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D'Wolf

climber
Nov 29, 2012 - 08:19pm PT
I was snowboarding at Mammoth 3-4 years ago when the upper mountain was closed due to high winds. I came up the Boardwalk Express lift at one point. While trying to get off the lift I got blown back into the chair. My other half was on skis and used her poles to propel her forward. Sans poles, I tried 2-3 times before I simply ran out of space and ended up riding the lift back down to the bottom. Met my other half at the bottom and we rode the gondola up after that.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 29, 2012 - 08:22pm PT
Yeah. All those other fuks that "don't know" and think it's windier than it really is jest don't know wind.

Here's a couple photos of our ranchette last spring when the winds were gusting 40-60mph, with a nearby weather station reporting a high-gust of 68mph.

There was a lot of smoke in the air and I couldn't see schist, so I was out in the storm trying to see if there was a nearby fire.

The highest gusts would knock me around a little, but I could walk OK.

I didn't have to adopt the "wide-stance" favored by Idaho's gay ex-senator Larry Craig.

Speaking of wide stances and Patagonia, we did enjoy a high-wind day on our 2010 5-day trip near Bariloche in Northern Patagonia.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 29, 2012 - 08:35pm PT
Almost as bad as folks who talk about slope angle..

dude it was soooo steep at least 60deg...

yeah more like 40 mebbe

and yes at anywhere near sea level to 10k 60-80mph winds will put you on your ass you better crouch if you hear it coming.

Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 29, 2012 - 09:14pm PT
Jebus! Re your comment on wind speed and slope angle:

I can't say I've ever been bothered by peoples' estimations of wind speed and slope. I really must do a better job fetishizing my annoyances.


Indeed!

We are all waiting!
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Nov 29, 2012 - 09:55pm PT
Sierra Azul RAWS (remote automated weather station) monitored by National Weather Service. 1842 feet elevation behind Los Gatos
Yesterday morning through midday
28 13:32 S 24 G 53 52 51 100 2.62 54 24.8
28 12:32 S 35 G 74 52 51 100 2.62 53 25.6
28 11:32 S 40 G 72 52 51 99 2.57 52 25.8
28 10:32 S 26 G 53 53 51 95 2.40 53 25.6
28 9:32 SSE 27 G 53 53 49 89 2.29 52 25.6
28 8:32 SSE 30 G 45 52 48 88 2.24 50 25.3
28 7:32 SSE 20 G 49 52 47 84 2.14 50 22.2
28 6:32 SSE 22 G 43 50 46 89 2.14 49 21
28 5:32 S 16 G 46 52 45 77 2.13 51 16.2
28 4:32 S 28 G 46 52 44 75 2.13 51 15.3
28 3:32 S 24 G 40 52 43 73 2.13 52 15.6
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/sto/getRaws.php?sid=LSGC1&num=48

11:32 Steady 35 - 40 mph, gusting 74
I was on Ben Lomond ridge at that time. It felt to me like 60 knots (69 mph) which is hurricane force. So I guess I'm pretty well calibrated.

Right now I'm at home about 5 miles away as the tumbleweed flies and 1000 feet higher, on a ridge exposed to the Southwest.
last readings from Sierra Azul
29 17:32 S 30 G 55 54 53 100 2.83 54 26.1
29 16:32 S 31 G 53 54 53 100 2.80 54 26
29 15:32 S 24 G 55 54 53 100 2.77 54 26
29 14:32 S 30 G 55 53 52 100 2.76 53 25.9
29 13:32 S 16 G 51 53 52 97 2.69 54 25.7
Gusting 55 mph. Easy enough to walk in it if you bend to the breeze.
Gusted 61mph while I was writing this.

And I've felt MUCH stronger winds here at home.

I've commonly sailed in steady 30 knot (35 mph) winds and occasionally in gusting 50 knots (over 55 mph). as measured by the anenometer on my 30ft sailboat.
Kept my arse inside the house where I was staying a month ago tomorrow in Hurricane Sandy with local winds reported at 60 knots. Not because the wind would knock me over (which it wouldn't) but because of the falling trees, which there were.

Been knocked off my feet on the summit of Mt Rainier.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 29, 2012 - 10:05pm PT
I guess I think people feel they can get away with lying to you to impress you, because ain't no one gonna call 'em on their BS. So I'm gonna start :)


HAHA!





Plaidman

Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:08pm PT
When the rope snaps horizontal, it's blowing flippin hard. And if it goes straight up. Start praying.
Captain...or Skully

climber
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:08pm PT
It's just another kind of fish story. NBD
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:10pm PT

climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:10pm PT
Ron

No doubt a person can travel in 80+mph winds and gusts ..and yeah it can be a fun.. had a good time one night after work on Mt Rose in conditions like you describe..

But they will knock you on your ass or 20 feet away pretty easy if you misjudge em lol
guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:11pm PT
No need to call bullshit here with wind speed here-

The classic of Irving Johnston on the ship Peking around the Horn in 1929. Well worth the effort to watch the entire episode.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:11pm PT
Smoke is rising vertically here.
Check your Beaufort Scale!
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:12pm PT
We won't get fooled again.

sharperblue

Mountain climber
oakland, california
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:14pm PT
gawd. if i hear one more 'hurricane force' term used on any BS TR just one more time, i'm going to flip out. seems like there's a been a huge amount of hyperbole and exaggeration of wind speed, route ratings, penis size, and everything else over the past few years...wait...i MAY be getting old...sh*t
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:17pm PT
Having crawled (slowly) into 90+ mph winds on Mt Washington a few times on purpose I totally agree... People have no f'ing idea how scary real wind is. On one trip a friend (~200 pounds) got his chest a wee bit too far off the ground and was lifted right off the ground and blown about 25' backwards, luckily onto a breakable crust downslope. Right next to me too... Was like watching God just pluck him off the Earth.
east side underground

climber
Hilton crk,ca
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:17pm PT
G Davis you have no clue about wind. Come to my hood when the "scary Devil wind " comes. You won't care about numbers, you'l just hope that nothing gets broken. Have had campers blown over, (now bolted to concret slab with chains), tables blown off decks landing on cars, and every type of ball,toy trash can, etc in the yard after the wind. MY neighbor had a trampoline fly into his house,rip-off the trim and all the vinyl siding was stripped from the side of his house. Welcome to Hilton crk. :)
Plaidman

Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:20pm PT
Some of ya ought to come climb in The Columbia River Gorge. The wind howls and we climb. Here is a wind photo for ya.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:22pm PT
Right you are GDavis....the other area where climbers waaaaay overestimate is the steepness of snow slopes.

Concerning wind; I'm willing to bet that I've experienced more than anyone else on the Taco.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 29, 2012 - 10:27pm PT
Oh don't you fellas worry I'm a super pussy in weather, lol! I've bailed off off a 5.6 with my mom cuz A cloud, not several but a teeny one a lil ways away. I'm pretty sure a strong wind gust a while back put me back in puberty.


Never meant to say that I know anything about wind, sh#t I'm completely ignorant on what numbers mean what and feel like what.


Harshest winds were on Baldy in Feb about 2011, could hardly stand up and got kinda scared (again, I'm a pussy)so sorta crawled to the summy stood for a photo braced against a bunch of old day hikers that were psyched then crawled back to where I found a new kind of face-first glissade technique. Hurts on wind-hard ice but its super safe i think.
Leggs

Sport climber
A true CA girl, who landed in the desert...
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:27pm PT
I allow my magic hair to predict wind speeds...


PS: What the hell happened to the "weather girl" with the low cut blouse?! She was enjoyable. ;)
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