Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
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Oct 30, 2012 - 10:36am PT
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tha FACTS are obama has increased the deficit.. NEVER cut anything in half other than people with jobs.
Edit
no chyt....^^^^^^^
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Oct 30, 2012 - 10:37am PT
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BTW Ron, Obama promised to cut the DEFICIT in half, not the national DEBT.
Do you know the difference?
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
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Oct 30, 2012 - 10:37am PT
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Philo, if Jim Bridwell is nothing but an angry burned out husk,, what are you?
yeah,, truth hurts.
see above mono
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Oct 30, 2012 - 10:37am PT
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Well I don't know Ron, Illuminate me, what am I?
You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you.
And for the record here is my whole quote.
And for the record both Lynn and Jim did remarkable climbs. But Bridwell is an angry burned out husk. Lynn is still a upbeat active and vital person making a contribution to the world around her. Please dispute with your inside info facts.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
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Oct 30, 2012 - 10:39am PT
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YOU critiquing Bridwell.... snort,, chuckle guffawwww!
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Oct 30, 2012 - 10:42am PT
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You criticizing and critiquing Obama snort, chuckle, guffaw.
Suffering as you do from false equivalencies you just don't get it do you?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Oct 30, 2012 - 10:45am PT
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"There's no shortage of their kind in the politically bluest parts of California. Liberals so freaked out about the prospect of President Obama losing his re-election bid that they can't sleep at night."
"...one of President Obama's top campaign strategists, has a word for supporters he feels are needlessly fretful: bed wetters."
http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Dems-nervous-GOP-upbeat-as-vote-nears-3989238.php
Average Democrat = Bed Wetter. Obama's guy is right.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
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Oct 30, 2012 - 10:46am PT
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You DONT see me bashing MY family, nor do you see me degrading the names of true climbing greats here. This is a matter of class - something youve proven to lack.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Oct 30, 2012 - 10:47am PT
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Why is this it's own thread?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Oct 30, 2012 - 10:48am PT
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You criticizing and critiquing Obama snort, chuckle, guffaw.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
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Oct 30, 2012 - 10:53am PT
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OCTOBER 29, 2012 12:32 PM
What we owe the victims of Benghazi
BY DEREK HUNTER
The national media hves, for the most part, ignored the developments in the Benghazi scandal. They ask what they have to, they expose what they must, but they spend far more time on what some Senate candidate said or what the latest polls show than they do on what happened to our Libyan Ambassador Christopher Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods.
We know the White House knew of the attacks while they were happening, that they had real-time communications with those under attack, received repeated cries for help, watched video of it live from drones overhead for seven hours and did nothing.
We also know CIA officers were repeatedly ordered to “stand down” that day and not aid those under attack, an order Doherty and Woods ignored and saved lives.
What we don’t know is who ordered them not to help, or who decided the military would sit this out.
Enter Kyle Clark.
Kyle is a reporter with KUSA in Denver and was able to interview the President as part of his campaign’s media outreach to swing states. Kyle asked, “Were the Americans under attack at the consulate in Benghazi Libya denied requests for help during that attack? And is it fair to tell Americans that what happened is under investigation and we'll all find out after the election?”
President Obama dodged it, hoping a non-answer would suffice. It didn’t.
Kyle asked again if those under attack were denied aid. The President’s answer is disturbing.
edit:Brandon, are you saying its ok for one side and not the other?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Oct 30, 2012 - 10:57am PT
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Rong thinks 9/11 2012 = 9/11 2000
False equivalencies
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Oct 30, 2012 - 11:02am PT
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Philo writes:
"Rong thinks 9/11 2012 = 9/11 2000"
What happened in 2000?
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socialclimber
Trad climber
CA
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Oct 30, 2012 - 11:05am PT
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Anybody go back and actually read this thread? No wonder our world is sh#t, when there are real problems everyone just starts bitching and saying someone else is to blame. We are in this together, to stick to the mistaken idea that somehow we are independent is crap. Trying to win simply by defacing the other guy is something that adolescents do, putting forth ideas to solve problems, or work toward solutions is something statesman do, where have they gone?
The problem with Democrats is that they believe government and money can solve problems.
The problem with Republicans is that they are willing to sit by and watch government fail.
The problem with humans is that when things get scary, serious, and life threatening we stop thinking and start reacting, marginalizing, hoping no one notices that the floor is crumbling...
