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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Apr 23, 2013 - 01:14pm PT
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Jan....burning my draft card to score at the March on the Pentagon was cynical but successful. On a more altruistic note....my experiences in the 60's in the Special Forces forever shaped my feelings about war and guns.
War.....I don't trust politicians, none of whom have sons and daughters in harms way, to make decisions about sending young Americans onto the battlefield. This may seem counter intuitive, but, i believe that most general officers are better equipped in that area- they know that war is horrid and should not be glorified.
Guns.....having used weapons suited only for battle, i cannot understand why are congress men and women cannot make common sense decisions about restricting assault weapons and large capacity magazines.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Apr 23, 2013 - 01:17pm PT
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In other words, Jim, why does 90% public approval not equal 60 senators or greater.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Apr 23, 2013 - 01:45pm PT
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I agree with you Jim, it is the politicians who glorify war, not the military with any experience of it.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 24, 2013 - 12:55am PT
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You'll have to do better, zBrown.
How come the judge?
Is that Dick Gregory, by chants?
Fat Lembert Dome?
bKool for school?
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Apr 24, 2013 - 04:03pm PT
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"just don't judge me my shoes"
that is a more robust Bobby Seale.
don't confuse with H. Rap Brown
When the judge heard he'd be trying a Black Panther, he is alleged to have said, "well they've never contended with the Orange Julius now have they. I'll put 'em all in shackles".
No, that is not a misprint he did not mention shekels. (had to look that one up for spelling purposes). Some who are not in the know might call these just another type of fastenber, but we know better.
That is not Robert the Bruce above, but could be a relative.
In any event:
Corn in the fields
Listen to the rice when the wind blows 'cross the water
King harvest has surely come
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 25, 2013 - 08:19pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]That's ALL OVER yer BLUES.
Yer blue, pardon. It's a lot quieter.
[Click to View YouTube Video]GO JOHNNY GO!
JAMES, ELMORE.
Boogie on my middle name.
JAMES GANG.
It's Jim James Shirley's name, too.
JAMES RIVER.
Oh, fer sure.
BALDWIN, JAMES.
Which naturally leads us back to Atwater and the F'n Gs.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Don't ask, I ain't sayn.
It sure feels good.
No more catch0-up.
Ain't that lead a FLAKE!
Becalm me.
Take down the walls.
Rebuild me a ocean.
Type me some kind words and notes.
Soft and blue.
Fill that sea with I, you, me, we.
And call it the sea of dreams.
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Gene
climber
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Apr 25, 2013 - 08:28pm PT
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My high school classmate (left) on the day (8/7/70 - not quite the 60s) he died near the Marin County Court House. 17 years old. Soledad Lad.
g
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Apr 25, 2013 - 10:05pm PT
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Judge Haley, I think would have preferred the Orange Julius.
As Warren Zevon has observed
"That Amazing Grace
Sort of passed you by
You wake up every day
And you start to cry"
In case anyone is wondering what ever became of Geoge Jackson:
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Fletcher
Trad climber
The great state of advaita
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Apr 25, 2013 - 10:18pm PT
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Have any of you ever been involved in protests?
I noted this in my child-hazed (40 years ago would have been drug-hazed) ramble above.
About seven years old, I marched in the front of a march from Clark University in Worcester to the City Hall. Nobody got tooled, all was peaceful (as far as I recall). It did get me worrying about being drafted though! Had a hard time falling asleep because of that.
When I was in first grade in the same city, I remember when Nixon edged out Humphrey for the presidency. I learned of this from my school mates. Somehow, somebody (this school went to sixth grade) organized all the boys in our recess area (we were still segregated from girls in those days, though that changed soon afterward. We were in one long line, shoulder to shoulder. Everyone marched back and forth across the school yard chanting "We want Humphrey, we want Humphrey." I remember thinking, "Hey, this might just work!" Hahaha. Pretty amazing that somebody organized that. Kinda of a very proto-flash mob!
Eric
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Fletcher
Trad climber
The great state of advaita
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Apr 25, 2013 - 10:19pm PT
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Mouse: "Fat Lembert Dome?"
