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Fletcher

Trad climber
The great state of advaita
Apr 25, 2013 - 10:18pm PT
Have any of you ever been involved in protests?

I noted this in my child-hazed (40 years ago would have been drug-hazed) ramble above.

About seven years old, I marched in the front of a march from Clark University in Worcester to the City Hall. Nobody got tooled, all was peaceful (as far as I recall). It did get me worrying about being drafted though! Had a hard time falling asleep because of that.

When I was in first grade in the same city, I remember when Nixon edged out Humphrey for the presidency. I learned of this from my school mates. Somehow, somebody (this school went to sixth grade) organized all the boys in our recess area (we were still segregated from girls in those days, though that changed soon afterward. We were in one long line, shoulder to shoulder. Everyone marched back and forth across the school yard chanting "We want Humphrey, we want Humphrey." I remember thinking, "Hey, this might just work!" Hahaha. Pretty amazing that somebody organized that. Kinda of a very proto-flash mob!

Eric
Fletcher

Trad climber
The great state of advaita
Apr 25, 2013 - 10:19pm PT
Mouse: "Fat Lembert Dome?"

Don't know about that one, but I once did the Chickenheart traverse on Fat Albert Dome.

Eric
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 25, 2013 - 11:29pm PT
60's.....protests

70's.....concerts

80's.....cocaine

90's.....bad music, blandness

00's....Twin Towers, President Cheney

10's....Social media run amuck

The future.....the cockroaches are mobilizing
jogill

climber
Colorado
Apr 25, 2013 - 11:42pm PT
it is the politicians who glorify war, not the military with any experience of it

Don't be too sure. These days the generals and admirals must be clever politicians for advancement.

I served under Curtis Lemay for a couple of years. He tried his best to influence JFK to obliterate Cuba. Of course, in retrospect from what we know now [Soviet generals had been given permission to launch several nuclear-tipped missles] that might have been seen as the best strategy. It's good Kennedy's bluff worked. Liked JFK even though he involuntarily extended my tour of duty when the Berlin Wall went up.
Captain...or Skully

climber
Apr 26, 2013 - 12:07am PT
Just think only 47 years or so until the sixties.....Like it matters.
Yer hung up on a lie, folks. Those bastards sold you out. Made a profit, too.

Watch it, Jim. I'm an expert on all things Bland.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 26, 2013 - 02:45am PT
Who's known as the Lion of the Blues?

No lookin' up, you lookin'-up cheaters.

He's still alive and he's "colorful."

This ain't he.
It's just a carry-over from the hats thread.
Credit: GI
Somebody explain the meaning of the tam on this otherwise distinguished member of the establishment. They run outa ballcaps?
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Apr 26, 2013 - 11:30am PT
Too easy, but not too sure about him being alive today. That would be Delia's husband Billy DeLions. And of course you know why S. Lee shot him. Just because Billy through the lucky dice.

Credit where credit is due below
Credit where credit is due below
Credit: Bayo



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mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2013 - 08:23pm PT
This is for all those who turned to trad (and not some weird ape-hanging shit) after chasing the alpinist dream. It isn't "settling" at all--alpinism is "unsettling," at least to me.

Credit: mouse from merced

Credit: mouse from merced

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Credit: mouse from merced

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And that would be this horror.
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I thought it best not to reveal the ending. It's truly creepy and weird.

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2013 - 10:53pm PT
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Islam is the same as Mohammedism. Believe it or not.

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Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-harem.

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Pattern?

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Ain't no profilin' here, officer. We cool.

Credit: mouse from merced
"...but I do beguile The thing I am by seeming otherwise."
Peter Haan

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Apr 27, 2013 - 11:35pm PT
If anyone was continuing to wonder, Sleeping Sam Hayakawa kicked the bucket in 1992. And in obscurity, I might add.

As far as his silly habit of wearing a Tam-O-Shanter, he said "it is a symbol of courage".

Let's recall his main thrust at first as President at SF State was to resist the notion that a program should be established for Ethnic Studies. The Panthers even got involved, which of course galvanized the white fear-based right in the exprected dialectic. But Sam relented, or shall we say, caved and soon the program was up and running and in no time the place was covered with people of all kinds of terrible colors.

It was a bad period for SF State under S.I.H. My father was Dean of the School of Education. Needless to say, he retired early because of S.I.H and his health was just starting to deteriorate. At the time his SS, Pers, and retirement seemed to have him covered! What a joke that became in a decade.

here's a bit on the Hayakawa BSU crisis at State from BITD: The Harvard Crimson, no less:

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1969/1/15/song-of-hayakawa-pbibf-morris-abram/
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 28, 2013 - 03:43am PT
Great Peter thank you!

