donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Dec 14, 2012 - 10:50am PT
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WLM get real, guns are a part of the problem....notice the 23 in China were injured, not killed. The availability of so many guns of all types does not cause the strange twists in the brains of sick people but it certainly facilitates their murderous intent.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Dec 14, 2012 - 10:50am PT
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Ron, you couldn't buy military weapons during the great depression.
Crime is at historic lows... per capita.
God is very patient...
Some say patient, some say lazy, other say absurd. Either way, if it makes you feel better to involve your imaginary friend, so be it, as long as they don't tell you to start buying guns... but most "god fearing Uhmerikuhns" can't seem to live without a few.
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t*r
Mountain climber
where the wild things are
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Dec 14, 2012 - 10:51am PT
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this thread is moving fast, so i'm going to repeat this:
try to remember news coverage isn't healthy for us or our children - it can be traumatizing for them, so turn it off if you've got kids around.
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NRA Spokesman
climber
Fairfax, VA
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Dec 14, 2012 - 10:51am PT
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We have released a position summary in response to this incident.
I have provided it here, in entirety, for your convenience:
Although the incident in Connecticut is regrettable, in no way will will it change the NRA position on the rights of gun owners.
We will continue to care more about our toys than about your children.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 14, 2012 - 10:51am PT
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I'm so over the NRA controlling our country...F*#k them, their guns and their backwards way of thinking.
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locker
Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
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Dec 14, 2012 - 10:52am PT
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"God is very patient...but when He decides the time has come...His justice and wrath will be unstoppable."...
I never knew God, "Packed"...
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Dec 14, 2012 - 10:52am PT
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(Locker... Fathers love their kids just as much. Just Mothers tend to self destruct immediately while Fathers take a little longer. Usually involving alcohol, etc.)
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locker
Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
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Dec 14, 2012 - 10:53am PT
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"Fathers love their kids just as much"...
and there is no need to explain further...
;-)
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SCseagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Dec 14, 2012 - 10:54am PT
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You're implying that Mothers love their children more than fathers
No Locker, I didn't take it that way at all. When children are lost we just revert to out gender role. I just saw a father speak about the sense of hopelessness he had knowing his son was at the school. It was heart breaking, luckily his son was safe. Healthy fathers and mothers both love their children to the end of the earth and then beyond. It might be helpful to check out someone's intent before inaccurate conclusions are jumped to. This is a time when we embrace ALL children...
Susan
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
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Dec 14, 2012 - 10:54am PT
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These are horrible incidents, yet to ignore them is to condone the action. Teach your kids about these- let them see the coverage. Let them see that reality is far different from those video games. Perhaps if the feel it more, the lesson will burn deeper. Kids are the future of America. They need to see all of this to create a better -"down the road"..
They no longer show movies in drivers ed classes like "for want of a seat belt" and "mechanized death" due to the graphic nature, yet i remember vividly seeing those , and it made a dramatic difference of how i thought behind the wheel..
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 14, 2012 - 10:54am PT
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Longstick wrote: God is very patient...but when He decides the time has come...His justice and wrath will be unstoppable.
Well f*#k you, the NRA and YOUR god. F*#king retard.
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Dec 14, 2012 - 10:56am PT
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By the way... My cousin has a machine gun in his living room in Greece. We actually are not allowed to have any military installations close to Turkey as part of a treaty agreement. So... Our government issues weapons to the locals.
No one gets shot on the island. There have not been any mass shootings despite all the economic and political unrest in Greece. What does that say? It obviously points out that gun ownership is not equal to violence.
Something else is happening here and yes... It's extremely ugly.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Dec 14, 2012 - 10:57am PT
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I'm so glad Ron doesn't have kids.
No one gets shot on the island.
From my limited time on islands, people seem to be pretty chill... maybe the sense of community that comes from being confined to a small chunk of land. But they drive like sh#t.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
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Dec 14, 2012 - 10:59am PT
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how do you know wes...you DONT..you dont know me at all as a matter of fact. Dont talk like you do ..
so lets see,, we have folks screaming NRA..? NRA? You mean the shooter was some NRA rep? I havent seen that on any reports.
Did you know MANY MANY MANY gun owners DONT belong to the NRA?
Do you know how many other organizations are out there?
same knee jerk sputter, different tragedy..
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Dec 14, 2012 - 11:00am PT
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Plus 1 Bobby D. Where was God during the Holocaust? Even bringing up the kind of crap is a gross injustice to the loved ones of the victims.
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atchafalaya
Boulder climber
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Dec 14, 2012 - 11:01am PT
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"try to remember news coverage isn't healthy for us or our children"
Yea, lets all keep our head in the sand and our children ignorant of whats going on in the world.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Dec 14, 2012 - 11:02am PT
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Okay, I promise not to talk like I know you... if you promise not to talk like you know about child psychology and how sensationalized news coverage is good for them.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 14, 2012 - 11:03am PT
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Why is it we never hear about mass knifings? Or someone who stones a crowd of people?
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Dec 14, 2012 - 11:05am PT
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Ken, mass knifing in China mentioned up thread. Note the children were INJURED, not killed like those involved in the gun attack in the US.
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locker
Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
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Dec 14, 2012 - 11:09am PT
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"Note the children were INJURED, not killed"...
But the intent was there...
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