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Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Dec 1, 2014 - 02:33pm PT
Hi Gary,

I respect your point of view. But this reminds me of a conversation I had with my Bostonian sister recently (an Elizabeth Warren supporter.) She said "I cannot understand how we could have such different views when we are looking at the same facts." I said nothing since the answer is obvious.

You preface your posts, which describe terrible events involving shooters, with the title "Armed Citizens." I respectfully suggest you change that to armed criminals, or armed madmen. Something like that would be much more accurate.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Dec 1, 2014 - 02:52pm PT
Kris, just consider it my weak parody of the American Rifleman's The Armed Citizen column which touts all the good done by a heavily armed society. I disagree, obviously!

I grew up with BB guns and had a Glenfield .22 single shot at an early age, but think the NRA backed militarization of society bodes ill for all of us.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 1, 2014 - 03:02pm PT
So, Gary, your heart is obviously in a good place so I'll ask you the same
question which no gun control advocate ever answers cogently or coherently:

How you gonna go about disarming 200 million people?
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Dec 1, 2014 - 03:09pm PT
How you gonna go about disarming 200 million people?

3 Step Process:

1. Edit the Constitution to legalize gun control
2. Prohibit the private sale or exchange of any firearm.
3.Wait till legal firearm owners die and assess a 100% death tax on all firearms in the estate.

DMT
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Dec 1, 2014 - 03:12pm PT
"...the NRA backed militarization of society bodes ill for all of us."

AND HOW.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 1, 2014 - 03:16pm PT
DMT, I stipulated a "cogent or coherent" response.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Dec 1, 2014 - 03:18pm PT
Oh you mean like using MAD as a defense strategy?

DMT
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Dec 1, 2014 - 03:28pm PT
1. Edit the Constitution to legalize gun control

Gun control is already legal. Except for criminals and madmen.

The Constitution, thankfully, cannot be edited. Even with a pen and a phone.

The amendments you propose will certainly never be enacted.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Dec 1, 2014 - 03:48pm PT
An amendment is an edit. And never is a time category beyond both our pay grades. But I think curtailment is inevitable given the irresponsibility of the arms merchants.

DMT
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Dec 1, 2014 - 05:58pm PT
3 Step Process:

1. Edit the Constitution to legalize gun control
2. Prohibit the private sale or exchange of any firearm.
3.Wait till legal firearm owners die and assess a 100% death tax on all firearms in the estate.

DMT

Step one is not necessary. The Supreme Court ruled decades ago that the Federal Government's authority to levy taxes is valid even if that tax affects an activity that the government has no constitutional authority to regulate. I brought it up before and Madbolter nearly exploded.

TE
crankster

Trad climber
Dec 1, 2014 - 06:04pm PT
God stuff, Gary.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 1, 2014 - 06:13pm PT
Yep, paranoia fueled gun purchases give the NRA a wicked stiffy. Not a good sign for a supposedly civilized society however.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Dec 1, 2014 - 07:58pm PT
Reilly:
How you gonna go about disarming 200 million people?

Slowly. You'll have to wait a long time for most of the pieces to just rust away, unfortunately. But you got to start somewhere, even if it takes a century to have any effect.

Kris:
Gun control is already legal. Except for criminals and madmen.

That's the problem. Criminals and madmen have ready access to weapons. In large part due to the NRA attacking any reasonable attempt at gun control.

Bulletproof whiteboards? Really?

Ron:
OK ill ask ya Gary,, how exactly have you been threatened by any legally armed citizen in your life?

Yeah, at one of those rest area plazas on the east coast toll roads, which suck big time BTW (yay freeways!), one of those open carry as#@&%es was strutting around with a piece. I got the f*#k outta there.
crankster

Trad climber
Dec 1, 2014 - 08:36pm PT
The NRA are the Merchants of Death.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Dec 1, 2014 - 08:52pm PT
LOL... you guys are too much... NRA="merchants of death"....

Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Dec 2, 2014 - 05:50am PT
The Chief, have some reading comprehension problems, do you? Cerro Coso Community College has an Introduction to Philosophy Class. Those intro courses usually have a discussion of logic at some point. Might do you some good, amigo.

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This course introduces philosophical ideas and methods concerning knowledge, reality and values. Topics of instruction include the sources and limits of knowledge, and the nature of reality. The course also covers the philosophical perspective of the nature of the self, truth, ethics, religion, science, language, beauty and art, political theory, and mind. Advisory: ENGL C070.

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Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Dec 2, 2014 - 06:38am PT
The Chief wrote:
These are the Gov't Agencies that Gary so willing allows to confiscate your once legal weapons that will be mandated to be taken away if Gary, Crankstar and all the other anti-gun loons have their way.

Like I said, the Chief, you have some reading comprehension problems. Could you please quote the post where I stated guns should be confiscated by the government. Thanks!

I'm serious about the philosophy class.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Dec 2, 2014 - 07:38am PT
Like I said, the Chief, you have some reading comprehension problems.

He reads just fine. Then he lies about what he read.

DMT
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 2, 2014 - 09:30am PT
Gary, well kept guns don't rust, but your faith is admirable. I love it
when I see the Sheriff on the telly bragging about taking "guns off the
streets" when they have those lame $100 Target gift cards for guns turned
in campaigns. Not a one of those guns turned in has ever been on the street.
What self-respecting hoodlum packs a single shot bolt action 22?
LOL!
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Dec 2, 2014 - 09:41am PT
Reilly, my plan counts on criminals and the mentally deranged to not have weapons maintenance as one of their top priorities.
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