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locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:40pm PT

INTERSTING and good question!!!...

"There were so many shootings in the USA that there should be enough data to find the common factor. Does anybody know the outcome of such study?"...
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2012 - 01:40pm PT
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1883519/The-Gun-debate-sandbox
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:41pm PT
Heard on the early morning news about a mass knife attack, with twenty or so victims by a deranged guy at an elementary school in China that happened yesterday.

Wonder if one event inspired the other.
mitchy

Trad climber
new england
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:41pm PT
Who gives sh#t what you could do 40 yrs. ago. 18 kids were killed TODAY.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:42pm PT
My theory? 24 hour news cycle, sensational coverage. The copycat theory is significant. These are people who might have just killed themselves, but now they get motivated to go out with a bang.

If there were more broken families crime would be up across the board. Like I said, crime is way down. These killers do not come from horrific family back grounds.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:42pm PT
It looks like our country turns out its own share of psychopath terrorists.


You mean worse than Benghazi? *gasp*

Better stay on top of this one Ron, lots of dead innocent Americans.
Batrock

Trad climber
Burbank
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:42pm PT
Tragic, no easy answers. Mexico has a very restrictive gun law yet it's no secret how that is working out. Something has to be done I the family front and the mental health care front. I am in agreement with some of the previous posts concerning broken families and the effect it has on our society. I wish people would put as much effort into their family relationships as they do arguing over petty $hit on the interweb.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:43pm PT
why are things becoming more violent here?

They probably were asking the same thing as the great depression took hold.

The rat experiments back in science class seem to relate to what we are seeing now. To many rats, not enough food so they turn on each other. I dont know really.

Ive been raised with guns, have used them all my life. Never have i even vaguely considered open random murder.

locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:43pm PT


"Who gives sh#t what you could do 40 yrs. ago."...

The past leads to the future...

It's ALL tied together...
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:43pm PT
A culture of violence.
We train and desensitize our children from a very young age.

Horrible horrible, disgusting.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:45pm PT


"and especially all of the mothers getting this news"...

THREAD DRIFT to say...

BULLSH!T on THAT one!!!...

You're implying that Mothers love their children more than fathers...

Simply NOT true!!!...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:45pm PT
Sure - let your kids get introduced to violence by video games instead of ugly reality,, that makes sense...
Anastasia

climber
InLOVEwithAris.
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:48pm PT
All I can say is there is a difference on how we allow bad behavior in this generation than others. Before if a kid hurts your daughter, it was perfectly alright for the father and brothers to make amends. Now... Nothing is really done. If a kid attacks another kid, it isn't a real crime since heck... They are kids. Kids get bullied and grow up into broken individuals and bullies grow up into some real evil folks since no one ever checked their behavior.

I can be wrong about this but.... From my life experience this is what I saw. I grew up with a socialpath. He is now living in jail for the rape and murder of a young girl. Before that he terrorized and did really horrible things in school and since he was nice looking with good grades... No one ever stopped him until he got bigger. In my mind, he needed some big consequences. The bigger the better.

survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:49pm PT
You mean worse than Benghazi? *gasp*

Better stay on top of this one Ron, lots of dead innocent Americans.

That was too good to not repost. And predictably Ron, you say there's no connection to guns.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:50pm PT


"no, not at all, it's just that i'm relating more to the mothers/other women"...

Maybe TRY relating to PARENTS minus the gender issue???...

;-)



Regardless, this is a HUGE tragedy for ALL concerned!!!...

donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:50pm PT
WLM get real, guns are a part of the problem....notice the 23 in China were injured, not killed. The availability of so many guns of all types does not cause the strange twists in the brains of sick people but it certainly facilitates their murderous intent.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:50pm PT
Ron, you couldn't buy military weapons during the great depression.

Crime is at historic lows...
per capita.

God is very patient...

Some say patient, some say lazy, other say absurd. Either way, if it makes you feel better to involve your imaginary friend, so be it, as long as they don't tell you to start buying guns... but most "god fearing Uhmerikuhns" can't seem to live without a few.
NRA Spokesman

climber
Fairfax, VA
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:51pm PT
We have released a position summary in response to this incident.

I have provided it here, in entirety, for your convenience:

Although the incident in Connecticut is regrettable, in no way will will it change the NRA position on the rights of gun owners.

We will continue to care more about our toys than about your children.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:51pm PT
I'm so over the NRA controlling our country...F*#k them, their guns and their backwards way of thinking.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:52pm PT



"God is very patient...but when He decides the time has come...His justice and wrath will be unstoppable."...

I never knew God, "Packed"...


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