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Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2013 - 06:17pm PT
Don't forget incarnate Tibetan Lama

Wade Icey

Trad climber
Sep 11, 2013 - 07:08pm PT

Social climber
Sep 11, 2013 - 07:45pm PT
“How about something I can also get through courthouse and TSA security, you know, in case someone tries to rob me (or worse!) in the mens room?”

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Use one of these: Two ends for different puncture points as in nerve damage and flesh thrashing and if for some reason you feel that might not work on the guy coming towards you [as in big or large] then unscrew the end and stick the open ended pen into his heart or body organ providing you have already assess the first thought that you might be in trouble.

I would at least say “Hi, how are you today” making eye to eye contact that will give you enough time.

Now that you stabbed him with the pen and he is dying, you are now safe until you hear someone is yelling out “where is the judge?” and then you hear some say” he’s in the bath room” good luck.

Had jury duty: Here or in our town, we our short on space so there are two buildings [1] Jury courthouse conference room [2] then the Court house where the actual trial and sentencing is.

Bailiff [not old but young as in sheriff unit] went through the entire do’s and not to do’s. Of course no weapons of any kind, knives especially. Hmmm? I wait till things to mellow out since I am caring one of these, I discreetly go over his way and made sure that the rest of the jury selection could not see what I had in my hand and told him I could take it back to my car which had the sticker for that day as in you would not get a ticket.

Told and showed him of nerve points and trashing techniques to the back of my hands where and what points to hit next to the small bones when grabbed, then said but did not point to the areas one could use towards the head and neck areas to disable a person, and then opened the pen end said you could puncture into an organ part of one’s body.

He picked it up, looked at it, gave it back and said “let’s call it a pen”. Went through second building where security panels as beep, beep, old lady has no clue, sheriff looks at her and nods Ok.

No picky on this one. Rape case where the defendant was black; they picked all women for the exception of two men. Guy was found not guilty.

As for TSA security do not explain the above just say it is a pen they will not figure it out.

Where do you get them and things that might interest you in your journey, I see Chris has a sponsor or vender on the ST site: DVOR or go the their site: Discounted with DVOR


Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Sep 11, 2013 - 08:02pm PT
Russ you need to reconsider that Russki full auto rig. The Chief is onto something. Nothing makes a tweaker's blood run cold faster than the sound of a 12GA pump gun racking a round.

Of course there are some pretty mean pump guns out there...

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Social climber
Sep 11, 2013 - 08:23pm PT

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Hell buy Chinese they are cheaper. Wonder if they work guess you would have to find out and say shoot at me?

I have seen their riot guns and would not like to be behind one.

Edit: no booze yet in front of one rather than behind but have been or used a few other ones not their shot guns.

Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
Sep 11, 2013 - 10:01pm PT
This all you need... I need more than this, but for you, this will work:

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Fish Finder

Social climber
Jul 16, 2014 - 08:23pm PT
Hows the fort holding up

you could always beat the snot out of them with a big pry bar while wearing overalls !!!!!!


Fossil climber

Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
Dec 1, 2017 - 08:01pm PT
AR15 under the Christmas tree? Probably pretty common in Alabama.They are very forgiving. Heard a lady say, "Well, Jesus said we should forgive, so I forgive Mr. Moore and will vote for him." I'd like to ask, "Would you still forgive him if he was a Democrat?"

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 1, 2017 - 09:09pm PT
Would she forgive him if the 14 year old girl was her daughter? Phew...have you ever heard anyone admit they were from Alabama?

The Good Places
Dec 1, 2017 - 09:36pm PT
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mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 1, 2017 - 09:39pm PT
Jim, 14 is practically an old maid down yonder.
--B Bermingham aka "Li'l Rock"

Trad climber
crack addict
Dec 1, 2017 - 09:47pm PT
You can buy just about anything in Nevada,,,

BTW-if anyone ever points an automatic weapon at you, do whatever they say. I absolutely shredded the target at the far end of the range.

Dec 2, 2017 - 12:18am PT
Just an unsolicited PSA here:

Please secure your firearms in a responsible manner, e.g. in a gun safe bolted to floor and wall studs (or transport it in a heavy duty lockbox that's thru bolted in your car) so that children and petty thieves don't discover it and commit more avoidable tragedies. I'd love to see some gun reform laws where guns are treated as privileges instead of birthrights, and can only be owned with requisite and demonstrated ability to safeguard them from the irresponsible.

Kate Steinle (whom Trump is currently using to promote his anti-immigrant agenda and racist anti-Latino views) was killed because a federal officer left his gun unsecured on the floor of his car in SF (a city notorious for rampant car break ins) while he ate dinner. The gun was stolen because he didn't lock it in a gunsafe secured to his vehicle. Gun ownership is an extremely serious responsibility. If you fail to secure your weapon, I feel you should be prosecuted for any crime that takes place when it's stolen. This irresponsible BLM officer should be tried for manslaughter. I'd love to see some new gun laws (and high profile prosecutions) that reinforce this concept.

Want to know how the severely mentally-ill Adam Lanza got his guns? From Mom's gun safe. She gave him the combo, and was his first victim. Then he went to Sandy Hook Elementary School. Enough.

(FYI I'm a long time gun owner, hunter, and recreational shooter.)
c wilmot

Dec 2, 2017 - 06:37am PT
Thankfully the man who shot Kate Steinlee to death will be released back into the streets of SF soon as mandated under their sanctuary city laws

Remember- it's best to blame the victim whose gun was stolen rather than the career criminal living in the US illegally who stole it and then used it to commit a homicide

Keep it real SF

Social climber
Dec 2, 2017 - 06:41am PT
you forgot to stomp a kitten while you were at it...

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Dec 2, 2017 - 08:45am PT
I love the bit about prosecuting the cop who locked his firearm in his car because it wasn't locked enough... classic...

Evil finds a way. Most any mobile gunvault type boxes are cheap steel easily defeated with a large screwdriver. While it might be a good idea it won't stop a determined scumbag and hardly rises to actual criminal negligence.

The fault lies with who stole that firearm and who pulled the trigger. Stop blaming victims of that evil.

The Good Places
Dec 2, 2017 - 08:48am PT
you do understand that the weapon was pointed at the ground when the shot that killed Ms. Steinle was fired, right wilmot? undisputed fact.

and yeah, fear, guns, like alcohol are ubiquitous, accessible and available to youth and mentally disturbed alike. what of it?

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 2, 2017 - 09:57am PT
Cowpoke, why does it matter where the gun was pointed?
It was fired and a young woman died. I guess that was too
tough for a San Fran jury.

c wilmot

Dec 2, 2017 - 10:04am PT

By his own account he claimed he was aiming at seals, then he said he stepped on the gun and it went off, then it was the gun went off on its own, then it was the gun went off when he accidentally grabbed it...

The only undisputable fact is that mr zarate fired the shot that killed Ms Steinle. Along with the fact he threw the gun into the ocean and ran away.

Social climber
Dec 2, 2017 - 10:05am PT
results matter?!?

like how the outcome in lraq and Libya and Vietnam and korea not to mention here at home for the indian or the slaves is considered when our culpability is considered?

intention plays a great deal in respect to the law as the over prosecution of minor infractions and the under prosecutions of major audacities clearly illustrates...

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