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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 27, 2013 - 04:10pm PT
Whut yur 20% off? Isnt even close to justifiable,, should be 70% off.;-)
paul roehl

Boulder climber
california
Mar 27, 2013 - 04:33pm PT
[youtube=http://youtu.be/wiVjpbFzdeE]

Maybe it all started right here. All the nasty arguing and bickering, the great wedge between left and right, the absolute sureness so many have with regard to their own subjective political view.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 27, 2013 - 05:33pm PT
In the early 20s many a politician had sudden accidents, or dissapeared or was generally disgraced from his party due to "squealing" on what was taking place. It had started before then, and has built to a monster out of control.


Fema coffins and grave sites, empty concentration camps, all manner of different agencies ordering millions of hollow point ammo and urban assualt vehicles. No one can tell me why the need for such increases and sites.
None the less that is what is happening now. Take for that what you will.

Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Mar 27, 2013 - 07:34pm PT
Damn couch baby, your teatard leanings never get this quantity of response back home, looks like you've found a new hobby.

Yeah, and that's it, I already regret poking my head into a political Supertorpid thread...

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 14, 2013 - 11:18am PT
cross posted from the Aviation thread,, JUST ABOUT the most ridiculous TAX ive ever heard of in my entire life.





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USPA Challenges Proposed User Fee (updated 04/11/13)
On April 11, one day after President Obama unveiled his 2014 budget containing a new $100 per flight user fee, USPA wrote to the president explaining how such a fee would devastate businesses that operate skydiving airplanes. The new fee would apply to each flight by a turbine aircraft in controlled airspace. “It is clear that no one within the administration understands that turbine jump planes routinely make up to 25 flights per day. An operator with one turbine airplane could pay $2,500 each day in user fees; an operator with two aircraft could pay $5,000 each day,” said Ed Scott, USPA’s Executive Director. USPA pointed out that those same operators already pay between $158 and $263 per aircraft per day in federal fuel taxes on jet fuel. USPA described a new user fee as “inequitable, duplicative and (requiring) a new, costly bureaucratic process to assess and collect the fee.” USPA requested that the president withdraw his aviation user fee proposal. Many Members of Congress already oppose aviation user fees, so the administration has a high hurdle to clear to get a bill through Congress. However, USPA and skydiving businesses need to take action now, rather than counting on Congress to defeat the proposed tax.

TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 14, 2013 - 11:40am PT
Hey,

it's only going to effect those 1%ers
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 14, 2013 - 11:44am PT
the friggin MAFIA had more logic with its protection racket than the counterfeit c*cksuckers we have in there now!!!!
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 14, 2013 - 11:50am PT
Different era,



same methods and motivations.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 15, 2013 - 09:03am PT
In a 53-46 vote the Senate narrowly passed a measure that will stop the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.

The Statement of Purpose from the bill read:To uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.The U.N. Small Arms Treaty, which has been championed by the Obama Administration, would have effectively placed a global ban on the import and export of small firearms. The ban would have affected all private gun owners in the U.S., and had language that would have implemented an international gun registry on all private guns and ammo.

Astonishingly, 46 of our United States Senators were willing to give away our Constitutional rights to a foreign power.Here are the 46 Senators that voted to give your rights to the U.N.

Baldwin (D-WI), Baucus (D-MT), Bennet (D-CO), Blumenthal (D-CT), Boxer (D-CA), Brown (D-OH), Cantwell (D-WA), Cardin (D-MD), Carper (D-DE), Casey (D-PA), Coons (D-DE), Cowan (D-MA), Durbin (D-IL), Feinstein (D-CA), Franken (D-MN), Gillibrand (D-NY), Harkin (D-IA), Hirono (D-HI), Johnson (D-SD), Kaine (D-VA), King (I-ME), Klobuchar (D-MN), Landrieu (D-LA), Leahy (D-VT), Levin (D-MI), McCaskill (D-MO), Menendez (D-NJ), Merkley (D-OR), Mikulski (D-MD), Murphy (D-CT), Murray (D-WA), Nelson (D-FL), Reed (D-RI), Reid (D-NV), Rockefeller (D-WV), Sanders (I-VT), Schatz (D-HI), Schumer (D-NY), Shaheen (D-NH), Stabenow (D-MI), Udall (D-CO), Udall (D-NM), Warner (D-VA), Warren (D-MA), Whitehouse (D-RI), Wyden (D-OR)






seems the democrats were all for the USA being tied with the UN ..
jghedge

climber
Apr 15, 2013 - 09:31am PT
"Astonishingly, 46 of our United States Senators were willing to give away our Constitutional rights to a foreign power."


