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TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 25, 2013 - 11:42pm PT
Jim Carrey NAILS IT

An idiot,

that makes his living

pretending to be

an even bigger idiot.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 26, 2013 - 12:44pm PT
Big man starts a fight he can't finish, then fires his gun.

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 26, 2013 - 01:05pm PT
That ^ guy is a fuking pussy. Sucker punching someone like that... then pulling a gun... fuking pussy.



I assume that is how it happens in Mexico too.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 26, 2013 - 01:18pm PT
ahhh, Andrew K Dart... now THERE'S a credible source!



How many of those involved large capacity magazines?

How many required the ability to purchase 1 gun a month?

How many would have not been possible without stricter background checks?
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 26, 2013 - 01:19pm PT
Dart would probably count the guy above as thwarting a crime.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 26, 2013 - 01:23pm PT
Exactly mono!


Ron, ignore the radicals like hedge for a minute. Nobody in their right mind is proposing to take guns intended for self-defense away from legal, responsible gun owners. Answer the following:

How many of those involved large capacity magazines?

How many required the ability to purchase 1 gun a month?

How many would have not been possible without stricter background checks?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 26, 2013 - 01:27pm PT
Ron, sucker punching someone is bullsh#t... pulling a gun when you start losing the fight you started makes you a pussy... sorry you can't see/accept that.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 26, 2013 - 01:28pm PT
He and the wife are already charged, Anderson.

Funny how you can't see that.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 26, 2013 - 01:36pm PT
You couldn't decide for yourself unless he was charged?

Without the video, it would have been 'he said, she said'.

None of the thousands of gun owners i know have ever sold a gun to someone who couodnt have one legally

Such dumbass hyperbole.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 26, 2013 - 01:37pm PT
The guy, having a ccw permit broke about every guidline for that permit. His actions do not represent the millions of CCW holders out there.

true

but how did you know he had a CCL?

I didn't see anything in the video to indicate that, but I did not have the sound on, did he say that?

was there some news reporting afterward or something?
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 26, 2013 - 01:38pm PT
Really, Anderson. If you were shown that video, each side claiming to be innocent, you couldn't form an opinion?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 26, 2013 - 01:45pm PT
mag capacitys have little or nothing to do with anything.. 1.5 seconds per reload of a mag, that is ALL.

They appear to help slaughter innocent children when psychos get a hold of them. But, since they have little or nothing to do with anything, why would you be opposed to limiting mag capacity?

None of the thousands of gun owners i know have ever sold a gun to someone who couodnt have one legally.

You know thousands of people well enough to say, with absolute certainty, that they have never sold a gun to someone who couldn't have one legally? Would you be willing to testify on their behalf in the event they were accused of such an action?

Back ground checks and state run agencies have been doing a good job of denials- this happens frequently..Keeping arms away from the criminal element is a GOOD idea. However, the crminal element does not follow this logic at all.

It has been well established where most guns used in crimes come from. They don't come from Mexico, China, or Canada. They come from gun shops in the good ol USA.

The criminal element follows the logic of the system very effectively. Someone with a clean record who is willing to buy a gun a month and sell it can make bank.

How many of those thousands of gun owners you know buy 12 new guns a year?




just making an assumption

as always


He should have NEVER shot a warning round either.

Warning shot...hahahaaaaa... if he did shoot, it was purely by ACCIDENT as he was holding the gun in both hands (0:19). But I don't think he did... sounded more like a car door slamming to me, but I'm no gun expert....hahahahahaaaaa



http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57576310/road-rage-video-leads-to-n.c-couples-arrest/


This just in:
"The two men stop the beating when Turner's wife, Christy Marie Turner, exits their vehicle with a gun and hands it to her husband, who then allegedly fired shots into the other car. The shooting was not caught on tape."
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 26, 2013 - 01:49pm PT
Well Ron,

a LOT more people carry guns than have a CCL for them

here in New Mexico we have open carry law

but that guy pulled it ouf from under his jacket or shirt

so I can see why you might guess he had a CCL to carry concealed legally

but I sure wouldn't assume it
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 26, 2013 - 01:58pm PT
How many guns do you buy a year ron?


A woman then calmly walks out of the SUV and gives the man a pistol. He points it at the men who beat them up, who hurry into the pickup and drive away as the man fires several shots.

As monolith pointed out, without the video this would have been one of the many cases where a CCW was reported to have thwarted a crime.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 26, 2013 - 02:00pm PT
NOW MANY TIMES per year does a ccw holder thwart a crime.??


I suppose there is no way for sure to know but my guess is quite a few times

but no one here is talking about taking guns away from CCW holders

in fact other than Joe Hedge, no one is talking about confiscating any guns at all
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 26, 2013 - 02:00pm PT
EXACTLY what Norton said.
WBraun

climber
Mar 26, 2013 - 02:06pm PT
I need to buy a gun.

I'm afraid of these anti-gun nuts.

They might do something .......
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Mar 26, 2013 - 02:17pm PT
but no one here is talking about taking guns away from CCW holders

in fact other than Joe Hedge, no one is talking about confiscating any guns at all

You might be being naive about some of the anti gun rights people.

Sen Dianne Feinstein stated very clearly just last year that if she thought she could get the votes she would take away all the guns.

Barack Obama stated in plain English "I don't think that people should be able to own guns." Of course he was a law professor when he said that, but do you really think his core views have changed?

There are a lot of people in government who would confiscate all the guns in public hands if they could.

frank wyman

Mountain climber
montana
Mar 26, 2013 - 02:21pm PT
Beware of the man with only eight rounds....He may be scared enough to make them count!...M1 Garand..
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 26, 2013 - 02:30pm PT
The vast majority of defensive gun uses (DGUs) do not involve killing or wounding an attacker, with government surveys showing 108,000 (NCVS) to 23 million (raw NSPOF) DGUs per year, with ten private national surveys showing 764,000 to 3.6 million DGU per year.

Average government estimate of DGUs: 12 million, +/- 11 million

Average private estimates of DGUs: 2.2 million, +/- 1.4 million

I know you aren't much for statistics, but in general, if your uncertainty is close to your estimate, you might want to be a little cautious about the conclusions you draw from your data.

How many of those were similar to the video posted above, but not caught on video? You saw the video and you still couldn't decide if the gun owner was in the wRong.

up to 23 million times a year

Or as low as 108,000



Barack Obama stated in plain English "I don't think that people should be able to own guns."

Reference needed for direct quotes attributed to others.
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