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lars johansen

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Apr 21, 2013 - 11:06pm PT
I took the acid test, administered by Ken Kesey, at Longshoreman's Hall. I can't remember if I passed or not.

lars
jogill

climber
Colorado
Apr 22, 2013 - 12:36am PT
I was in my late 20s and 30s during the decade, and from 1962 through 1967 lived in a small town in a western Kentucky rural area where people only got excited about the local high school (and Murray State) basketball teams. My take on the time was a bit different from those of you who were younger and living in more cosmopolitan environments. I had finished my stint as an AF officer, facilitating round-the-clock missions of B-52s loaded with nuclear weapons, flying out over the north Atlantic and back, ready to attack at a moment's notice. I felt very little apprehension about the two superpowers going at it. I wasn't particularly interested in the music of the era, and I was nowhere near any mass demonstrations. I was in a nearby building at the U of Alabama when Wallace stood in the doorway, barring entrance by a black student(see photo previously), and was disgusted by the overweaning twirp but didn't run around shouting at him. Maybe I should have. And although I had admired LBJ I gave up on him when he extended the war. I visited communes and ate with a generous and warm group of students at the U of Colorado who had formed one as an alternative to fraternities and sororities. I bouldered on weekends at Dixon Springs and other spots in S. Illinois with my wife and small child and a couple of fellow faculty members and students who became interested in the sport.
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 22, 2013 - 12:56am PT
Nice little slice of a personal history, Mr. Gill. Thanks.

That last U-tube bit is a gem, Mouse.

The woman that introduced me to my wife in Santa Cruz years back at one time lived across the street from Jerry Garcia somewhere in San Fransisco. She talked about this huge walk-in closet that she had in her house and Jerry would come over and hide in there when things got too wild at his place.

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Apr 22, 2013 - 02:27am PT


710 Ashbury St.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Apr 22, 2013 - 02:44am PT
Freedom 7 5/5/1961


Liberty Bell 7 7/21/1961


Friendship 7 2/20/1962


Aurora 7 5/24/1962


Sigma 7 10/3/1962


Faith 7 5/15/1963

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Apr 22, 2013 - 03:05am PT
Gemini III 3/26/1965


Gemini IV 6/3-7/1965


Gemini V 8/21-29/1965


Gemini VII 12/4-18/1965
Gemini VI 12/15-16/1965


Gemini VIII 3/16-17/1966


Gemini IX 6/3-6/1966


Gemini X 7/16-21/1966


Gemini XI 9/12-15/1966


Gemini XII 11/11-15/1966

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 22, 2013 - 03:34am PT
Here's one way the herd is being quieted down when it gets riled anymore.
http://www.bilerico.com/2011/09/choi_trial_latest_attack_on_peaceful_protest.php

"They'll tool ya and then you'll come back again."--Om Reddy

http://m.newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2012/06/27/pensacola-cartoonist-depicts-ala-newspaper-job-cuts-leading-return-and-t

Credit: GI
Credit: GI
Credit: GI


mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 22, 2013 - 03:41am PT
On July 4, 1970, overcrowding in Yosemite Valley led to a clash between Park Rangers and anti-war demonstrators. The mob dragged mounted Rangers off their horses, and overturned the Mariposa Sheriff's squad car. Shots were fired. The riot led to more than a hundred arrests, several injuries, and great destruction of property Ė and changes to Park Service access policies and training practices.

From Mighty Hiker's sources and thanks, Anders.

Hippy freaks in Yosemite pre-1970, the things they got away with back then!

Credit: GI
Peaceful assembly in Stoneman meadow.
Peaceful assembly in Stoneman meadow.
Credit: SanJoaquinValleyLibrarySystem
The Charlatans on a holiday with the groupies.
The Charlatans on a holiday with the groupies.
Credit: GI


Has Anyone Seen My Decade? (Musta Left It Somewhere)

Bong met bong
Then Cheech met Chong
While Tom and Yvong
Could do no wrong
Borghoff wrote a climbing song
Bircheff wore a simple thong
Said goodbye to old John Long
Then tie-died Largo came along
Forgive me if I tell it wrong
But my memories seem really strong
--Old Taco McTell
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 22, 2013 - 05:00am PT
Credit: GI

Pwychelemedelic CD cover, homemade compilation.
Pwychelemedelic CD cover, homemade compilation.
Credit: Mark Alfred
That's what happened here, with somebody's home-grown CD Psychedelic 60s. It had a home-printed CD front & rear insert, but inside was the ol' silver CD-R-with-a-sharpie-inscription.

