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Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 22, 2013 - 11:24pm PT
It's ok that you are ignorant Norton. Nothing to be ashamed of.

oh not ashamed of being ignorant of all the many kinds of gun out there, Pud

I just have four handguns and a CCL, so far from being as knowledgable as you
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
May 23, 2013 - 02:54pm PT

You left out the part that they had a pistol (I thought they were like snakes in Ireland in Britain?) as well as a cleaver, an arsenal of knives and were on a rampage for 20 minutes, because the cops had to wait for someone to show up with a gun.

They killed ONE person, injured nobody else, and neither did the cops, because those weapons-carrying cops are properly trained.
More than likely the "handguns" were replicas, or at the very least limited in ammo, because they couldn't just walk in to buy bullets in Wal-mart.

TE



TGT

Social climber
So Cal
May 23, 2013 - 03:14pm PT
http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2013/05/23/911-dispatcher-tells-woman-about-to-be-sexually-assaulted-there-are-no-cops-to-help-her-due-to-budget-cuts/


Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 23, 2013 - 03:45pm PT
TGT said:

"We should not base our laws on personal dislikes"

yet, that is exactly what the party you vote for wants

your party, TGT, wants to pass laws doing prohibiting same sex marriage for example

and pass laws forcing women to give birth to the babies of their rapists

just because your party "don't like it"

get it yet?
frank wyman

Mountain climber
montana
May 23, 2013 - 04:36pm PT
Some guy just got killed in a home invasion here yesterday, Don't know if "Castle Doctrine" will apply. Story at helenair.com under local news..The comments section seem to be the prevailing thoughts around here.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
May 29, 2013 - 09:25pm PT
These nut jobs give a bad name to responsible gun owners.















Everybody knows that Bloomberg, who tried to ban black rifles, should be shot by one of those pink ARs.
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
May 29, 2013 - 11:32pm PT
These nut jobs give a bad name to responsible gun owners

Only while many responsible gun owners and their major mouthpiece insist that the second amendment bestows the right to use violence to achieve the overthrow of a democratically elected government.

TE





tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
May 30, 2013 - 12:24am PT
drone them shoot them, gas them. Killing is the american way to solve problems.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
May 30, 2013 - 12:27am PT
Leave it to a dentist to suggest gassing them...
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
May 30, 2013 - 01:07pm PT
It wasn't just Bloomberg.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/30/us/obama-suspicious-letter/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Curious to see how the NRA distances itself from these events.

TE
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 30, 2013 - 09:58pm PT
not related to the second amendment

but I remember the national guard firing live bullets and killing college students at Kent St.

absolutely, our military in any of its forms will, on order, kill americans right here
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
May 30, 2013 - 11:40pm PT
What we got ourselves here is a certified slab of hamburger grade meat head on our hands.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 30, 2013 - 11:47pm PT
well,

I thank President Obama for signing into law that I as a CCL holder can carry into the national parks in my state

I also thank him for signing into law that I can now carry on Amtrak trains

The Republicans with Bush had eight god dam years to get those into law and did NOT

Obama did them both in his first two years


I voted for ACTION on my second amendment rights, not dum ful bull sh!t talk

and I got it

so shut your ignorant right wing fuking mouth
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
May 31, 2013 - 01:53am PT
Fascinating how many nerves you hit referring to male inadequacy issues, and the obvious gun ownership corollary

Hard to imagine how such deep-seated shame could also be too overwhelming to even try to conceal

Are you saying that the American Patriots who stood up to and defeated the mightiest army and navy of the day had male inadequacy issues because they demanded the right to bear arms? And what is this bs about shame?
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
May 31, 2013 - 02:36am PT
Merely that it's interesting to contrast and compare the completely different reasons why they, and you, need guns.

Theirs was practical, yours psychological.

Who are you to say why I want or need guns? My "need" is psychological? I don't think so.
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
May 31, 2013 - 11:43am PT
My question is, who in the US military would obey an order to open fire on Americans on American soil. Really, over the 2nd amendmt?

Ignoring the jurisdiction issue, if the nut who mailed ricin to the President follows up on his threat to shoot anyone who comes after him in the face, how many in the military would have the slightest problem shooting back?

A significant bunch of gun-nuts violently opposing the (mostly) democratically elected government (i.e. opening fire on American police or soldiers on American soil) would be just about the best thing gun-control advocates could ever hope for. It is however, not going to happen.

TE
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 31, 2013 - 12:29pm PT
they got high and vegged out at the ALAMO?

WTF are you talking about?
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
May 31, 2013 - 12:38pm PT
All it would really take is one or two barricaded gun nut compounds getting taken out (in a few seconds) by an Apache gunship, allowing people to actually see how effective armed insurrection against the gov't really is, and the whole NRA/gun industrial complex would collapse overnight

I don't see it that way, such an unprovoked act would bolster their conspiracy theory, and get significant justified public sympathy and support. Of course, like the imaginary patriotic insurrection, the unprovoked preemptive assault won't happen either.

They can barricade themselves wherever they want, for as long as they want, the longer the better, but in the non-paranoid real world, the apaches would never be sent in until the the gun-nuts start killing to impose their view. At that point, the public would overwhelmingly support sending in those helicopters, followed soon by a constitutional amendment to eliminate any doubt that the constitution does not entitle anyone to conspire to overthrow the government.

TE
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
May 31, 2013 - 12:47pm PT
jghedge writes:

"All it would really take is one or two barricaded gun nut compounds getting taken out (in a few seconds) by an Apache gunship, allowing people to actually see how effective armed insurrection against the gov't really is..."




We're trying out your theory right now in Afghanistan - like a university study. And it looks as if you've been proven wrong, in the real world. The overnight collapse you speak of is taking more than ten years! Sure it sounds good, but in practice, we see otherwise.

I might add, Afghanistan is largely populated by illiterate cave men.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
May 31, 2013 - 12:52pm PT
You wouldn't have a link to one of those sites, would you?
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