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bergbryce
Mountain climber
California
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Dec 12, 2012 - 04:33am PT
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Somebody beat me to the Nagleri fowleri connection.
Glad you appear to be back.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2012 - 03:11pm PT
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From playing in water:
"In the 10 years from 2001 to 2010, 32 infections were reported in the U.S. Of those cases, 30 people were infected by contaminated recreational water and two people were infected by water from a geothermal (naturally hot) drinking water supply."
From using tap water in neti pots:
"However, the victims - a 28-year-old man and a 51-year-old woman from Louisiana - had not been near freshwater. The only thing they had in common was that they both routinely used the tap water with neti pots."
I STILL play in water, including hot springs. And I still use my neti pot with boiled (not boiling) water. I'm a bold mothafuka. Truth be told, before the neti pot I would snort tap water with salt, old skool style like my grammy taught me.
I'm sure we could name 30 climbers who have died in climbing accidents in the last 10 years off the top of our collective heads. Compared to two people in Louisiana who died from snorting tap water. Sometimes I wonder about the "bold rock climber types" who piss their pants at the mere suggestion of INCREDIBLY UNLIKELY risks. Besides, using a neti pot is WAY more fun than climbing.
stzzzzz... I had never used a neti pot before last Thurs. Your brain synapses are faulty. Might want to get that checked... you could have Nagleri fowleri.
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darkmagus
Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
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Dec 12, 2012 - 03:25pm PT
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Super rare indeed. Probably like "powerball winner rare".
I'm never one to miss a chance to call out a microbiological pathology! I'm probably one of the few chiropractors in the world that has an obsession with infectious diseases (which I never deal with in my clinic).
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 12, 2012 - 03:28pm PT
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I've had a bit of a sinus/throat thing going on. It might be time to see if I can clear it with a neti pot
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darkmagus
Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
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Dec 12, 2012 - 03:31pm PT
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Hit it up with the ol' salt water gargle. It makes bacterial cells shrivel up and DIE
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 12, 2012 - 03:35pm PT
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good idea.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2012 - 03:43pm PT
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The neti pot is a salt water flush, right through you sinuses... no gargling necessary.
nature, it took me a couple pots to get it just right. I was being too aggressive... really all it takes is a gentle flow... no snorting or gurgling or shaking, just tip your head and let it flow.
Be sure to get the right salt content... too little and it burns like hell... I haven't noticed anything when I use "a bit more." Cold water burns like hell too. Also, don't blow your nose hard afterwords or you ears will get all fukd.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 12, 2012 - 04:00pm PT
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I love you kleenex.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 12, 2012 - 04:00pm PT
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I love you cleen air.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 12, 2012 - 04:01pm PT
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I love you vitamin C.
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John M
climber
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Dec 12, 2012 - 04:14pm PT
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I love you alternative medicine.. which really shouldn't be labeled alternative. Thank you for all of your help. If only westerners would come to understand that western medicine doesn't have a lock on all things medicine.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2012 - 05:49pm PT
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Absolutely. I was taking Zyrtec-D and Tylenol because the pain was so bad and that was all I could get my hands on. Haven't touched the chit since I got my neti... just salt, baking soda, and warm water every couple hours. I may have dislodged the invader's mother ship that last go!!!
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Dec 12, 2012 - 06:10pm PT
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Doctor Bill told me to use a Neti Pot when I had a bad infection. It cleared me up nicely without the antibiotics I customarily use. Plus, it was even more important since I was pregnant at the time.
I totally agree with you on being a nice discovery. They sell the saline packets. I simply use warm water out of the facet. It works for me.
P.S.
Locker, What the heck? It is not necessary to make every thread into that. Seriously Dude. Love ya... AFS
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 12, 2012 - 06:21pm PT
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delete that locker.
Ricky D - do you understand the physiology behind coffee enemas or why they can be such an integral component of a cleanse?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Dec 12, 2012 - 07:45pm PT
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last time I checked, salt water was not a foreign substance.
If you don't have a neti you can always go surfing for a saline flush...just don't go after it rains
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Floorabove
climber
The Gunks y\'all
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Dec 13, 2012 - 10:40pm PT
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 13, 2012 - 11:03pm PT
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Nasal passages are more delicate than gums though, so only fine quality pure salt in the correct amount in pure water should be used. It is also important that your mixing vessel and the pot itself are kept clean and are entirely free of soap residue or any other foreign substance.
Before you hippies (sorry Kris) start saying how AWESOME this sh#t is, you need to have disclaimers like those Kris posted ^^^^^.
You can do more harm than good if you just start cramming warm tap-water down your infected sinuses from a non-sterile device!
Like adding wood to a fire! (not gas).
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John M
climber
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Dec 13, 2012 - 11:08pm PT
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Just make sure you don't snort that bong water.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 13, 2012 - 11:11pm PT
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ignorance shining though again
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 13, 2012 - 11:11pm PT
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Just make sure you don't snort that bong water Blue.
Ever accidentally swallow bong-water? Son of a bitch, that is gag-city....
EDIT: ignorance shining though again
What ignorance, doug? That I caution people?
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