But ya know, it's pretty fun! Thank heaven that we can enjoy the wild music without having to go through the actual "psychedelic" experiences that may have inspired it.

Here is the tracklist:
1 99th Floor Moving Sidewalks 2:13
2 I've Got Levitation 13th Floor Elevators 2:42
3 Maid of Sugar, Maid of Spice Mouse and the Traps 2:41
4 Eagle Never Hunts the Fly The Music Machine 2:47
5 Double Yellow Line The Music Machine 2:13
6 Frustration The Painted Ship 2:55
7 When I Arrive We the People ... 2:59
8 Go Away The Plague 1:58
9 Writing on the Wall The 5 Canadians 2:21
10 Reverberation (Doubt) 13th Floor Elevators 2:48
11 No Good Woman The Tree 2:44
12 She Lives (in a Time of Her Own) 13th Floor Elevators 3:00
13 Where You Gonna Go? Unrelated Segments 2:51
14 Absolutely Positively The Music Machine 2:15
15 Swami William Penn 3 2:57
16 Trippin' Out Something Wild 2:13
17 Scarlet and Gold 13th Floor Elevators 5:00
18 Yesterday's Hero The Satyrs 2:38
19 Dr Doom 13th Floor Elevators 3:15
20 Smell of Incense W.C.P.A.E.B. 5:52
21 Satisfaction Guaranteed The Mourning Reign 2:19
22 Slip Inside This House 13th Floor Elevators 8:05
23 I Wanna Come Back (from the World of LSD) The Fee-Fi-Four Plus Two 2:21
24 Spider and the Fly The Monocles 2:07
25 Mother Nature/Father Earth The Music Machine 2:14
26 I Need Love The Time Stoppers 2:53
Also included is read CD insert, and a printable CD image, so you won't need a sharpie!
--from Dr. Spock's record room blogs

That's not Mouse talkin'! I been experienced so long I can "fool people all the time" like the Swami.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXFlGooUv6M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpaF9EnsGfA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpaF9EnsGfA
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 22, 2013 - 12:29pm PT
http://www.billirwinphotography.com/anti-war.htm#anchor1
Catholic protestant.
Catholic protestant.
Credit: Bill Irwin Photography
Protestant prodding.
Protestant prodding.
Credit: Bill Irwin Photography
Hey little schoolgirl, what's yer problem?
Hey little schoolgirl, what's yer problem?
Credit: Bill Irwin Photography

Have any of you ever been involved in protests? The idea is to get attention focused on a problem so that steps can be taken by enlightened ones to deal with the problem. Simple. Itís just that a few eggs may be broken, hearts, too, in the process.

My only experience (I like to tell myself I learn from some of them) with protest involved a march in San Francisco in like, 1969, maybe February or March. I was a newly-minted Bayarean and had been living in the east bay for months since moving out of Merced to El Cerrito and had been working for Red Barn making Big Barneys like at M.C. Donaldís and Rip-off Chicken like at the Colonelís. I still felt uncool because Iíd not experienced being hosed or beat with a baton, I guess. I felt the call, though, and took the bus over to Civic Center Plaza for the rally before the march.

The rally was both cool and short, all were eager to get on the streets, and I found myself in the group under the VVAW banners. We strode on out. Songs. Shouts of righteous anger. A joke here and there, at least two joints passed through my hands, probably more. No one remembered or knew that we ought to have water, and we got thirsty, and we walked to the Presidio from the Plaza.

Malvina was singing her protest song about Tungsten and the Gis stood in ranks, the Nationís Armyís finest, the Military Polizei (Pigs) assigned to the Presidio. Malvinaís insults about Wolframite and steel put them in a nasty frame of mind, likely. Some rocks flew over in their direction. This egged them on. They faced us from behind a high fence of steel rods. Our guys monkeyed onto them and the rank of MPs moved forward several paces, batons out, shoulders together, no shields.

But itís the same story, batons against buttons, fascism over flowers, fear and mistrust instead of peace and love and pot smoke. Sunshine falls on us all the same, my brothers. But this turned into an ugly, ugly scene in minutes, and it was unscripted action/reaction. I got the hell out of the area just as soon as I could when the MPs moved up. Not much in terms of satisfaction for me in this event, but I became more experienced.

And as a result I never went to another protest in my life.

The same for Altamont. It turned me off on concerts, more or less. It was the last one I attended.

