Ron Anderson
Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
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Nov 23, 2012 - 03:04pm PT
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Uhhhm H,, dontcha think the BROTHERHOOD IS the reason the me is in a shytstorm now? It DOESNT MATTER the history that we were involved in before. there is nothing that will ever change that in the hearts and minds of those committed to jihad against westerners period.
We need to exit there, support Israel as a steady allie since 1960s. Let them handle gaza, and Iran.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 23, 2012 - 03:55pm PT
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The brotherhood is simply taking advantage of the situation David Horowitz and the neocons created. The very policies you continually espouse ARE the reason the brotherhood is now in a commanding position - you're like a nightmarish self-referencing and self-fulfilling prophecy. Sure, keep creating situations you can then leap on stage and be hysterical about. The past? The one you're so intent on repeating? Dude, your rearview mirror must have off a decade ago. And you don't like the way the dominoes fell? Bummer, man, real bummer.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
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Nov 23, 2012 - 04:04pm PT
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its not my view,, thats OBAMAs as well...Hes backing Israel too. He is denying Hamas statehood as well. He created the Libyan chaos also. I see no difference than tunes sung before and its very familiar ones. Thats what im saying here. But you keep tap dancin round that one.
Im also saying NO ONE in their right minds "deals" with the "brotherhood".
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 23, 2012 - 04:19pm PT
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He created the Libyan chaos also.
Obama DID NOT 'create' the Libyan chaos in any way shape or form. Once again for the tenth time, we responded to native events inside Libya because to not do so renders us irrelevant. We will now be responding to events across the region as the dominoes continue to fall and that's the hand Obama was dealt by the neocons.
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froodish
Social climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 23, 2012 - 05:03pm PT
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Ron, your posts on the Middle East -- and I say this sincerely, not trying to be a dick -- seem to be lacking an understanding of historical context. Might I recommend Fromkin's A Peace to End All Peace. It's not perfect but it's probably the best single volume work on the topic and is a good read to boot. Also, while the time period covered may seem like ancient history, I think you'll be surprised at how relevant it is to current conflicts.
Cheers,
-S
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Dr. F.
Ice climber
SoCal
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Nov 23, 2012 - 05:07pm PT
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This thread is just tribute to ron's little whine-oholic diatribe against the world and why he hates it
You will never get anywhere with ron
He is stuck, and wants anyone that will listen to him to revel in his sh#t pile with him
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Silver
Gym climber
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Nov 23, 2012 - 05:17pm PT
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Dr F you are such a dick that even those of us who know you might be correct in some of your views on issues would never agree with you on a forum just so no one thinks were a bigot and a dick like you.
Think of positive ways to encourage those who might see things differently to see some of what your seeing in a positive way.
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Dr. F.
Ice climber
SoCal
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Nov 23, 2012 - 05:28pm PT
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That is positive
Why are you so negative?
I'm not calling anyone a Dick, Like You
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jghedge
climber
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Nov 23, 2012 - 05:29pm PT
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"Ron, your posts on the Middle East -- and I say this sincerely, not trying to be a dick -- seem to be lacking an understanding of historical context. Might I recommend Fromkin's A Peace to End All Peace..."
Hahahahaha, were his type capable of reading, they wouldn't be his type.
For fools like Rong, willful ignorance is always preferable to growing up - he's got too much invested emotionally to allow reality to interfere with acting like a child.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
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Nov 23, 2012 - 05:59pm PT
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gee ,, when pointing out obvious errors being made by Obama you guys sure turn it into snide ones..
The PLAIN FACT is he is following his predecessors rather well.
Plain fact is he plans to put into law the NDAA 2013 which violates the Constitution multiple times.
Plain fact his ME handlings have been DISMAL thus far- Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Iran, Syria- worse than ever now. And That is due to efforts of introducing the brotherhood.. Obama supported the over throw of kadufus through monies and arms, of which are now turned against the US (Benghazi)and the govt officials there- as many have been attacked and or assassinated. By the same brotherhood types.
Sorry if this is upsetting guys,, but your need to belittle isnt my problem, its yourun....
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Nov 23, 2012 - 06:03pm PT
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It's all Obomers fault.
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jghedge
climber
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Nov 23, 2012 - 06:26pm PT
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"Sorry if this is upsetting guys,, but your need to belittle isnt my problem, its yourun...."
Hahahaha, try actually reading something besides wingnut pablum, idiot
We all know by now that the polar opposite of the infantile gibberish that you post will be the truth
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
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Nov 25, 2012 - 02:18pm PT
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/23/egypt-president-mohamed-morsi-ruthless
well,, so much for Egypt^^^^^^^ AGAIN thanks to the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD. Sounds like something we should really be encouraging doesnt it?????
the leader now deemed a ruthless dictator--- a muslim brotherhood candidate.
We HAVE TO STOP this BS with the ME NOW- write your reps! And be sure to include your disgust of the NDAA 2013!!!!!!!!
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 29, 2012 - 05:24pm PT
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Well if that's true Bluey, of course the government wouldn't be forthcoming in announcing to the public what went down and why. Is the public entitled to all our military secrets? If so, why is Brad Manning on trial?
The GOP didn't seem to care about secret CIA prisons when Bush was in charge
PEace
Karl
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 29, 2012 - 05:28pm PT
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Karl, ask yourself why "embassy staff" of 30 has not been heard from since the incident. These were the people the retired SEALs actually saved and got out safely.
Where the f*#k are these people? They saw the whole deal go down! No comments from them?
They were all CIA, and are being hushed up.
EDIT: The GOP didn't seem to care about secret CIA prisons when Bush was in charge
Didn't they admit, eventually, that they were needed? On foreign soil?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Nov 29, 2012 - 06:21pm PT
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blue- i think you're a right wing neo con extreme nutjob...
you think I'm a left wing commie liberal nutjob...
f*#k this sh#t...
let's go cragging1111!!!666
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 29, 2012 - 06:24pm PT
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Is a racist with a cart pusher
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 29, 2012 - 06:55pm PT
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f*#k this sh#t...
let's go cragging1111!!!666
Roger that, Wade. This weekend looks bad though.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 30, 2012 - 09:04pm PT
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Part 2 of the series where Americans died in Libya because of a botched gun-running deal to Syria. With a little trigger help from our Iranian "friends".
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/51400
Thanks Saudi Arabia, and thanks Obama!
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