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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 11, 2012 - 10:22pm PT
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This sinus infection resulted in my first experience with a neti pot... comparable to the first time I had sex... warm, wet, and quick discharge of strange salty fluids. I'm in love again!
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Dec 11, 2012 - 10:23pm PT
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wait til your brain rots from bacteria,
don't worry, you can try the E ciggarette next,
then the popeils pocket fisherman,
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Dec 11, 2012 - 10:35pm PT
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Neti is very good for you. Use pure water and fine non-iodized salt.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 11, 2012 - 10:40pm PT
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Neti is very good for you. Use pure water and fine non-iodized salt.
How is it "good for you?". Sinus infection city, bro.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Dec 11, 2012 - 10:40pm PT
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Pure as in distilled or boiled. You definitely don't want to get the amoeba
that travels up the nerves in the nose to the brain and causes fatal meningitis.
There have been several cases of that the past year although they were from warmer climates.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Dec 11, 2012 - 10:41pm PT
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I haven't been my ole days ST posting fool for a while. Got a job and a life. Well, partial life. Still working on a complete A-Z one. Actually, same with the job(s).
But tonight I ran into this thread and, tell me the truth bro/bruder, is yo my old friend weschrist with a slightly new handle???
If so, love from lynnie and happy holidays, dude!!!! Cheers
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Dec 11, 2012 - 10:49pm PT
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I would put this topic in the same category as Nature's coffee enemas.
Which begs the question as to why folks that aspire to a more holistic lifestyle seem so hell bent on sticking foreign substances up their orifices?
Am I missing some key point in these endeavors?
Edit: "Hey Lynnie - Charming Dawn and I say HI dudette!"
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 11, 2012 - 10:53pm PT
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You are missing the large masses of goo that ooze out of your sinuses... followed by a night of clear breathing.
After a night on the garage wall the snot went from clear/yellow to black... dusty out there. I wish I had one when I lived in SLC.
Hi lynnie
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Dec 11, 2012 - 10:56pm PT
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Have you tried "Hockenschpit".
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 11, 2012 - 11:03pm PT
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That comes after the Neti Pot... not nearly as effective. It sounds to me like you are afraid of filling your your orifices with warm fluids. Its okay, you can spit.
E.coli is way more common, and I still eat spinach cuz I'm bold like that!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 11, 2012 - 11:07pm PT
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That comes after the Neti Pot... not nearly as effective. It sounds to me like you are afraid of filling your your orifices with warm fluids. Its okay, you can spit.
Yeah. Call me traditional, conservative, or whatever, but yeah...you nailed it!
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 11, 2012 - 11:08pm PT
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The only thing I ever need to call you is a fuking idiot.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 12, 2012 - 12:22am PT
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Yay!
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Dec 12, 2012 - 01:05am PT
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Sinus infection city, bro.
Saline solution is cleansing. Through the process of osmosis, germs and garbage are drawn out from the delicate nasal tissues. This is the same reason your dentist wants you to rinse your gums with saline.
Nasal passages are more delicate than gums though, so only fine quality pure salt in the correct amount in pure water should be used. It is also important that your mixing vessel and the pot itself are kept clean and are entirely free of soap residue or any other foreign substance.
I've had some gnarly sinus problems over the years going back to when I frostbit the nasal passages while ski touring in extreme cold along the North Dakota/Canada border as a stupid kid. Several times in my 20's and 30's I had to go to the hospital to get the sinuses drained. You don't want to know what came out. In my 40's I started doing Neti (actually a Yoga practice) and I have not had a problem since. It's a daily routine for me.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 12, 2012 - 01:07am PT
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glad it's working out for you.
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MisterE
Social climber
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Dec 12, 2012 - 01:10am PT
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This isn't just a new sativa/indica blend at your local dispensary, then?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Dec 12, 2012 - 01:13am PT
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neti a day keeps the slime away...EVERY TIME..but only works for dirty hippie, liberal Commies...sorry blue
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Dec 12, 2012 - 03:07am PT
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Oh man I'm getting this, thanks!
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Dec 12, 2012 - 03:49am PT
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National Jewish in Denver, the number one respiratory hospital in America, pushes a little more sophisiticated version of the neti pot along with a chemically balanced (ph that is) commercially available solution as the first line of defense against allergies, sinus problems, vocal cord problems and bronchitis. That's where I came across it and it has worked wonders for mold induced allergies here in Okinawa.
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
California
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Dec 12, 2012 - 04:33am PT
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Somebody beat me to the Nagleri fowleri connection.
Glad you appear to be back.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2012 - 03:11pm PT
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From playing in water:
"In the 10 years from 2001 to 2010, 32 infections were reported in the U.S. Of those cases, 30 people were infected by contaminated recreational water and two people were infected by water from a geothermal (naturally hot) drinking water supply."
From using tap water in neti pots:
"However, the victims - a 28-year-old man and a 51-year-old woman from Louisiana - had not been near freshwater. The only thing they had in common was that they both routinely used the tap water with neti pots."