People in herds seem to become stupider than usual, somehow.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Apr 22, 2013 - 12:38pm PT
Somehow the Sixties just keep rollin'





It must be finger poppin' time




mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 22, 2013 - 01:10pm PT
Just think what a fortune you could have made in the sixties by providing a tele-screen for folks to watch their records spinning while being played.

Or by providing rythym instruction for white children.

Bobby Darrin majored in finger-popping.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0201239/bio
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0201239/bio
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Apr 22, 2013 - 03:24pm PT
Hank got his doctorate, Bobby should have studied harder - but still can't get awy from those turntable vids



Bob and Bob got into it too




"The sheriff wants to know who's going to go to the bathroom and where"

Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Apr 22, 2013 - 05:02pm PT
I was remembering Layton Kor this morning after hearing of his death. He was the one who ushered in the 1960's for me when he invited me to his parent's place for dinner so we could see a special television program that night. It was the Ed Sullivan show featuring the Beatles, and their first performance in America. What a great way to start off the decade!
Captain...or Skully

climber
Apr 22, 2013 - 05:38pm PT
As I was born in '61, I figured everyone was just crazy. Kid thoughts, man. Buncha freaks runnin' around. Madness.
paul roehl

Boulder climber
california
Apr 22, 2013 - 06:09pm PT
With regard to the war and its effects:
"...And yet he understood the other side; he understood the context of an older generation's sense of duty and moral charge based on their experiences in World War II. He understood the fear they must have felt, the outrage, the patriotism, the terrible years of sacrifice, perhaps even hopelessness, their lives swept away by the conduct of an unspeakable enemy, distant and unknowable and ultimately evil. But he also knew there was no such enemy for him to fight, that his war would be waged in a litigious environment of doubtful actions and equivocation, for imprecise reasons championed by unsure politicians, capricious and narcissistic, with little real investment, expecting unquestioning sacrifice from the innocent, asking everything from those whose only real possession was their youth. He wouldn't conform his will to such a reckless commission despite the consequences and despite his self-doubt. But obsessive by nature he studied the matter without rest. He knew his own generation was spoiled with the wealth of its fathers, coddled and healthy as no other generation in the history of humanity, and its expectations had been raised to the point of pathological grandeur. In the face of this "the war" seemed outside of any foreseen possibility and appeared only to demonstrate a rancorous infliction of one generation upon another."
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 22, 2013 - 06:20pm PT
Have any of you ever been involved in protests?

I was born in 1950 and so was a teenager all through the 60s

as a student at the University of Minnesota from 1968-73 I marched and protested Vietnam

"we" were right to do so, and then Secretary of Defense McNamara later apologized for sending our boys to fight and die in Vietnam, he said it was wrong, at least he said it


While I strongly felt the "invasion" of Iraq was on very flimsy ground, I was too advanced in age to actually march or protest

guess I did my protesting at the voting booth
Gene

climber
Apr 22, 2013 - 08:01pm PT
Credit: Gene
RIP
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Apr 22, 2013 - 11:10pm PT
Hell yes I protested the war in Vietnam and I have never regretted it! If I was ever right about anything, it was how wrong that war was. That and backing the Civil Rights movement.

I started the 60's with Layton Kor and the Beatles and then I spent 1965-1969 in Berkeley with Frank Sacherer where we took part in many peace demonstrations. We switched our voter registration from Democratic to the Peace and Freedom Party and helped force Robert Kennedy to come out against the war just at the end of the Democratic primaries. Then we switched back. I also attended Black Panther rallies at Merritt Junior College in Oakland. It was the 60's after all, an era that began so innocently and ended in national suspicion and cynicism from which our nation has not yet recovered.

In my opinion, the Iraq war was more of the same - different people but similar cultural misunderstandings and political connivance, a mere generation later. This time I only protested at the ballot box. Each generation has or should have its causes. The greatest generation and the 60's generation did way more than their share. It's time for the younger folks to step up.

The political legacy of the 60's folks is secure.

donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 22, 2013 - 11:21pm PT
Yes the 60's.....i was out of the army after serving three years in the Special Forces and going to school in Philadelphia. Someone mentioned there was going to be a march on the Pentagon. We went down on a lark, i got seperated from my friends in the great surge forward and found myself in a group on the front lines that was mostly feminine. Draft card burning ensued and to make a favorable impression on my new lady friends i put a match to mine.
Right move....i got where i wanted to go. My recently concluded service did not become a topic of conversation. Free love in the 60's sometimes had a small price attached.
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