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Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jan 20, 2015 - 08:54am PT
The Armed Citizen:
A 9-month-old baby boy died Monday after he was shot in the head by his 5-year-old brother in their grandfather's Missouri home, police said.

The 5-year-old found his grandfather's .22-caliber revolver in the bedroom and was playing with it when he ended up shooting his younger brother, said Nodaway County Sheriff Darren White. The baby was in a playpen in the same room and the bullet struck him in the head.

"He was apparently fascinated by the gun, as most young kids would be," White said.

The 9-month-old was flown to Children's Mercy Hospital in Kansas City, where he later died.

They should have given the kid a pencil. He'd be protected from assault, and his brother would still be alive.

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jan 20, 2015 - 11:16am PT
The Armed Citizen:
A Fresno teen accidentally shot himself Sunday as he tried to intimidate his ex-girlfriend and her new boyfriend, police said.

The teen fired half a dozen rounds into the air in front of a home at about 1:30 a.m. before the gun jammed, according to Fresno police.

He tried to clear the gun, and that's when he shot himself in the leg.

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 20, 2015 - 12:57pm PT
The Armed Citizen

For every (illegal) idiot like that, there are tens of millions of responsible gun owners not in the news in any particular year. Every day, day in and day out, they carry their guns without the slightest incident. More guns than cars, and all but the tiniest fraction being handled safely and responsibly. Tens and tens of millions of such people.

Hmm... why isn't the media reporting on those?

As quoted from, "U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year."

Hmm... why isn't the media reporting on those?

According to, "A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 3.5% of households had members who had used a gun 'for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere.' Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 1,029,615 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all 'military service, police work, or work as a security guard.'"

Hmm... why isn't the media reporting on those?

You would think that around a million legitimate self-protection uses per year would garner some positive attention. But, no, the few (and rare) idiots get all the attention. I wonder why that is....

You know, Gary, you would think that with all the good people that own guns and handle them responsibly every day, and with the demonstrable good they do (what I've cited above barely scratches the surface), the media (and YOU) would over time gain a more balanced perspective.

It appears not to be so.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jan 20, 2015 - 01:43pm PT
That's unjustifiably aggressive, like you said maybe they just didn't see you, but if they are shooting towards the highway then they are idiots.

Credit: Piton Ron
That thing at the top fires 37mm smoke grenades.

Just the ticket.

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2015 - 02:39pm PT
jonnyrig, werk on yer trundling skillz.

Trad climber
Jan 20, 2015 - 03:02pm PT
I'm a strick constructionist. I believe every American has the right to keep and bear arm as part of a well regulated militia -- as long as the Arms are what the founding fathers were discussing.

So, everyone has the right to have a single shot black powder flintlock they can take off the wall if called.
Sredni Vashtar

Social climber
out in front
Jan 20, 2015 - 04:18pm PT
I like that HK. 45 carbine toker, they are a nice shooter

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jan 28, 2015 - 07:56am PT
The Armed Citizen:
You'd better well leave a good tip!

This is sad though:
Owner Lauren Boebert, a 28-year-old former Miss Junior Colorado and self-described born-again Christian, insists the guns are no gimmick.

"It's a way of life. When you walk into Shooters you are walking into America," she said, a compact Ruger 9-millimeter tucked into the small of her back. "This is what America is."

Would Jesus approve?
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Jan 28, 2015 - 07:59am PT
American MuscularChristianity defined. The Prince of Peace my ass.

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 28, 2015 - 08:16am PT
I don't know if Jesus would sign off on it, Gary, but every joint I ever worked the bartender was armed more often than not.

You just couldn't see it.

Except in Alaska. I kept the House Revolver there on the back bar - right next to the guns belonging to my customers. It was too f*#king big to carry around inside.

During the L.A. Riots ( the '92 one, there have been a few others ), my boss called a staff meeting to ask who owned a gun, and then suggest we all start bringing guns to work.

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jan 28, 2015 - 09:13am PT
I don't know if Jesus would sign off on it, Gary, but every joint I ever worked the bartender was armed more often than not.

Yep. I was at the Circle R Bar one night when this guy, having an argument with another customer, pulls out a gun. The bartender would have none of that. The bartender grabbed his gun from behind the bar and gave it to the other guy.

Social climber
So Cal
Jan 28, 2015 - 10:35am PT
After he answered a knock at his front door, things went downhill fast for a 22-year-old Florida college student.

Two men barged into his Orlando apartment Tuesday afternoon, and while one ransacked the place, the other forced him to the floor while pointing a gun at his head, WKMG-TV reported.

But the student’s roommate — a fellow University of Central Florida student — went to her bedroom, got her own gun and pointed it at the robbers, who fled, investigators told WESH-TV.

And the perp who had the piece? He dropped it before running off — and it turned out to be not quite as lethal as hers.

“She brought a gun to a pellet gun fight,” Lt. Paul Hopkins of the Orange County Sheriff’s Office told WESH.

Authorities searched the area with K-9s and a helicopter but couldn’t find the culprits.

“Typically, we ask people to comply with the orders of the robber,” Hopkins said. “That way they just get the product and get out. But on this occasion, obviously, the female felt that she had an advantage over them, was able to get her real gun and get these two bad guys out of her apartment.”

Deputies described the two suspects as black males in their early 20s, WKMG noted. Neither of the students were hurt, sheriffs said.

Unlocked apartments 3 miles away were burglarized Monday while students slept inside, WKMG reported, but it’s not clear whether those incidents are related to what happened Tuesday.

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Feb 3, 2015 - 08:27am PT
The Armed Citizen:
A father and mother in Albuquerque may face felony child-neglect charges after their 3-year-old boy found a gun in his mom's purse and shot his parents in a squalid hotel room, a police spokesman said Sunday.