Astonishingly, the US joined Syria, N Korea and Iran as the only other countries to vote no.

That is who gun nuts stand with.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 15, 2013 - 11:00am PT
The USA stands with ITSELF as ALWAYS. It will not have its arms regulated by third world countries. It will not have its citizenry affected by what other countries think. Countries like those who are known enemies of the USA and western cultures.
That treaty would have been an utter disaster on MANY fronts including environmental. Let alone foreign invasion of OUR rights.

Things like having the UN patrol our waters is also quite ludicrous. The US Coast guard does excellent in that respect. THANKS to all those SMART and Loyal politicians that voted this down the tubes!!.

The UN has been and will continue to be the MOST DYSFUNCTIONAL GROUPING ever...
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 15, 2013 - 11:04am PT
your commentary is as incisive and compelling as ever...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 15, 2013 - 11:06am PT
Ron, how often do skydivers jump from above 18,000' (the lower limit of 'controlled airspace')?
Most turbine jump planes that I have seen are Twin Otters so they are
not allowed to go that high unless the pilot is using oxygen.

It is still a stupid tax.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 15, 2013 - 11:07am PT
Ive posted the sections of that disaster here before Wade. Didnt feel the need for redundancy. The treaty was tossed. I wrote every rep i had numerous times over it with precise and detailed concerns over the many pitiful sections of that treaty. As that is where the effort counts, not here.
jghedge

climber
Apr 15, 2013 - 11:11am PT

"The UN has been and will continue to be the MOST DYSFUNCTIONAL GROUPING ever..."


Hahahahaha, completely and transparently obvious that you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about, as always

Just another proud display of ignorance.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 15, 2013 - 11:12am PT
Reilly, i wasnt aware that they didnt include ALL classes of airspace.?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 15, 2013 - 11:22am PT
Ron, as far as I know jumping is only allowed in 'uncontrolled airspace'
unless special arrangements are made with the FAA or ATC. It may be that
jumping above FL 180 is SOP at heavily used jumping facilities. The one at
Perris comes to mind but it isn't that far from the final approach to March AFB.
Of course, nobody on the approach is going to be above 18K' but fighter jets
have been known to undertake 'creative' approaches.

Monday morning humour interlude:
One time I was flying my sailplane out of Hemet, just a few miles from Perris
on the other side of the March approach, and I was intently working
a thermal cause I had allowed myself to get kind of low (meaning almost out
of gliding distance back to the field). I gained a couple thousand feet and
was starting to breathe easier when all of a sudden a dark mass appeared in
my peripheral vision and quickly blotted out the ground! A C-141 Starlifter
passed directly below me! He looked so close and so big it appeared I could
have landed on his topside, if I could have caught him. I used the altitude
I had gained to get someplace safer. ;-)
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 15, 2013 - 11:28am PT
That would leave an impression for sure- perhaps in the seat cushion from clamping ones buttocks! Never did get a ride in a glider..

But as for the tax, correct me if im wrong, but i thought that would include all classes of airspace near airports?.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 15, 2013 - 11:29am PT
Not all airports - many, maybe even most, small airports are in 'uncontrolled' airspace.
Even an airport with a tower can be in uncontrolled airspace,
and I can think of quite a few.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 15, 2013 - 11:35am PT
uuuhhhhrogerthat over!

I know back when i was jumping we got some pretty long delays even when the dz was at 4700'.. So im guessing many jumps are upda troposphere some..
wait till they wanna tax climbers by altitude, or by meter.;-)
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