The sentence from that link's article that helps most for clearing the air about SF State is this:

"Murray, who in his spare time was Minister of Education for the local Black Panther chapter, had angered Reagan-appointed state college administrators by urging black students to carry guns and to guard themselves against local police."

The fact that Hayakawa's power play against the teachers failed due to good old fashioned sabotage by the people kind of reflects the whole era, what with the VC operating in a very similar, if more deadly, manner.

It might be well to point out that there were several "liberation armies" in the sixties and early seventies, not just the Third World LA, the People's Liberation Army (red) that defeated Chiang Kai-Shek and so on, but there were the Black Liberation Army (black) and the Symbionese LA that took little Patty (orange and black). Probably more I don't know of.
SLA colors, same as Merced High School and the SF Giants.
SLA colors, same as Merced High School and the SF Giants.
Credit: GI

All these people and these terrible colors. Reminds me of that ridiculous Tam O'Shatner.
http://www.amazon.ca/OSHATNER-VINTAGE-CROCHET-Patterns-ebook/dp/B003UV8N50


mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 28, 2013 - 03:27pm PT
From Grossman's thread on RR's article.
From Grossman's thread on RR's article.
Credit: Jim Phillips photo
Grossman 1960s-era nut collection sampler.
Grossman 1960s-era nut collection sampler.
Credit: Steve Grossman
Bird's sliding nuts by nutstory.
Bird's sliding nuts by nutstory.
Credit: mouse from merced
Decades late, dollars short. Sixties icon, still a sport.
Chris Bonnyngtonne, doing his Jogill routine.
Chris Bonnyngtonne, doing his Jogill routine.
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Is that a Brit version of a heel hook? Some blokes'll do anything, not naming names.
The Sloth, Britain.  From RR's 1966 Summit article.
The Sloth, Britain. From RR's 1966 Summit article.
Credit: John Cleare photo
The Sixties keep hanging around, don't they?
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Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Apr 28, 2013 - 03:37pm PT
Bird on a wire - Esther Ofarim - 1969 sound
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Apr 28, 2013 - 03:50pm PT
Thanks Peter when I saw the tam I wondered whatever happened to ol SI Hayakawa.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Apr 28, 2013 - 07:29pm PT
^^^^ditto Jay....Peter, very interesting story...sorry about your Dad, how one "boss" can wreak such havoc. Arrrgh

Susan
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 28, 2013 - 08:14pm PT
A Leading Canadian on US history.
No one associated with Mr. Stills EVER made a mistake.
You be the judge. I was way too stoned when this came out to know good from studly. I think it's the latter, but understated.

"That's no mistake."--Fat Lembert

"He's not Jimmy."--Bear McCallum

Jimmy Smith's Wild Side is obivously more "This is my soul" than Al Kooper's work. And let's face it, the guitar on Supersession is not well-recorded, either. Stills may have been right when he said "farce." A bunch of super groups failed mightily. This tune was from the '62 Days of Wine & Roses.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 28, 2013 - 09:09pm PT
Experience THIS!
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1120694/The-LSD-thread

Not that I really believed a person turned into an orange on acid and never came back(popular 1970's anti-drug propaganda)--HGrrl

POOF said Mescalito!
POOF said Mescalito!
Credit: Captain Beef Taco
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - May 2, 2013 - 03:36am PT
Zing!
It was national news that a Thalidomide baby resided in Merced when we moved here in 1961.
Credit: mouse from merced
I remember the older brother, slightly, as a young teen he was noted also for his full beard.

Ever do a boulder problem "no hands?"
http://healthworldnet.com/articles/the-best-of-the-best/the-first-seal-baby-the-real-story-of-thalidomide.html

For that matter, I've always wondered about Easter Seals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Seals_(US)#The_.22Easter_Seals.22_name_emerges
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - May 2, 2013 - 12:12pm PT
Encounter group.
Encounter group.
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The Onassis Wedding.
The Onassis Wedding.
Credit: mouse from merced
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - May 7, 2013 - 10:40am PT

Walter and Margaret Keane
http://www.squidoo.com/margaretkeane
The Little Thinker by M. Keane
The Little Thinker by M. Keane
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Rod McKuen
Credit: GI
Despite his popular appeal, McKuen's work has never been taken seriously by critics and academics or by much of the public. "...through the years his books have drawn uniformly unkind reviews. In fact, criticism of his poetry is uniformly vituperative..."

Guido, what's your take on McKuen? First of all, we can see he can't spell as well as you and your family. Second, I seriously doubt he ever led anything.

Did any of you you ever BUY one of his books or records for yourself? I know a lot of folks got Keane and McKuen junk as gifts. I call it junk. Some people calls it art. It sorta reflects the times from the viewpoint of Bank of America and White Front.

"Put McKuen's book in the bookcase over by The Little Bug-eyed Children painting, dear, next to that Stewart woman's books, dear."
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