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Anastasia

climber
InLOVEwithAris.
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:56pm PT
By the way... My cousin has a machine gun in his living room in Greece. We actually are not allowed to have any military installations close to Turkey as part of a treaty agreement. So... Our government issues weapons to the locals.

No one gets shot on the island. There have not been any mass shootings despite all the economic and political unrest in Greece. What does that say? It obviously points out that gun ownership is not equal to violence.

Something else is happening here and yes... It's extremely ugly.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 14, 2012 - 01:57pm PT
I'm so glad Ron doesn't have kids.

No one gets shot on the island.

From my limited time on islands, people seem to be pretty chill... maybe the sense of community that comes from being confined to a small chunk of land. But they drive like sh#t.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 14, 2012 - 02:00pm PT
Plus 1 Bobby D. Where was God during the Holocaust? Even bringing up the kind of crap is a gross injustice to the loved ones of the victims.
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Dec 14, 2012 - 02:01pm PT
"try to remember news coverage isn't healthy for us or our children"

Yea, lets all keep our head in the sand and our children ignorant of whats going on in the world.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 14, 2012 - 02:02pm PT
Okay, I promise not to talk like I know you... if you promise not to talk like you know about child psychology and how sensationalized news coverage is good for them.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 14, 2012 - 02:03pm PT
Why is it we never hear about mass knifings? Or someone who stones a crowd of people?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 14, 2012 - 02:05pm PT
Ken, mass knifing in China mentioned up thread. Note the children were INJURED, not killed like those involved in the gun attack in the US.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 14, 2012 - 02:09pm PT


"Note the children were INJURED, not killed"...

But the intent was there...

donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 14, 2012 - 02:12pm PT
Exactly Locker! The intent WAS there but knives aren't nearly as efficient as guns to actualize intent.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 14, 2012 - 02:14pm PT
Exactly, Jim.

I enjoy shooting now and again (read infrequently), but I'd give up the hobby if doing so helps to prevent this sort of sick and disgusting terrorism.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 14, 2012 - 02:14pm PT
Thank you for emphasizing the point. It can't be emphasized enough.

Rather, it will be interesting to see as time passes how many clues there were that this guy was nuts. Clues which went ignored.

Ignored because we blew $1.4 trillion on war while cutting nearly 10% of what we spend ($16 million) on mental health care. Ignored because people care more about their right to buy guns than their neighbor's right to proper medical treatment. Ignored because gun toting religitards are too busy fighting a woman's right to abort an unwanted child (a child that may very well develop mental health issues) than fighting for their ALREADY LIVING neighbor's right to proper mental health care.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Dec 14, 2012 - 02:15pm PT
knives aren't nearly as efficient as guns to actualize intent.

Plus it's a lot more personal to go up and knife someone.

Latest report is one of his parents was found dead....ok ... Now it will be blame the parents.

Susan
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 14, 2012 - 02:16pm PT

"How did god decide which children should live and which should die today?

all the parents with alive children are now thanking god for his decision"
...



Random drawing...

PSP also PP

Trad climber
Berkeley
Dec 14, 2012 - 02:17pm PT
Mental illness and easy access to guns is a tragic combination. Both problems need alot more attention. attention usualy equals money and money needs the political will. So call your politicans ask for funding and legislation in both areas. Is there a republican group that is against assault weapons; maybe they could get somewhere against the NRA lobby. I hear most cops are against easily available assault weapons why isn't their voice being heard?
this just in

climber
north fork
Dec 14, 2012 - 02:17pm PT
Some of us gun owners don't belong to the NRA and personally I can't stand the NRA and view them as radical c*#ks@ckers. Guns are the easy scapegoat, but something way bigger is going on. I have no solutions, but feel terrible for all those involved.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Dec 14, 2012 - 02:18pm PT
"How did god decide which children should live and which should die today?


Are you kidding? God's power is so humongous and terrible and unknowable he just does this sh#t while he's making his toast in the morning.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Dec 14, 2012 - 02:19pm PT
Is God an NRA member?
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 14, 2012 - 02:20pm PT
This is obviously the fault of the NRA, this country's first civil rights organization.

It could not possibly be the result of a culture that so loves violence that if you show a tit in a movie it will be rated X, but if you hack it off then it is only rated R.
It couldn't be a result of a culture that substitutes video games and tv for sound parenting and loving attention.

Must have been the presence of the tool, a complex device that nobody could manufacture for themselves in their garage,..
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Dec 14, 2012 - 02:22pm PT
Must have been the presence of the tool, a complex device that nobody could manufacture for themselves in their garage,..


Well a nice big bomb can be made in your garage, but there aren't many of those going off in malls or schools yet.

Maybe it's easier to get the guns than to build a bomb in your garage?
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 14, 2012 - 02:23pm PT


"It could not possibly be the result of a culture that so loves violence that if you show a tit in a movie it will be rated X, but if you hack it off then it is only rated R."...

I blame that on the conservative, religious type that view NUDITY as PORN...

A different subject all together...





But to your point above...

SOMETHING is going on that wasn't when we were kids (50's and 60's)...







EDITED:

"Maybe it's easier to get the guns than to build a bomb in your garage?"...

Bombs are pretty fuking EASY to make...

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