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thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Dec 1, 2017 - 09:36pm PT
Credit: thebravecowboy
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 1, 2017 - 09:39pm PT
Jim, 14 is practically an old maid down yonder.
--B Bermingham aka "Li'l Rock"
mastadon

Trad climber
crack addict
Dec 1, 2017 - 09:47pm PT
You can buy just about anything in Nevada,,,



BTW-if anyone ever points an automatic weapon at you, do whatever they say. I absolutely shredded the target at the far end of the range.
Bargainhunter

climber
Dec 2, 2017 - 12:18am PT
Just an unsolicited PSA here:

Please secure your firearms in a responsible manner, e.g. in a gun safe bolted to floor and wall studs (or transport it in a heavy duty lockbox that's thru bolted in your car) so that children and petty thieves don't discover it and commit more avoidable tragedies. I'd love to see some gun reform laws where guns are treated as privileges instead of birthrights, and can only be owned with requisite and demonstrated ability to safeguard them from the irresponsible.

Kate Steinle (whom Trump is currently using to promote his anti-immigrant agenda and racist anti-Latino views) was killed because a federal officer left his gun unsecured on the floor of his car in SF (a city notorious for rampant car break ins) while he ate dinner. The gun was stolen because he didn't lock it in a gunsafe secured to his vehicle. Gun ownership is an extremely serious responsibility. If you fail to secure your weapon, I feel you should be prosecuted for any crime that takes place when it's stolen. This irresponsible BLM officer should be tried for manslaughter. I'd love to see some new gun laws (and high profile prosecutions) that reinforce this concept.

Want to know how the severely mentally-ill Adam Lanza got his guns? From Mom's gun safe. She gave him the combo, and was his first victim. Then he went to Sandy Hook Elementary School. Enough.

(FYI I'm a long time gun owner, hunter, and recreational shooter.)
c wilmot

climber
Dec 2, 2017 - 06:37am PT
Thankfully the man who shot Kate Steinlee to death will be released back into the streets of SF soon as mandated under their sanctuary city laws

Remember- it's best to blame the victim whose gun was stolen rather than the career criminal living in the US illegally who stole it and then used it to commit a homicide

Keep it real SF
xCon

Social climber
909
Dec 2, 2017 - 06:41am PT
you forgot to stomp a kitten while you were at it...
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Dec 2, 2017 - 08:45am PT
I love the bit about prosecuting the cop who locked his firearm in his car because it wasn't locked enough... classic...

Evil finds a way. Most any mobile gunvault type boxes are cheap steel easily defeated with a large screwdriver. While it might be a good idea it won't stop a determined scumbag and hardly rises to actual criminal negligence.

The fault lies with who stole that firearm and who pulled the trigger. Stop blaming victims of that evil.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Dec 2, 2017 - 08:48am PT
you do understand that the weapon was pointed at the ground when the shot that killed Ms. Steinle was fired, right wilmot? undisputed fact.


and yeah, fear, guns, like alcohol are ubiquitous, accessible and available to youth and mentally disturbed alike. what of it?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 2, 2017 - 09:57am PT
Cowpoke, why does it matter where the gun was pointed?
It was fired and a young woman died. I guess that was too
tough for a San Fran jury.

#resultsmatter
c wilmot

climber
Dec 2, 2017 - 10:04am PT
Undisputed?

By his own account he claimed he was aiming at seals, then he said he stepped on the gun and it went off, then it was the gun went off on its own, then it was the gun went off when he accidentally grabbed it...

The only undisputable fact is that mr zarate fired the shot that killed Ms Steinle. Along with the fact he threw the gun into the ocean and ran away.
xCon

Social climber
909
Dec 2, 2017 - 10:05am PT
results matter?!?

like how the outcome in lraq and Libya and Vietnam and korea not to mention here at home for the indian or the slaves is considered when our culpability is considered?

intention plays a great deal in respect to the law as the over prosecution of minor infractions and the under prosecutions of major audacities clearly illustrates...


Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 2, 2017 - 10:09am PT
^^^ Thread drift much?

#gerbilfocus

But I’d love to talk about ROE’s and BDA!
xCon

Social climber
909
Dec 2, 2017 - 10:13am PT
you used the phrase "results matter"

doesn't your selective implementation or warrant concideration?
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Dec 2, 2017 - 10:13am PT
the prosecutor's expert witness points out that the slug removed from Ms. Steinle was flattened. there was a divot in the concrete that matched a plausible clear line of travel by ricochet.

for a person so afraid of the guvmint wilmot you sure seem to lack empathy for the man under the hot bulb with cops prodding left and right to get you to say something, to say anything. too bad no one told him to STFU when the pigs show up.

If picking up a gun and irresponsibly playing with it is the crime here, then lock me up. (sure, sure, he was in a place where to do so was inappropriate, etc.): I'd call it manslaughter.



v as you have pointed out, wilmot, his story has changed repeatedly. almost like he constructed (probably under intense scrutiny) various versions to try and please the Pigs/save his ass.
c wilmot

climber
Dec 2, 2017 - 10:15am PT
Was he playing with the gun after he was shooting at seals?

His account differs from your version of events
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Dec 2, 2017 - 10:19am PT
so: Manslaughter, I say.

You think Murder 1, wilmot?
xCon

Social climber
909
Dec 2, 2017 - 10:42am PT
any charge must be 'defined' for the jury during its instruction in order for it to be tasked at reaching a verdict,

how was manslaughter defined for the jury in this case?

aside from the charge actually being 'involuntary manslaughter"...
zardoz

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, CO
Dec 2, 2017 - 05:45pm PT
If you're not really a "gun guy" I would go with a 38 special revolver. Any brand will be fine. Get about a four to six inch barrel and a grip that is comfy.

Pros: Will do the job and pleasant to shoot. Not too pricey. Extremely simple, so no cycling of the slide to load. No jamming and you can just pull trigger through missfires. You can pistol-whip people with it with confidence. Easy to check to see if loaded. Does not require a magazine.

Cons: shoots six rounds, so hit something quickly. Not fast to reload. People will think you are not a serious gun person if you don't have some sort of semi-auto. You might be mistaken for an old cop.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Dec 2, 2017 - 05:48pm PT
I like the pistol whip feature....Saves on buying ammo...
xCon

Social climber
909
Dec 2, 2017 - 07:39pm PT
if your really concerned about being safe in your home your money would be far better spent on several of these...

Credit: xCon

with what you save you could afford some counseling to address the irrational fears your manifesting...
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