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Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 29, 2012 - 08:06pm PT
As a rule it is easier to count the ones that aren't.
Jim Clipper

from: forests to tree farms
Dec 29, 2012 - 08:08pm PT

За женщин!

Dec 29, 2012 - 08:44pm PT
The 2'nd Russian I can't see yet, the first would die hunting
Grizzly with those. Here in the US street sweepers were/are
used around ammo dumps. Don't confuse a machine gun with a
fully auto and don't believe any military persons about them.
Anybody here ever shot anything fully auto at 223 or above caliber
in their open hands? I have and they are no good for anything.


Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 29, 2012 - 08:54pm PT
Dr F,

It's tough to tell how big that gun in your picture is without someone standing next to it, for scale.


Dec 29, 2012 - 08:59pm PT
Any lawyer in here please advise if fully auto guns are
legal for anybody in the US including military? If so
what make and model and please specify why private
militias or otherwise can't buy fully auto AR 15's
or M16's?
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Dec 29, 2012 - 11:03pm PT
This S&W 460XVR may meet all your home defense needs:

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The price isn't bad either: $1,617.oo and since it's a single action/double action 5-round revolver, is fully legal to own. Hit any human anywhere in the body with one of those slugs and blood pressure goes right down to zero. No near misses.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 29, 2012 - 11:36pm PT

Jebus H Bomz

Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 29, 2012 - 11:47pm PT
BOOM! Hahahahaha...

from out where the anecdotes roam
Dec 30, 2012 - 12:52am PT
under pressure, home depot quit selling these

Credit: hooblie

but nice price on trash cans
the Fet

Dec 30, 2012 - 01:20am PT
If you really want to keep them away hang some of these in your window.

As a bonus people at airport security will be too freaked out to say anything if they're in your luggage.

I guess the risk is that it WILL be an invitation to some.

Edit: uh-oh did I just have a locker blue dildo moment?

Edit 2: I just realized the heeldo may be an excellent finger/fist offwidth crack climbing tool. Think how stylish you'd be wearing two and Da Brim!

Gym climber
Dec 30, 2012 - 04:12am PT
Any lawyer in here please advise if fully auto guns are
legal for anybody in the US including military? If so
what make and model and please specify why private
militias or otherwise can't buy fully auto AR 15's
or M16's?

you need a Federal Firearms License or as we call it an "FFL"

The Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 addressed the abuses noted in the 1982 Senate Judiciary Subcommittee report. Among the reforms intended to loosen restrictions on gun ownership were the reopening of interstate sales of long guns on a limited basis, legalization of ammunition shipments through the U.S. Postal Service (a partial repeal of the Gun Control Act), removal of the requirement for record keeping on sales of non-armor-piercing ammunition, and federal protection of transportation of firearms through states where possession of those firearms would otherwise be illegal. However, the Act also contained a provision that banned the sale of machine guns manufactured after the date of enactment to civilians, restricting sales of these weapons to the military and law enforcement. Thus, in the ensuing years, the limited supply of these arms available to civilians has caused an enormous increase in their price, with most costing in excess of $10,000.

The Granite State.
Dec 30, 2012 - 09:37am PT
I know a couple of people with full autos. I've been told its a six month federal permitting process.

I want one of those AA-12's. But then, it'd just be another expensive toy that I don't really need.

Dec 30, 2012 - 11:22am PT
A 7.62 X 39 to me has no noticeable recoil difference
above a 223. At fully auto probably at least 10 per second the gas
buildup with other factors causes uncontrollable spreads prior to
a empty 30 round clip and recoil prior to the empty clip becomes
very noticeable.


Dec 30, 2012 - 04:03pm PT
Around 1990 I traded for or purchased a 9mm at a gun
show in Costa Mesa CA. The (*15 day wait) was in effect then.
I lawfully took the gun home much sooner and .CA didn't
have the intrusive training provisions for hand guns then.
Next door in Arizona with or without a gun show hand guns
including the machine gun as the one above could be lawfully
taken home the same day and they have no 15 day wait period.

*15 days may now be 16 due to a change in the civil laws
providing for mail times. Each county in the US is to have
a IRS office with a secretary for the machine gun tax and
registration the last I read around 2009. Im going to read
the cases about fully auto but it may take a week or 2.
I don't trust licenses if not provided for by code.

Dec 30, 2012 - 04:51pm PT
We haven't heard from Russ in a while.
I hope one of those tweakers didn't get him.

Gym climber
Dec 30, 2012 - 04:54pm PT
holy sh#t a CT climber, nice to meet ya'

russ needs a .357 and a pitbull to keep the tweakers off..

Northern Mexico
Dec 30, 2012 - 05:35pm PT
one that shoots 10$ meth bags?

Dec 30, 2012 - 05:40pm PT
LOL, Jim! What artillery.

Looking forward to meeting you in BC next season.
bit'er ol' guy

the past
Dec 30, 2012 - 09:49pm PT


You need an assult wepon to deal with a meth head?


Seems like any self respecting climber could take down a skinny sleep deprived loser in a little old fashioned hand to hand combat.

But if near death zombies scare you that much.... know what your made of.

Mountain climber
Sep 11, 2013 - 08:39am PT
Didn't read the whole thread so if already suggested, please accept my apology:

An XD9 and/or Mossberg 500.
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