The pair were wounded by the same bullet in the apparently accidental shooting at the Americas Best Value Inn in Albuquerque on Saturday afternoon, police spokesman Simon Drobik told the Los Angeles Times. The mother is eight months pregnant, Drobik said, and the couple also have a 2-year-old girl.

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Feb 3, 2015 - 09:42am PT
938 is single action....

And my brand new one has been back at Sig for over a month... dropped the mag randomly...

So hold off for now!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 3, 2015 - 10:56am PT
Surprised to hear that about a Sigg.

I love my 938 (and yes, it is single action only).
About the only thing I would like is to drop the ambi-safety.

But where the hell have you guys been all year? The hot round now is the .300 Blackout.

A 7.62 mm bullet on a case that loads into standard AR mags (albeit at slightly reduced capacity), and can shoot a 220gr subsonic round

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Feb 3, 2015 - 11:29am PT
... oldschool tech that ought to make the anti-gunners feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

Well played, sir. :-)
frank wyman

Mountain climber
Feb 3, 2015 - 11:47am PT
I am on the fence about buying a "SlideFire" stock for my AR15. They have came down in price some but still around $260..anybody bought one of these? Are they worth it just to burn ammo? Or are they just a stupid waste of money..Cheap knockoffs can be had from $99.95...
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 3, 2015 - 11:48am PT
Not all of us have money to burn.

What are the benefits of this hot new round? Didn't you buy one? What's the effective range? How are the ballistics? How will it compliment the average shooter's arsenal?

Jonny, I am hoping to convert my arsenal into a business asset this year, so it isn't "burning" it is depreciating, and I can write it off.

As I said, it is a 7.62 round, and at 220gr it has 4 times the mass of the standard 55gr 5.56mm. This means far better penetration and energy, but with a suppressor is whisper quiet.
Yeah, I bought a Midwest Industries and am still fitting it out.
Effective range about 300m. Then it drops like a rock.

It is an effective CQB round that can tear through light armor better than a 5.56, but does not require a whole new set of hicap mags.

Frank, I haven't installed my SlideFire yet, but am hopeful that it will be like my Suomi, a racehorse that you only need loose the reins a tad and she runs like the wind.

Big Wall climber
Kalispell, Montanagonia
Feb 3, 2015 - 02:21pm PT
Kims 9mm
Kims 9mm
Credit: xtrmecat

Like this one?

Two comments, it is a very small piece and is hard to use repeatedly with my largish peter pullers. It is single action only, but takes hp ammo just as reliably as ball.

This is my wife's, but I have taken it to the range and other than size found its function is pretty dang good.

Highly recommend, for a small piece.

Burly Bob

Edited to add, Still no incidents or accidents and lately carrying two pieces everywhere I go. Can it be I am an anomolly? Yeah, I didn't think so either.

Trad climber
Feb 3, 2015 - 02:55pm PT
States With Most Gun Deaths Have High Gun Ownership And Weak Gun Laws, Report Shows

It seems like a relatively obvious equation: The weaker the gun laws and the higher the rate of gun ownership in a given state, the more deaths from gun violence that state will see.

That's the conclusion of a report released Thursday by the Violence Policy Center, a nonprofit organization that researches the public health impact of gun violence.

Alaska has the highest rate of gun fatalities in the country, according to data from 2013. The state saw 19.59 deaths per 100,000 people, which is significantly above the national average of 10.64 deaths per 100,000. VPC's report indicates that Alaska also has the country's third-highest rate of gun ownership, with firearms in 60.6% percent of households.

The study found a similar correlation between gun ownership and gun deaths in the rest of the country. Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi and Wyoming, the states that followed Alaska in terms of highest gun death rates, had some of the nation's largest percentages of households owning guns.

VPC also noted that states with weaker gun laws tend to see higher gun death rates. All five states named above have gun restrictions that the report's authors describe as "lax."

The study defined states with weak gun laws as those that don't add extra provisions to federal gun laws, such as banning assault weapons or requiring a permit to buy a gun. In addition, states with open or concealed carry laws were considered to have weak gun restrictions.

States with the lowest gun death rates -- the top three were Hawaii, Massachusetts and New York -- were found to have strong gun laws as well as low rates of gun ownership. A separate 2013 analysis from the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence similarly found that these three states were among those with the strongest gun restrictions in place.

A number of previous studies have linked gun laws and gun ownership with deaths by gun violence, challenging the "more guns, less crime" hypothesis that suggests a higher rate of gun ownership makes communities safer. The Violence Policy Center published a similar study last year, using data from 2011. According to the two studies, between 2011 and 2013, the five states with the highest percentages of gun-owning households saw a noticeable spike in gun deaths per 100,00 residents.

Another recent report from researchers at Johns Hopkins and Stanford Universities found a positive link in all 50 states between right-to-carry laws and a rise in violent crimes.

States have a great deal of autonomy when it comes to gun laws. It is up to individual states to determine whether to perform background checks, what types of weapons and ammunition can be sold and where firearm owners can bring their guns.

Hawaii, the state that had the fewest gun deaths in 2013, has only 9.7 percent gun ownership and a gun death rate of 2.71 out of 100,000. Yet VPC's analysis noted that those numbers are still far higher than in many industrialized countries. For instance, in the UK, where very few people own guns and do so under tight restrictions, the gun violence death rate in 2013 was 0.23 deaths per 100,000.

The 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, focused global attention on America's gun crisis and resulted in a pledge from President Barack Obama to work to remedy the situation. Since then, however, Americans have stockpiled more ammunition and firearms than before amid weakened gun laws in many states.
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