I STILL play in water, including hot springs. And I still use my neti pot with boiled (not boiling) water. I'm a bold mothafuka. Truth be told, before the neti pot I would snort tap water with salt, old skool style like my grammy taught me.
I'm sure we could name 30 climbers who have died in climbing accidents in the last 10 years off the top of our collective heads. Compared to two people in Louisiana who died from snorting tap water. Sometimes I wonder about the "bold rock climber types" who piss their pants at the mere suggestion of INCREDIBLY UNLIKELY risks. Besides, using a neti pot is WAY more fun than climbing.
stzzzzz... I had never used a neti pot before last Thurs. Your brain synapses are faulty. Might want to get that checked... you could have Nagleri fowleri.
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darkmagus
Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
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Dec 12, 2012 - 03:25pm PT
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Super rare indeed. Probably like "powerball winner rare".
I'm never one to miss a chance to call out a microbiological pathology! I'm probably one of the few chiropractors in the world that has an obsession with infectious diseases (which I never deal with in my clinic).
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 12, 2012 - 03:28pm PT
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I've had a bit of a sinus/throat thing going on. It might be time to see if I can clear it with a neti pot
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darkmagus
Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
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Dec 12, 2012 - 03:31pm PT
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Hit it up with the ol' salt water gargle. It makes bacterial cells shrivel up and DIE
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 12, 2012 - 03:35pm PT
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good idea.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2012 - 03:43pm PT
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The neti pot is a salt water flush, right through you sinuses... no gargling necessary.
nature, it took me a couple pots to get it just right. I was being too aggressive... really all it takes is a gentle flow... no snorting or gurgling or shaking, just tip your head and let it flow.
Be sure to get the right salt content... too little and it burns like hell... I haven't noticed anything when I use "a bit more." Cold water burns like hell too. Also, don't blow your nose hard afterwords or you ears will get all fukd.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 12, 2012 - 04:00pm PT
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I love you kleenex.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 12, 2012 - 04:00pm PT
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I love you cleen air.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 12, 2012 - 04:01pm PT
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I love you vitamin C.
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John M
climber
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Dec 12, 2012 - 04:14pm PT
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I love you alternative medicine.. which really shouldn't be labeled alternative. Thank you for all of your help. If only westerners would come to understand that western medicine doesn't have a lock on all things medicine.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2012 - 05:49pm PT
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Absolutely. I was taking Zyrtec-D and Tylenol because the pain was so bad and that was all I could get my hands on. Haven't touched the chit since I got my neti... just salt, baking soda, and warm water every couple hours. I may have dislodged the invader's mother ship that last go!!!
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Dec 12, 2012 - 06:10pm PT
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Doctor Bill told me to use a Neti Pot when I had a bad infection. It cleared me up nicely without the antibiotics I customarily use. Plus, it was even more important since I was pregnant at the time.
I totally agree with you on being a nice discovery. They sell the saline packets. I simply use warm water out of the facet. It works for me.
P.S.
Locker, What the heck? It is not necessary to make every thread into that. Seriously Dude. Love ya... AFS
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 12, 2012 - 06:21pm PT
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delete that locker.
Ricky D - do you understand the physiology behind coffee enemas or why they can be such an integral component of a cleanse?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Dec 12, 2012 - 07:45pm PT
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last time I checked, salt water was not a foreign substance.
If you don't have a neti you can always go surfing for a saline flush...just don't go after it rains
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Floorabove
climber
The Gunks y\'all
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Dec 13, 2012 - 10:40pm PT
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 13, 2012 - 11:03pm PT
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Nasal passages are more delicate than gums though, so only fine quality pure salt in the correct amount in pure water should be used. It is also important that your mixing vessel and the pot itself are kept clean and are entirely free of soap residue or any other foreign substance.
Before you hippies (sorry Kris) start saying how AWESOME this sh#t is, you need to have disclaimers like those Kris posted ^^^^^.
You can do more harm than good if you just start cramming warm tap-water down your infected sinuses from a non-sterile device!
Like adding wood to a fire! (not gas).
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John M
climber
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Dec 13, 2012 - 11:08pm PT
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Just make sure you don't snort that bong water.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 13, 2012 - 11:11pm PT
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ignorance shining though again
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 13, 2012 - 11:11pm PT
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Just make sure you don't snort that bong water Blue.
Ever accidentally swallow bong-water? Son of a bitch, that is gag-city....
EDIT: ignorance shining though again
What ignorance, doug? That I caution people?
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2012 - 11:22pm PT
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hahaha... tell me again how climbing is becoming pussified into a risk free glamor sport
... and how dangerous using a neti pot is
hahahaaaa
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 13, 2012 - 11:23pm PT
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I don't recall calling either a safe endeavor.
Edit: Hahhahaaa....whatever.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2012 - 03:11am PT
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pssst, 2 people have died from using a neti pot. 30 people died from the exact same VERY RARE Naegleria fowleri by swimming in rivers. 11,500 people died in firearm homicides. Over 34,000 kids died from firearm accidents.
