GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 29, 2012 - 03:54pm PT
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IT WAS RAGING 50-75 MILE AN HOUR WINDS!!!!!
How many times have you heard that?
Listen, we all like to make our stories sound amazing, and there is an art form to it. But if you make up a wind speed, and there's no societal price for fabrication, no longer will ACTUALLY KNOWING THE WINDSPEED mean anything in conversation.
Climbing in 25MPH gusts is f*#king impossible, and it sounds pathetic because asshats claim to climb in 60mph gusts at josh every tuesday.
Unless you got instruments, it just blew 'really hard.'
:) end rant!
(not directed at Cragman, haha I bet he actually DID measure it in that other thread, or knows what it feels like :D but you get my drift...)
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Nov 29, 2012 - 03:58pm PT
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I agree. Hear it all the time. Especially 70-80mph. You have to really hold yourself to stay standing during gusts like that and people casually mention it like it aint sh#t.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 29, 2012 - 04:00pm PT
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Haven't ya noticed that guys and girls often have a much different
description of how hard it blows?
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 29, 2012 - 04:02pm PT
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Yeah a friend of mine remarked getting blown off the top of a peak but I guess I should have asked some follow-up questions... that can be interpreted a number of ways....
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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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Nov 29, 2012 - 04:07pm PT
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Unless you got instruments, it just blew 'really hard.'
Yes. I was out at Moffett Field totally miserable, the winds were blowing so hard, they were about as hard as the worst winter days I've been out at Josh... maybe a little harder. The pilots and officials brought out the measuring equipment and declared 15mph with gusts to 25mph. Anymore than that, which does happen, and you can't stand up. :)
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Nov 29, 2012 - 04:07pm PT
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Use the Beaufort Scale, if you brought your tidebook to Josh.
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Riley Wyna
Trad climber
A crack near you
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Nov 29, 2012 - 04:09pm PT
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15mph with gusts to 25mph. Anymore than that, which does happen, and you can't stand up. :)
that's ridiculous...that ain't shit
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
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Nov 29, 2012 - 04:13pm PT
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been on a 10K + summit in 90 mph at least. enough to pick you up, travel you backwards up hill.
three years ago, we had 100 mph gusts here and thats when the steel horse barn ended up on the roof of the shop- and the door blew off of it hitting me - flew for about thirty feet like a kite then slammed to the ground breaking five ribs with the door on top of me.. brutal ride that was.
weather service had 100+ winds recorded for Moundhouse that day is several spots.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Nov 29, 2012 - 04:16pm PT
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Why guess?
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 29, 2012 - 04:16pm PT
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Warning: contains people quoting wind speeds.
If they are honest, then more power to them!
I've had sex with several small animals including a ground squirrel.
-QITNL
This is an example of a lie. gets annoying when people lie, I think.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 29, 2012 - 04:24pm PT
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You know, that iPhone app is pretty bad-ass. But its like knowing the temperature.
It's just a number, and a number doesn't mean anything. 20mph in a T shirt in the desert in july, and 40mph in a down coat in winter, ya know? Same with temperate - doesn't matter what it says, I know when I'm cold and I know when I'm not. If it's fuggin freezing but the temperature is "only 65" I'll throw a coat on.
We're so attached to numbers, attached to quantifying... 10D or 10C... lol.
I'm probably the most guilty.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
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Nov 29, 2012 - 04:28pm PT
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in 90 mph gusts or worse, you lean 45 degrees or more forward to step - its actually kinda fun -if your on easy descent terrain.. cept when ya get pummeled on yur azz, and the sting of scree and sand.
Jobs sister first winter ascent of the north face feb 1977, during the onset of the years biggest storm. Folks thought us to be dead, we were having a BLAST! Like a free wind tunnel at times..
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Nov 29, 2012 - 04:33pm PT
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I'm pretty sure that 45 knot wind @ sea level, on the beach, packs a bigger punch than 45 knots at say 10,000 ft. More mass there, MV is bigger.
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Burchey
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Nov 29, 2012 - 04:34pm PT
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I don't exaggerate - been knocked down on my ass by winds on one climb, and had a mostly-full backpack laying down picked up and tossed off a cliff - winds were pushing me off as well inside my bivy, had to keep wigglin back towards safety during the night. Been on the ice and almost blown off my tools on lead - that was the scariest. At LEAST 6 mph winds.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
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Nov 29, 2012 - 04:39pm PT
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i was in a Berryessa bass tournament once when the winds were howling at fifty straight down the lake.. There in the protected Spanish Flats marina harbor fished 128 boats- NO ONE was getting across or up the lake....We tried,, like the others, and tuned back after near sinking. Hard to fathom ten to twelve foot waves on that lil lake.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Nov 29, 2012 - 04:39pm PT
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And wind speed isn't the relevant issue anyway. 10mph, 20, whatever, as long as it's constant, it's usually not a problem. The problem is changes in wind speed. Gusts. Lean hard into a 45mph wind and you can walk. Let that wind suddenly drop to 30mph and you're on your face on the ground.
Likewise for climbing. Up to a certain point, as long as the wind is constant, you can deal with it relatively easily. But let it suddenly gust, and you're flying.
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dave goodwin
climber
carson city, nv
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Nov 29, 2012 - 04:41pm PT
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Last year we had a windstorm that was 80mph. It was the same day the big fire was blazing in Reno. I live on the east side of the Carson Valley facing directly west.
I let my dog out around 6am and the wind was blowing so hard that when I shut the door a vacuum went through the house and blew out the window in our bedroom.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Nov 29, 2012 - 04:46pm PT
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A friend of mine has an interesting account of a descent off Fitzroy. He was leading the rappels, as his partner had broken an ankle in a fall. A storm was breaking too. He said that repeatedly he would be rapping and get blown back up the wall by a gust and then dropped. Utterly wild.
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