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survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:39am PT
22 children injured in Chinese knife attack at elementary school.....

How many mass knife attacks have there been in China in the last twenty years? In a country with a BILLION more people than we have.

Don't give me this bullshit that guns don't have anything to do with it.

Why aren't these guys doing their deeds with paper airplanes 'n' sh#t?
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:39am PT


Born 1955 here...

I am talking MID 60's on...

Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:39am PT
Until '68, you could buy guns through THE MAIL, Norton. No questions asked.


really?

you could buy full military assault weapons 40 years ago

anyone? no background checks?

the military allowed that back then?

ok, if you say so
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:40am PT

INTERSTING and good question!!!...

"There were so many shootings in the USA that there should be enough data to find the common factor. Does anybody know the outcome of such study?"...
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2012 - 10:40am PT
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1883519/The-Gun-debate-sandbox
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:41am PT
Heard on the early morning news about a mass knife attack, with twenty or so victims by a deranged guy at an elementary school in China that happened yesterday.

Wonder if one event inspired the other.
mitchy

Trad climber
new england
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:41am PT
Who gives sh#t what you could do 40 yrs. ago. 18 kids were killed TODAY.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:42am PT
My theory? 24 hour news cycle, sensational coverage. The copycat theory is significant. These are people who might have just killed themselves, but now they get motivated to go out with a bang.

If there were more broken families crime would be up across the board. Like I said, crime is way down. These killers do not come from horrific family back grounds.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:42am PT
It looks like our country turns out its own share of psychopath terrorists.


You mean worse than Benghazi? *gasp*

Better stay on top of this one Ron, lots of dead innocent Americans.
Batrock

Trad climber
Burbank
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:42am PT
Tragic, no easy answers. Mexico has a very restrictive gun law yet it's no secret how that is working out. Something has to be done I the family front and the mental health care front. I am in agreement with some of the previous posts concerning broken families and the effect it has on our society. I wish people would put as much effort into their family relationships as they do arguing over petty $hit on the interweb.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:43am PT
why are things becoming more violent here?

They probably were asking the same thing as the great depression took hold.

The rat experiments back in science class seem to relate to what we are seeing now. To many rats, not enough food so they turn on each other. I dont know really.

Ive been raised with guns, have used them all my life. Never have i even vaguely considered open random murder.

locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:43am PT


"Who gives sh#t what you could do 40 yrs. ago."...

The past leads to the future...

It's ALL tied together...
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:43am PT
A culture of violence.
We train and desensitize our children from a very young age.

Horrible horrible, disgusting.
t*r

Mountain climber
where the wild things are
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:44am PT
horrible. my heart is breaking for the parents and especially all of the mothers getting this news. i cannot, cannot imagine.

try to remember news coverage isn't healthy for us or our children - it can be traumatizing for them, so turn it off if you've got kids around.

locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:45am PT


"and especially all of the mothers getting this news"...

THREAD DRIFT to say...

BULLSH!T on THAT one!!!...

You're implying that Mothers love their children more than fathers...

Simply NOT true!!!...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:45am PT
Sure - let your kids get introduced to violence by video games instead of ugly reality,, that makes sense...
t*r

Mountain climber
where the wild things are
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:47am PT
no, not at all, it's just that i'm relating more to the mothers/other women... i can't imagine bearing a child and having this happen.
Anastasia

climber
InLOVEwithAris.
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:48am PT
All I can say is there is a difference on how we allow bad behavior in this generation than others. Before if a kid hurts your daughter, it was perfectly alright for the father and brothers to make amends. Now... Nothing is really done. If a kid attacks another kid, it isn't a real crime since heck... They are kids. Kids get bullied and grow up into broken individuals and bullies grow up into some real evil folks since no one ever checked their behavior.

I can be wrong about this but.... From my life experience this is what I saw. I grew up with a socialpath. He is now living in jail for the rape and murder of a young girl. Before that he terrorized and did really horrible things in school and since he was nice looking with good grades... No one ever stopped him until he got bigger. In my mind, he needed some big consequences. The bigger the better.

survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:49am PT
You mean worse than Benghazi? *gasp*

Better stay on top of this one Ron, lots of dead innocent Americans.

That was too good to not repost. And predictably Ron, you say there's no connection to guns.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:50am PT


"no, not at all, it's just that i'm relating more to the mothers/other women"...

Maybe TRY relating to PARENTS minus the gender issue???...

;-)



Regardless, this is a HUGE tragedy for ALL concerned!!!...

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