Living on the fuking edge with this sh#t... reckless
... and OTC drugs pushed through the FDA by huge drug companies that make billions are safe, but salt water in your nose is SKETCHY.
(hint: the answer is easy... they are fuking idiots.)
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Gunkie
Trad climber
East Coast US
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Dec 14, 2012 - 03:50am PT
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Tried this once. I can only equate it to, 'the at home, waterboarding kit.'
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Floorabove
climber
The Gunks y\'all
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Dec 15, 2012 - 03:50pm PT
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Try this in your pot.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 15, 2012 - 04:08pm PT
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Is Neti related to Pol?
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Dec 15, 2012 - 04:10pm PT
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I don't like putting anything in my a*#…. But when I do…..
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 18, 2012 - 05:48pm PT
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got my neti pot today. makes me miss surfing in the ocean.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 20, 2012 - 04:52pm PT
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three days now of using the neti pot. getting use to it.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2012 - 04:55pm PT
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Once you get the angle right, smooth sailing! If it dribbles down your throat, just open wider.
Also, obviously, make sure the water is boiled... because if you don't and you happen to be in Louisiana or Florida, there is a 0.000001% chance you could get a brain eating amoeba. SCARY!!!
I don't know how I lived without it.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Just did my first Neti session & it is awesome, I can't believe how good it feels to breathe after! Thanks for the tip mechrist. Do u guys do it every day or ever multiple times in a day (can you party on this sh#t )?
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Rolfr
Social climber
North Vancouver BC
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My wife was using Neti Pot for relief from a cold with a sinus infection. It just assisted in spreading the infection and it got worse, to the point she had to be put on aggressive antibiotics to treat the sinusitis. My GP confirmed that the use of Neti Pot worsened her condition.
It may be good for temporary relief in some people for minor sinus irritation, but is definitely not the great cure all the Naturopathic medicine disciples would have you believe.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Neti is surely no cure for a serious infection. It is a preventative and therapeutic thing to do. Once a sinus infection rises above a certain level obviously medical attention should be sought.
Sorry your wife went through that. If my previous post seemed to imply Neti is a cure all I did not mean that. Just that it is a great way for me to keep my problematic sinuses and nasal passages clear and healthy.
Breathe well, my friends...
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Fletcher
Trad climber
The great state of advaita
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I've been using one for years. Works great for me.
You shouldn't use a neti pot when you have a cold or sinus infection. Ayurvedic practice specifically notes this.
One size does not fit all. That is one of the foundations of Ayurveda.
Eric
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Eric, how often? Daily?
Thanks
Ryan
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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May 17, 2013 - 05:52pm PT
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bump and a thanks for this thread.
since starting up using neti the condition in the back of my throat has cleared.
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grover
climber
Northern Mexico
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May 17, 2013 - 10:18pm PT
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got my neti pot today. makes me miss surfing in the ocean.
bwahahaha how true
been using a squirt bottle (call me cheap) for years.
love it!
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jabbas
Trad climber
New River, AZ
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May 17, 2013 - 10:24pm PT
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Go to Detroit ...
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CalicoJack
climber
CA
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May 17, 2013 - 10:35pm PT
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Part of my standard allergy season regimen, although i prefer the German moniker of...
NASENDUSCHE!
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Roxy
Trad climber
CA Central Coast
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May 17, 2013 - 10:58pm PT
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LOL!!!
this thread says 'pot'
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jabbas
Trad climber
New River, AZ
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May 17, 2013 - 11:29pm PT
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Still, Go to Detroit... Moran !!
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Fletcher
Trad climber
The great state of advaita
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May 18, 2013 - 01:29pm PT
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RyanD, just saw your reply. Sorry about that.
Yes, the routine is daily, usually the morning. If you have any sinus business going on (from a cold, for example) I skip it.
Eric
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2013 - 01:32pm PT
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Interesting Fletcher. I only use mine when I have sinus issues, cut lumber, or grind steel. Usually clears everything up in 1 or 2 sessions.
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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May 18, 2013 - 03:26pm PT
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I've been using one for years, salt & baking soda. Works for me. I suffer sinus infections and using the neti has cut the number of infections down quite a bit.
The one thing I've learned is not to do it too close to nap time. Getting horizontal too soon doesn't allow for gravity to play its role.
People snort all kinds of cosmic dust and live through it; and ironically two people in Louisiana are trying to do some holistic stuff and die. Strange.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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May 18, 2013 - 03:43pm PT
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couple lines of good coke cleans like a white tornado
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Grippa
Trad climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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May 18, 2013 - 04:28pm PT
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Pretty sure my lady got sphenoid sinusitis from using a neti pot.
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perswig
climber
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Sep 29, 2013 - 09:08pm PT
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Clearly the modern version has better branding.
Dale
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Sep 29, 2013 - 09:16pm PT
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Republicans told me that snorting Hindu water up my noseholes will allow brain eating amoeba into my head...and then I will become a Democrat!
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