Charles
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 30, 2012 - 11:06am PT
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"What happened in 2000?"
A very important meeting called by Clinton with Shrub, Cheney and his security team regarding a pattern of communications and plans for a significant terrorist attack on the US sometime in the fall of 2001.
Clinton was patronizingly patted on the back, and shown the door.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 30, 2012 - 11:08am PT
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"The problem with Democrats is that they believe government and money can solve problems."
Not really true at all, except as it is hyperbolized in Republican political ads.
"The problem with Republicans is that they are willing to sit by and watch government fail."
99.9% true.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Oct 30, 2012 - 11:08am PT
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Thank you Apogee.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
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Oct 30, 2012 - 11:08am PT
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true to degrees Charles. But as the nation swirls, people are waking up,,slowly though.
USA :: Radical Islam :: Print this Article
FORMER CIA OFFICER: OBAMA ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS WATCHED BENGHAZI TERROR ATTACK ON LIVE TV FEED AND LET AMBASSADOR DIE WITHOUT TRYING TO HELP
10-24-2012 3:02 pm - Glen Beck
Glenn invited Clare Lopez, a former CIA officer, onto his TV show Monday night to discuss the attack on the U.S. embassy on Benghazi. Lopez has written extensively on the situation in Libya, as well as on Ambassador Stevens’s connections to jihadist groups in Libya and Syria.
“What went on in Benghazi had it’s roots much further back,” Lopez told Glenn.
Lopez believed, much as Glenn does, that Ambassador Stevens was in Libya for reasons still not known publicly to the American people.
“It was to act as official U.S. government liaison to Al Qaeda linked jihadist militias. And they would include some of the same people now trying to overthrow Assad in Syria,” Lopez said.
She wrote of the events:
During the 2011 Libyan revolt against Muammar Qaddafi, reckless U.S. policy flung American forces and money into the conflict on the side of the rebels, who were known at the time to include Al Qaeda elements. Previously the number two official at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, Christopher Stevens was named as the official U.S. liaison to the Libyan opposition in March, 2011.
Stevens was tasked with helping to coordinate U.S. assistance to the rebels, whose top military commander, Abdelhakim Belhadj, was the leader of the Al Qaeda affiliate, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG). That means that Stevens was authorized by the U.S. Department of State and the Obama administration to aid and abet individuals and groups that were, at a minimum, allied ideologically with Al Qaeda, the jihadist terrorist organization that attacked the homeland on the first 9/11, the one that’s not supposed to exist anymore after the killing of its leader, Osama bin Laden, on May 2, 2011.
Lopez, who was a CIA officer for twenty years, told Glenn that she had seen agents come under heavy fire in the past, but there were always people and assets who assembled to come to their aid. She found it unusual that with all the surveillance the White House and the administration had on the embassy that more was not done to provide aid.
“I have never seen a situation where a facility was under attack like that and nothing happens.”
Lopez added that Stevens knew he was a potential Al Qaeda target and lacked the security he needed to be in the country. Requests for increased security were denied by the State Department prior to the attacks on September 11th.
She also said it was her opinion that James Clapper, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and General David Petraeus are all aware of what really happened in Libya.
“This has to be brought out. This has to be made known to the public. That this is going on and that our administration was not only working with the bad guys. Was working with Al Qaeda linked militas and jiihadis to overthrow Assad in Syria but that they let our mission go down.
They let our ambassador and others die. In real time, watching it happen, and they didn’t do anything about it,” Lopez said.
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Eric Beck
Sport climber
Bishop, California
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Oct 30, 2012 - 11:12am PT
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I have been a strong Obama supporter. We had an Obama sign up in our yard before he was even nominated. However, he has done something very bad and done it gratuitously.
Section 1013 of the National Defense Authorization act allows indefinite preventive detention of anyone with out them being charged. These people will have no access to an attorney. This provision was specifically requested by Obama. See:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/09/1043781/-Why-Obama-Will-Not-Veto-NDAA-Military-Detention-of-Americans-He-Requested-It
My own guess as to why he did this is that he and the 1% were genuinely frightened by the Occupiers and wanted more ammunition to fight them.
This leaves me in a big quandry. I can't stand Romney. Perhaps I whould vote for Jill Stein, Rocky Anderson or Gary Johnson.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
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Oct 30, 2012 - 11:15am PT
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Eric, he took the patriot act to extremes never thought of...Especially for one who promised TRANSPARENCY...Something we havent seen at all!
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