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Social climber
Dec 7, 2012 - 11:07pm PT
Thanks for all your stoke and inspiration John.
Heal swiftly,

Big Wall climber
Pacif*#ka Muthaf*#ka
Dec 7, 2012 - 11:22pm PT
Ankle tibia whatever. did they stick a nail in it yet? Didn't Kauk bust his tibia in a MC crash a while back and he's ok?

These surgeries are common and not expensive, you people flip out
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Dec 8, 2012 - 02:40am PT
These surgeries are common and not expensive, you people flip out

I have no idea except what i saw in the pic and a few tidbits..But he does have a severe open tib fib injury and is still in the hospital after about a week. He had emergency surgery and has at least two more surgeries in the future - maybe a fasciotomy, nerve damage, compromised circulation, infection, arterial vascular damage,severe bone damage,tendon rupture or laceration, severe muscle damage, osteomylitis, sepsis,severe swelling, pain....a week in the hosp in LA with multilpe surgeries...easy over 100 000 thousand etc
Tibfib fractures can be more complex than just placing a screw
Jebus H Bomz

Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 8, 2012 - 04:28am PT
Yeah, Klaus, it ain't all universal healthcare and bergschrund in L.A., homie.

I racked up nearly 50k for trauma status and three days in the hospital with zero surgeries.

And that was without any bergschrund at all, duderhosen.
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Dec 8, 2012 - 07:03am PT
Klaus you are pitiably misinformed about the cost of US health care. I had my right knee replaced and in so doing was in hospital for two nights (2.5 days). Nothing special happened other than the installation of a titanium-and-nylon prosthetic and the immediate activities in recovery. The total bill was $168,000. Johno's bill will be spectacular. It will be higher than mine by quite a bit and will come in, measurable in pounds of paper.

Social climber
Oxnard, CA
Dec 8, 2012 - 07:07am PT
Here's an account I found on the web of a similar climbing injury.

Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Dec 8, 2012 - 07:14am PT
Klaus works in the health care industry right? Those guys can never tell you what anything costs. You don't even know the ace bandage you're applying cost $40 right?

but then again, he's not known for his bedside manner unless he's getting in the bed too


Trad climber
Washington DC
Dec 8, 2012 - 07:22am PT
First time I met John was one night around 73 in camp 4. A group of us were messing around on some problems and John came up and challenged us to a tennis shoe bouldering contest, which he promptly won. Heal quick Largo.

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 8, 2012 - 08:56am PT

Sheeit! Did they give you a guarantee?


Trad climber
Grand Junction
Dec 8, 2012 - 10:25am PT
Would not downplay this injury. Based the pattern of the fixator in the photo and what appears to be a Wound VAC hose coming from the medial side of the distal third of the tibia I would suspect this is an open (IIIB) pilon fracture of the tibia. Don't believe Kelly Cordes had an open component but you may want to look at his blog for the long rode to recovery from this type of injury even when it was closed.
As a long time weekender who has read many of his books and stores I am wishing John the best in his recovery.

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 8, 2012 - 10:30am PT

"Sheeit! Did they give you a guarantee?"...

Probably not...

But I bet they'll give him the shaft...

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 8, 2012 - 10:42am PT
Of course they gave him a guarantee.

It was the "light speed" guarantee; in a single second he could be $168K poorer!
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Dec 8, 2012 - 10:47am PT
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 8, 2012 - 10:49am PT
Good luck and a speedy healing John !

Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Dec 8, 2012 - 10:55am PT
My roommate had a rather unique set of personality traits: near-deaf, extroverted, and incontinent. I was annoyed rather than amused, and I requested being moved to a more peaceful location.

Big Wall climber
Reno, Nevada
Dec 8, 2012 - 11:32am PT
Can I have your external fixators John. I'm making some wind chimes and need a few more to add to mine.

Heal quick bro!
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Dec 8, 2012 - 11:55am PT
Didn't Kauk bust his tibia in a MC crash a while back and he's ok?

This summer, Ron told me his leg has never been the same since the crash. There's no such thing as an okay broken bone that you come back from 100%. Always something a little funky afterwards.

portland, Oregon
Dec 8, 2012 - 11:59am PT
Could happen to anyone. Heal quick Largo!
Most health insurance policies have an "out of pocket" cap on payments. Somewhere in the $5000-10,000 range. This type of event, even to a master, is exactly why we need universal coverage. I almost started a health care rant, but this is not the time or place. Feel better John.

Dec 8, 2012 - 02:30pm PT
The early to mid 50s seems to be a perilous time for some climbers. I ripped my right biceps off the forearm at age 50 and was out for a year (gave up bouldering); Bachar, Whillans, Edlinger and others came to tragic ends, and D'Antonio suffered a heart attack. I'm sure there are other such stories. And now JL has come to grief. I hope his pain (physical and financial) is not too great. And, yes, someone please verify the validity of the fund raising site - I recently encountered the FBI-Moneypak virus, and, boy, did that announcement look official.


Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Dec 8, 2012 - 03:12pm PT
Thanks for all the support. I'l make it through this.

Any "fund" was done without my knowledge and while no doubt well-intended is not the way to go. Nobody just gives money to a slush pot for people to spend on hot rods and lap dances or whatever.
Such a plan if needed will be way later. But I appreciate the thought.

Great to have friends.

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