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Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Apr 13, 2015 - 09:04am PT
Will the NRA Ever Stop Lying?
by Dean Obeidallah

In 2008, the NRA Wayne LaPierre honcho said Obama was going to confiscate guns. Now, Hillary wants to. The lies will never end.

“They are coming to take your guns away!” That was the message from this past weekend’s annual NRA Convention. In fact, it’s the same message we have heard for years from the NRA. And just as it has been in the past, as it was this weekend, that message is a lie.

No one in the Obama administration or any Democratic administration has ever tried to take law-abiding citizens guns away. Even when President Bill Clinton signed into law the assault weapons ban in 1994, which expired in 2004, it “grandfathered in weapons and ammo clips produced or purchased before the enactment of the ban.”

There are now nearly 300 million guns in the United States. It would be impossible to take even a fraction of those guns away from people. And more importantly, the government can’t, because the United States Supreme Court in 2008 interpreted the Second Amendment as bestowing a personal constitutional right to own a firearm.

The NRA knows all this. But still, look at the scare tactics it employed this weekend at its convention in Nashville.

For starters, the motto for this year’s convention was: “If they can ban one, they can ban them all.” So fear was the very slogan. Then, the NRA’s Executive Vice President and CEO Wayne LaPierre upped the fear factor by telling the attendees: “There's no telling how far President Obama will go to dismantle our freedoms and reshape America into an America that you and I will not even recognize.” Now even assuming Obama wanted to somehow “dismantle our freedoms,” as LaPierre claims, how could Obama do that in the final 18 months of his presidency when the Republicans control the Senate, the House, and the Supreme Court?

He can’t, and the NRA knows that. But facts don’t matter when you are trying to scare people (and get their money). In fact, they often get in the way.

Now scaring people (aka lying) about Obama is nothing new for the NRA. It started even before he took office. While Obama was campaigning for president in 2008 he stated that the Second Amendment bestowed a personal right to own guns and that he “will protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport, and use guns.”

Pretty clear, right? But the NRA publicly claimed that Obama wanted to “ban use of firearms for home self defense” and “ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.” That was simply and utterly a fabrication by the NRA.

Unsurprisingly after Obama was elected, we saw a massive spike in gun sales. As one gun store owner put it shortly after Obama won, “I have been in business for 12 years, and I was here for Y2K, September 11, Katrina... we did notice a spike in business, but nothing on the order of what we are seeing right now.”

And the NRA’s lies about Obama continued. For example, in 2011 the NRA claimed that Obama’s “true intention is to destroy the Second Amendment in our country.” And during Obama’s reelection campaign in 2012, the NRA sent out a fundraising letter that claimed Obama’s re-election would result in the “confiscation of our firearms.”

Does the NRA lie in an effort to help gun manufacturers sell firearms? After all, estimates are that gun manufactures have ponied up between$20 million and $50 million in contributions to the NRA since 2005. Or is it because the NRA needs an enemy to rally its supporters behind? Or a little of both?

Regardless of the reason, the NRA is now pivoting from Obama to Hillary Clinton. LaPierre stated at this weekend’s convention that Clinton “has been coming after us for decades...Hillary Clinton hasn’t met a gun control bill that she couldn’t support.”

LaPierre then warned, in Game of Thrones-esque terms, that “Hillary Rodham Clinton will bring a permanent darkness of deceit and despair forced upon the American people to endure.” After hearing that, I almost want to buy a gun. And no doubt we can expect even more outlandish rhetoric and unabashed lies from LaPierre directed at Clinton as the 2016 race heats up.

Not to be left out, Ted Cruz joined the fear mongering with his statement to the NRA attendees that “if Hillary Clinton is going to join with Barack Obama and the gun grabbers and come after our guns, then what I say is come and take it.”

Just the concept of “gun grabbing” makes me laugh. After all, Congress couldn’t even muster the votes needed in 2013 to pass universal background checks for gun purchasers and that had the support of 90 percent of Americans. And that bill failed only a few months after the horrific shooting spree at Sandy Hook Elementary School that left 26 dead, including 20 children.

The reality is that while LaPierre and his cronies have been weaving fabulous tales of impeding gun grabbing, Republican-controlled state legislatures have been weakening gun safety laws. For example, just last year, Republicans in Georgia passed the “guns everywhere bill” that makes it legal to carry guns in bars, school zones, and parts of airports. And 11 states in recent years even passed laws intended to nullify federal gun safety laws under the guise of “firearm freedom.” (Think “religious liberty” but for guns.)

No mention of that truth by LaPierre. Or worse, no mention of the truth that every day 30 Americans are murdered by gun violence and 53 Americans uses guns to commit suicide.

You would think the NRA would make it a priority to reduce the number of Americans killed by firearms. Instead, it appears that the NRA’s priority is lying.

Apr 13, 2015 - 09:15am PT

The best yet .....

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Apr 13, 2015 - 09:25am PT
Dying laughing!

Stop, please stop.

Some of you guys clearly don't realize that humor can be a deadly weapon, and you are irresponsibly employing it as such.

Werner, the anti-tank rifle.... ROFL. And the iGun... yikes! Killer!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Apr 13, 2015 - 09:59am PT
Actually, Reilly is a good damn shot.

Having seen The Beast (highly recommended film based on a stage play about Pashtunwalli) I would have to agree with Joe about Afghani women, but we ain't no suburbanites. We're just tired of hiding the bodies.

I like how the guy in Werner's photo is about to get his pants blown off by the muzzle blast of the compensator on that barrel behind him.

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Apr 13, 2015 - 10:10am PT
I've never figured out why some people post a link to an article and then cut and paste the exact same article into the text below...

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Apr 13, 2015 - 10:22am PT
^Most likely so that someone can check to see if the pasted text has been altered in anyway. Kind of a backup, failsafe maneuver. Who do you trust?

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals is about to reconsider whether the mere assertion of a need for self-defense is sufficient for a permit to carry concealed firearms.

Who would disagree that these fellows should be allowed to carry concealed weapons? Would you like to meet one? They probably feel that they have a need for self-defense (though some might qualify on the premise that they carry large sums of cash and/or are stalked).

as Popeye used to say "happy hunting".

Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Apr 13, 2015 - 10:28am PT
fear (poor name choice)

Because NO ONE would read the article if it was just a link
the link is for reference only, and to indicate that I did not write the material, to give the author the recognition for legal purposes and so on

it is an opinion piece that is very true, would you not agree?

I don't follow links for articles, do you?

I could never figure out why folks don't get that,
well most do get it.

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Apr 13, 2015 - 10:51am PT
I do follow links for articles.... kind of the whole point of "links"...

Sometimes if there are a few salient points to my argument I'll cut n' paste a few lines below said pasted "link"

Just helps to streamline things. Not that we really can streamline a thread with 6,000+ posts....


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