Don't know about that one, but I once did the Chickenheart traverse on Fat Albert Dome.
Eric
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Apr 25, 2013 - 11:29pm PT
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60's.....protests
70's.....concerts
80's.....cocaine
90's.....bad music, blandness
00's....Twin Towers, President Cheney
10's....Social media run amuck
The future.....the cockroaches are mobilizing
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jogill
climber
Colorado
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Apr 25, 2013 - 11:42pm PT
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it is the politicians who glorify war, not the military with any experience of it
Don't be too sure. These days the generals and admirals must be clever politicians for advancement.
I served under Curtis Lemay for a couple of years. He tried his best to influence JFK to obliterate Cuba. Of course, in retrospect from what we know now [Soviet generals had been given permission to launch several nuclear-tipped missles] that might have been seen as the best strategy. It's good Kennedy's bluff worked. Liked JFK even though he involuntarily extended my tour of duty when the Berlin Wall went up.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Apr 26, 2013 - 12:07am PT
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Just think only 47 years or so until the sixties.....Like it matters.
Yer hung up on a lie, folks. Those bastards sold you out. Made a profit, too.
Watch it, Jim. I'm an expert on all things Bland.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 26, 2013 - 02:45am PT
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Who's known as the Lion of the Blues?
No lookin' up, you lookin'-up cheaters.
He's still alive and he's "colorful."
This ain't he.
It's just a carry-over from the hats thread.
Somebody explain the meaning of the tam on this otherwise distinguished member of the establishment. They run outa ballcaps?
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2013 - 08:23pm PT
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This is for all those who turned to trad (and not some weird ape-hanging shit) after chasing the alpinist dream. It isn't "settling" at all--alpinism is "unsettling," at least to me.
And that would be this horror.I thought it best not to reveal the ending. It's truly creepy and weird.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2013 - 10:53pm PT
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Islam is the same as Mohammedism. Believe it or not.
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-harem.
Pattern?
Ain't no profilin' here, officer. We cool.
"...but I do beguile The thing I am by seeming otherwise."
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Apr 27, 2013 - 11:35pm PT
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If anyone was continuing to wonder, Sleeping Sam Hayakawa kicked the bucket in 1992. And in obscurity, I might add.
As far as his silly habit of wearing a Tam-O-Shanter, he said "it is a symbol of courage".
Let's recall his main thrust at first as President at SF State was to resist the notion that a program should be established for Ethnic Studies. The Panthers even got involved, which of course galvanized the white fear-based right in the exprected dialectic. But Sam relented, or shall we say, caved and soon the program was up and running and in no time the place was covered with people of all kinds of terrible colors.
It was a bad period for SF State under S.I.H. My father was Dean of the School of Education. Needless to say, he retired early because of S.I.H and his health was just starting to deteriorate. At the time his SS, Pers, and retirement seemed to have him covered! What a joke that became in a decade.
here's a bit on the Hayakawa BSU crisis at State from BITD: The Harvard Crimson, no less:
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1969/1/15/song-of-hayakawa-pbibf-morris-abram/
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 28, 2013 - 03:43am PT
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Great Peter thank you!
The sentence from that link's article that helps most for clearing the air about SF State is this:
"Murray, who in his spare time was Minister of Education for the local Black Panther chapter, had angered Reagan-appointed state college administrators by urging black students to carry guns and to guard themselves against local police."
The fact that Hayakawa's power play against the teachers failed due to good old fashioned sabotage by the people kind of reflects the whole era, what with the VC operating in a very similar, if more deadly, manner.
It might be well to point out that there were several "liberation armies" in the sixties and early seventies, not just the Third World LA, the People's Liberation Army (red) that defeated Chiang Kai-Shek and so on, but there were the Black Liberation Army (black) and the Symbionese LA that took little Patty (orange and black). Probably more I don't know of.
All these people and these terrible colors. Reminds me of that ridiculous Tam O'Shatner.
http://www.amazon.ca/OSHATNER-VINTAGE-CROCHET-Patterns-ebook/dp/B003UV8N50
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