criminal element involved somewhere, but it would become much rarer.
And btw, many pot buyers--unless they are certain where the pot they are purchasing is grown, or grow it themselves-- are complicit in creating this mess.
Edit: and Reilly I am the LAST person who would give those fookers a
Pass. I've worked with Leo who have to tiptoe into those areas to arrest the perps and clean up the messes. Nail their asses!!!
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Aug 14, 2013 - 07:55pm PT
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Maybe the Mafia will be the easiest way to score. Maybe they'll home deliver when weed's legal. They deliver today. Maybe they'll let you skate on the tax, and pass the savings along to the customer, just like they do today. Maybe they'll not worry about checking ID, like they do today.
The black market is all about customer satisfaction, and they won't all of a sudden just go find honest work if what they do is legal, because they're in the business of finding a way around regulations. Just like they do today.
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dirtbag
climber
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Aug 14, 2013 - 08:13pm PT
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Maybe the Mafia will be the easiest way to score.
Easier than buying it in a shop? Or growing it at home? I think most users would love to obtain it in a way that wouldn't land them in the can.
Maybe they'll home deliver when weed's legal. They deliver today. .
I really doubt having home delivery would be a major selling point.
Maybe they'll let you skate on the tax, and pass the savings along to the customer, just like they do today.
What savings? Pot ain't cheap-or legal. Legalize it and the price should come down.
I have no idea what savings you are talking about.
Maybe they'll not worry about checking ID, like they do today.
Yep, underage kids would continue to buy pot.
And yep, there would continue to be a black market, though I'd argue, it would be greatly diminished. Alcohol used to be illegal, and while there is still a black market for liquor, illegal sales were dramatically reduced when prohibition ended.
But what do you propose doing about it? Right now, keeping it illegal isn't working very well.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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Aug 14, 2013 - 08:15pm PT
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Do Mexican cartels have anything to do with with pot grown in Northern California? Seems unlikely on any real scale. In any case there is no mafia run black market for alcohol after prohibition ended so I don't see why pot would be any different. It's a freaking plant.
I don't smoke pot and wouldn't even if it were legal so I don't care that much, but having it be illegal seems profoundly stupid to me.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Aug 14, 2013 - 08:17pm PT
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"What savings? Pot ain't cheap-or legal. Legalize it and the price should come down."
Have you checked the prices of "legal" weed, in places where it's legal? $5,000/lb isn't uncommon. A "dime bag" is only ONE gram! That's at least twice the black market rate.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 14, 2013 - 08:19pm PT
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Chaz is right. The last thing La Eme and the rest of those f*#ks want is legalization. There is always far more money to be made selling proscribed goods or services, and that will always be the case, but this is just my own opinion.
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