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GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 29, 2012 - 06:54pm PT
IT WAS RAGING 50-75 MILE AN HOUR WINDS!!!!!



How many times have you heard that?


Listen, we all like to make our stories sound amazing, and there is an art form to it. But if you make up a wind speed, and there's no societal price for fabrication, no longer will ACTUALLY KNOWING THE WINDSPEED mean anything in conversation.


Climbing in 25MPH gusts is f*#king impossible, and it sounds pathetic because asshats claim to climb in 60mph gusts at josh every tuesday.


Unless you got instruments, it just blew 'really hard.'


:) end rant!


(not directed at Cragman, haha I bet he actually DID measure it in that other thread, or knows what it feels like :D but you get my drift...)
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Nov 29, 2012 - 06:58pm PT
I agree. Hear it all the time. Especially 70-80mph. You have to really hold yourself to stay standing during gusts like that and people casually mention it like it aint sh#t.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 29, 2012 - 07:00pm PT
Haven't ya noticed that guys and girls often have a much different
description of how hard it blows?
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 29, 2012 - 07:02pm PT
Yeah a friend of mine remarked getting blown off the top of a peak but I guess I should have asked some follow-up questions... that can be interpreted a number of ways....
Rudder

Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
Nov 29, 2012 - 07:07pm PT
Unless you got instruments, it just blew 'really hard.'

Yes. I was out at Moffett Field totally miserable, the winds were blowing so hard, they were about as hard as the worst winter days I've been out at Josh... maybe a little harder. The pilots and officials brought out the measuring equipment and declared 15mph with gusts to 25mph. Anymore than that, which does happen, and you can't stand up. :)
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Nov 29, 2012 - 07:07pm PT
Use the Beaufort Scale, if you brought your tidebook to Josh.
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Nov 29, 2012 - 07:09pm PT
15mph with gusts to 25mph. Anymore than that, which does happen, and you can't stand up. :)

that's ridiculous...that ain't shit
QITNL

climber
Nov 29, 2012 - 07:13pm PT
I guess you'd probably hate this site:
http://windmapper.com/?Loc=CA
Warning: contains people quoting wind speeds.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 29, 2012 - 07:13pm PT
been on a 10K + summit in 90 mph at least. enough to pick you up, travel you backwards up hill.


three years ago, we had 100 mph gusts here and thats when the steel horse barn ended up on the roof of the shop- and the door blew off of it hitting me - flew for about thirty feet like a kite then slammed to the ground breaking five ribs with the door on top of me.. brutal ride that was.


weather service had 100+ winds recorded for Moundhouse that day is several spots.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Nov 29, 2012 - 07:16pm PT
Why guess?

Credit: StahlBro
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 29, 2012 - 07:16pm PT
Warning: contains people quoting wind speeds.


If they are honest, then more power to them!


I've had sex with several small animals including a ground squirrel.

-QITNL

This is an example of a lie. gets annoying when people lie, I think.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 29, 2012 - 07:24pm PT
You know, that iPhone app is pretty bad-ass. But its like knowing the temperature.

It's just a number, and a number doesn't mean anything. 20mph in a T shirt in the desert in july, and 40mph in a down coat in winter, ya know? Same with temperate - doesn't matter what it says, I know when I'm cold and I know when I'm not. If it's fuggin freezing but the temperature is "only 65" I'll throw a coat on.


We're so attached to numbers, attached to quantifying... 10D or 10C... lol.

I'm probably the most guilty.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Nov 29, 2012 - 07:28pm PT
in 90 mph gusts or worse, you lean 45 degrees or more forward to step - its actually kinda fun -if your on easy descent terrain.. cept when ya get pummeled on yur azz, and the sting of scree and sand.


Jobs sister first winter ascent of the north face feb 1977, during the onset of the years biggest storm. Folks thought us to be dead, we were having a BLAST! Like a free wind tunnel at times..
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Nov 29, 2012 - 07:33pm PT
I'm pretty sure that 45 knot wind @ sea level, on the beach, packs a bigger punch than 45 knots at say 10,000 ft. More mass there, MV is bigger.
Burchey

Mountain climber
San Diego
Nov 29, 2012 - 07:34pm PT
I don't exaggerate - been knocked down on my ass by winds on one climb, and had a mostly-full backpack laying down picked up and tossed off a cliff - winds were pushing me off as well inside my bivy, had to keep wigglin back towards safety during the night. Been on the ice and almost blown off my tools on lead - that was the scariest. At LEAST 6 mph winds.
nutjob

Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
Nov 29, 2012 - 07:36pm PT
There should be some nice rules of thumbs for climbers to use:

e.g. How windy is it when:
 your ropes blow sideways or up?
  Your balanced on your spread knees at a slabby belay and the wind keeps knocking you over every few seconds?
 you let go of the positive grips for upward movement in favor of sideways micro-crimps so the wind gusts won't launch you sideways?
 you can't speak with your partner at the same belay station unless you yell into cupped hands over their ears?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Nov 29, 2012 - 07:39pm PT
i was in a Berryessa bass tournament once when the winds were howling at fifty straight down the lake.. There in the protected Spanish Flats marina harbor fished 128 boats- NO ONE was getting across or up the lake....We tried,, like the others, and tuned back after near sinking. Hard to fathom ten to twelve foot waves on that lil lake.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Nov 29, 2012 - 07:39pm PT
And wind speed isn't the relevant issue anyway. 10mph, 20, whatever, as long as it's constant, it's usually not a problem. The problem is changes in wind speed. Gusts. Lean hard into a 45mph wind and you can walk. Let that wind suddenly drop to 30mph and you're on your face on the ground.

Likewise for climbing. Up to a certain point, as long as the wind is constant, you can deal with it relatively easily. But let it suddenly gust, and you're flying.
dave goodwin

climber
carson city, nv
Nov 29, 2012 - 07:41pm PT
Last year we had a windstorm that was 80mph. It was the same day the big fire was blazing in Reno. I live on the east side of the Carson Valley facing directly west.

I let my dog out around 6am and the wind was blowing so hard that when I shut the door a vacuum went through the house and blew out the window in our bedroom.

Credit: dave goodwin

Credit: dave goodwin





Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Nov 29, 2012 - 07:46pm PT
A friend of mine has an interesting account of a descent off Fitzroy. He was leading the rappels, as his partner had broken an ankle in a fall. A storm was breaking too. He said that repeatedly he would be rapping and get blown back up the wall by a gust and then dropped. Utterly wild.

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