Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 18, 2012 - 10:15am PT
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I don't know what the big deal about Benghazi is that anyone would need to be screwed with over it? The whole Muslim world was fired up and protesting in many countries at our embassies, and some terrorists used the occasion to jump in and kill some people in one country. Of course in the fog of all that, preliminary information turned out to be wrong. Big deal. Happens virtually everytime. Bush seemed to Indicate 9-11 was done by Iraq when it first happened.
Even if they tried to cover up some aspects of it, that happens everytime too in military and foreign stuff in janky countries.
This whole general thing..so bunk.
. to paraphrase Bill Maher on the Petraeus drama...
A Republican general has an affair with a Republican biographer who sends threatening emails to a Republican socialite who calls her Republican friend in the FBI who notifies Republican House Majority Leader Eric Cantor ....
Obama's fault.
Now I'm not saying there's not something wrong in all that, but that sort of wrong thing has been a regular part of our military and foreign policies for many, many years.. you only seem to care with the other party is in charge. Fine, if you want to reform the NDAA, and the stinking military industrial complex, I'm all for it. It's just not an Obama thing
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
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Nov 18, 2012 - 10:22am PT
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Karl the point IS that indeed Bush pulled some heavy duty BS in engaging Iraq-and now Obama is doing the same. And its escalated. The ME is a shitstorm now. "Palestine", Israel, Syria, turkey, Yemen Egypt, Iran et al .. So WHEN Obama pulls the trigger on Iran what will you say?
It has always been my desire that we LEAVE the ME to its own demise, but that ISNT going to happen- thank you WASHINGTON..
So that being said,,whom are we going to back? Hammas? Not hardly. Might as back the eye-a-toilet while we are at it.
edit: as for the NDAA ,, indeed it isnt just a dem or repub thing,,it IS a downright COMMUNISTIC thing.
edit: as for the Generals and admiral, we may NEVER know the details and history, if "uncle sam" does as always. As far as 9-11, this has become a date where nearly every citizen and agencies concerns rise slightly. Except if your in a foreign consulate.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Nov 18, 2012 - 10:38am PT
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I would ask how many boy scout groups youve taught,
NOW we know!
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
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Nov 18, 2012 - 10:39am PT
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now you know what..?
PLEASE elaborate..
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Nov 18, 2012 - 10:40am PT
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Ron, NONE of that gives you a pass to tear down the US, to subjugate people as a slavemaster, nor any other anti-American BS that you advocate.
I couldn't care less how much of that Joseph McCarthy did.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
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Nov 18, 2012 - 10:45am PT
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hhhmmmm lemme see,,, im against violent radical islamists,, gang bangers and a law (NDAA 2103) which was first written long ago by hitlers staff.
And that makes me somehow unpatriotic? Because im against socialism's that will bankrupt us in no time makes me unpatriotic?
Once again i see the left swinging the insults in an effort to somehow "answer" but no "answers" come forth.. But your very good at hurling ridiculous insults.
Now answer my question Ken,, what have YOU done for our country .
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
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Nov 18, 2012 - 10:52am PT
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waiting Ken ...
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
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Nov 18, 2012 - 10:52am PT
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but NOT holding breath....
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Nov 18, 2012 - 11:55am PT
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hhhmmmm lemme see,,, im against violent radical islamists,, gang bangers and a law (NDAA 2103) which was first written long ago by hitlers staff.
And that makes me somehow unpatriotic? Because im against socialism's that will bankrupt us in no time makes me unpatriotic?
Yes, you pink slime, when you state that the Congress of the United States is Hitler's Staff, you are unpatriotic scum.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
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Nov 18, 2012 - 12:00pm PT
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Where did i say that Ken..
The NDAA language is VERY MUCH the same as Nazi Germany. That is what i said..
Now TELL ME what youve done for our country. You wanna call my patriotism out -fine. Im callin yours. GIVE ME YOUR LIST or your just another limp wristed malingerer...
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Douglas Rhiner
Mountain climber
Truckee , CA
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Nov 18, 2012 - 12:25pm PT
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limp wristed
This is devolving quickly....
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
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Nov 18, 2012 - 12:27pm PT
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pink slime and unpatriotic scum are ok,, but limp wristed isnt?
snort,, chuckle....
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 18, 2012 - 12:36pm PT
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"...indeed Bush pulled some heavy duty BS in engaging Iraq-and now Obama is doing the same. "
Just to entertain your kool-aid soaked mind for a minute...
You're drawing an equivalency between the Shrub/Neocon shenanigans that placed us squarely and purposely into a pointless war with the Obama Administration's supposed inadequate security efforts & cover-up attempts in Libya?
Those two are equivalent?
Really?
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 18, 2012 - 12:44pm PT
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"The NDAA language is VERY MUCH the same as Nazi Germany. That is what i said.."
Another weird equivalency.
And pretty slimy, at that.
You guys are pretty desperate these days.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
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Nov 18, 2012 - 12:45pm PT
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Yeesh apogee....No,, i didnt say ANYTHING of the like.. I DID say things about the NDAA including the pre-planning of the budget for an attack on IRAN, and i did say that Libya IS indeed an Obama debacle.
By the way,, Obama says taking the few rich types isnt going to be enough..
Apogee, what would YOU CALL detaining citizens with military for being "belligerent" sent off to gitmo for ten years before getting trial under a military tribunal? WHERE ON EARTH does this fit into the constitution, liberty or freedom?
edit: of course it wont be GITMO,, but one of the many detention centers being built and ammo cashes supplied to in the country.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Nov 18, 2012 - 01:32pm PT
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The NDAA language is VERY MUCH the same as Nazi Germany. That is what i said..
YOUR language is VERY MUCH like that of the KKK, the Nazi's, the Stalinists, all of the fascists of history.
What does that tell us about you?
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
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Nov 18, 2012 - 01:34pm PT
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Your quite whacked this morn Ken...
STILL waiting for your list of patriotic duties though..
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Nov 18, 2012 - 01:35pm PT
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Now TELL ME what youve done for our country. You wanna call my patriotism out -fine. Im callin yours. GIVE ME YOUR LIST or your just another limp wristed malingerer...
You have this bizarre concept that, instead of doing things because you love your country, you are accumulating "get out free" cards that allow you to do anything TO your country.
You appear to be in the same category of Aldrich Ames and other traitors, who thought that their life of public service allowed them to be traitors, and it is just fine.
I couldn't care less about your list of accomplishment, while you trash your country. Stand by your words, don't hide behind your history.
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OR
Trad climber
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Nov 18, 2012 - 01:37pm PT
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YOUR language is VERY MUCH like that of the KKK, the Nazi's, the Stalinists, all of the fascists of history.
What does that tell us about you?
Really? I may not agree with Ron all the time but that statement is absurd. TOTAL FAIL.
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