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Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:28pm PT
18 children plus eight

children were 5-10 years old

if only they had had weapons those kids could have defended themselves

wait for it
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:29pm PT


The main difference I see between my generation and this new one is that there are way more kids coming from broken families...

We had the same drugs, same mental illnesses, same weapons, etc...

Otherwise, what the hell is so different NOW, that has this kind of sh!t is happening so often and by so many???...

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:29pm PT
I'm always shocked at the level of violence in PG movies... and the lack hot nude female bodies.

locker, part of the problem could be 311 million people today compared to 179 million in 1960. Oh, and the proliferation of guns, violence, and ignorance.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:30pm PT
I'm always shocked at the level of violence in PG movies... and the lack hot nude female bodies.


Phukkin' AAAA brother.


Don't you know that a psycho's right to easy access to multi-round weapons is sacred and female bodies are BAAAAD? Where ya been dude?
10b4me

Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:32pm PT
Is that gonna be helpful?

survival, you know what I am getting at
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:33pm PT
We had the same drugs, same mental illnesses, same weapons, etc...

Locker, we did not have the same access to PCP, Meth, etc back then

nor could anyone, anyone, be able to buy full military mega clip assault weapons when you and I were growing up
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:34pm PT
22 children injured in Chinese knife attack at elementary school.....


Injured is a lot different than dead.


Susan
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:34pm PT
Guns are the problem when combined with movies and tv and other media that glorifies stupid american sh!t.


I also think that is more the problem. Hell, nearly half the country is a bunch of paranoiacs who think the world is about to end. The media instills such a high level of anxiety while all sorts of other media point to violence as an answer. What do you think is going to happen?

Guns make violence easy, I don't know that banning them is the answer though. Although, I don't see Americans embracing values that would change this trend either.

It looks like our country turns out its own share of psychopath terrorists.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:34pm PT
Norton writes:

"nor could anyone, anyone, be able to buy full military mega clip assault weapons when you and I were growing up"

Until '68, you could buy guns through THE MAIL, Norton. No questions asked.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:35pm PT
way more kids coming from broken families...

Locker, I do not think the evidence shows that. Crime is at historic lows, due in large part to the easy availability of abortion. See Freakonomics, great book.

Many of these mass murders come from good solid families. The Batman guy, obviously mentally ill was successful in his own right, family was very successful. The Oregon shooter was on his way to Maui, WTF? Sadly some sick individuals have found a way to check out and exact some revenge on society for some perceived slight. What drives society crazy is the fact that we can not pass some law to stop it.
Anastasia

climber
InLOVEwithAris.
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:35pm PT
meChrist, I am stealing that. It is a very Good Point.

I myself won't need a gun, I want to kill that bastard with my bare hands. My God I feel so bad for the families involved. All I need to do is look at my son, think of someone hurting him and I start shaking.


locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:35pm PT

"Locker, we did not have the same access to PCP, Meth, etc back then"...

Seriously...

maybe YOU didn't...

But it WAS there and available...(NOT as easy to get though. You're correct on that!!!)

As far as the "CLIP" thing goes???...

I am 100% positive that back when I was a kid, they had weapons that would do equal the damage as was done in this situation...
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:35pm PT
Now the count is up to 27 dead

at least 100 rounds heard fired

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:36pm PT
"multi round weapons?? MOST are multi round weapons.. You can get thirty round clips for a ruger 1022.

This isnt about guns, the NRA or anything else other than a sick and diseased brain..
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:37pm PT

"Locker, I do not think the evidence shows that"...

What's your theory???...

SOMETHING has to be different...

It's like WHAT THE FUK is the matter lately???...

WHY is this sh!t taking place, so often???...



Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:37pm PT
Locker, in the 1950s?

well, that was when I was a kid

even in the 1960s, white kids smoking reefer was a big deal

but yeah, alcohol has always been available
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:39pm PT
There were so many shootings in the USA that there should be enough data to find the common factor. Does anybody know the outcome of such study?
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:39pm PT
22 children injured in Chinese knife attack at elementary school.....

How many mass knife attacks have there been in China in the last twenty years? In a country with a BILLION more people than we have.

Don't give me this bullshit that guns don't have anything to do with it.

Why aren't these guys doing their deeds with paper airplanes 'n' sh#t?
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:39pm PT


Born 1955 here...

I am talking MID 60's on...

Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:39pm PT
Until '68, you could buy guns through THE MAIL, Norton. No questions asked.


really?

you could buy full military assault weapons 40 years ago

anyone? no background checks?

the military allowed that back then?

ok, if you say so
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