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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 15, 2013 - 07:54pm PT
If its ONE, and its yourself,, THAT is all that matters now isnt it.
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 07:59pm PT
Joe, it's fun to poke a little fun at you only because you think all gun owners are gun nuts. Similarly, gun owners could say all reasonable gun control advocates are like yappy little poodles, when in truth only gun outlawing and confiscation nuts such as yourself are like yappy little poodles.
WTF

climber
Feb 15, 2013 - 08:11pm PT
Listen Hedge while you can spin it all you want anyway you want Gross negligence is gross negligence if its a gun or a car or.....

If the people of this country keep giving up their rights freely because some f*#king wack job does something like that asshat in Con. then we will eventually end up with no rights.

You live in California? Those dip shits are the model for america to come look at Prop 30 you create a welfare state and then you introduce legislation to screw hard working people out of their money so you can keep a bunch of people on the dole and you eventually get to pass everything you want because the majority of these lazy f*#ks sucking the tit will never bite the hand that feeds them.

Homeboy and his crew of sh#t birds can spray all the stimulus crap they want at everyone but in the end they are just buying time to tank the dollar create more dependency on the government and if given the chance take our guns i suppose but ill just ignore that and keep reloading, and buying supplies as needed until I have enough to make sure me and my family will be able to take care of ourselves and not be dependent on any government. Do I think the 1% could and should pay a little more sure they have it, the 1% made 11% INCREASE ON THEIR WEALTH Last year.

George f*#king Sorros made a billion dollars last year f*#king with the currency rate at the expense of all of us so do the math and understand whats really going on.

Ok Superretards see ya at the cliff, ill be the guy telling you to get your f*#king dog off my rope and take that tofu sh#t smelling sandwich and stuff it up your a*#.

Good day!
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 08:13pm PT
Joe, this is not the United Kingdom. Recognizing that might make you look less uninformed, and less frothing at the mouth crazy.
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 08:16pm PT
So Joe, how about some compromise? What do you think of universal background checks, and development of smart gun technology, which would limit the enabled guns to firing only in the hands of the background checked owner?

WTF

climber
Feb 15, 2013 - 08:28pm PT
Monkeys always seem to figure out the lock whether its key's or combo's.







Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 15, 2013 - 08:34pm PT
Finger print recognition of owner on gun maybe?
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 08:35pm PT
Norton, I was thinking base of thumb print has to be in contact and read for the gun to fire. If someone rips it out of your hand(s) it becomes disabled.

Or if your teenager gets ahold of it, or it's stolen, etc.
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 08:41pm PT
Joe, it's incongruous for you to think the NRA will be able to stop universal background checks and smartgun technology but they won't be able to stop outlawing guns altogether. And it's silly to think the outlawing of guns in this country is inevitable.

And by the way, the rate of gun murders in this country now is half what it was 20 years ago. Seems like a good trend that can be improved upon even more without abolishing the 2nd amendment.
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 08:55pm PT
Joe:

What would be your recommendation to get our gun deaths down to the level of countries that have outlawed them, without outlawing them?

Mine is to just let things continue along as they are, and guns will inevitably be banned

It's just as logical to think, that if we all do nothing then in sixty years our gun homicide rate will be what it is in Britain now, and guns won't have to be outlawed nor the 2nd amendment repealed.

If our gun homicide rate is halved every twenty years, then by 2074 (oops, I goofed, more like 2144) we will have the same gun homicide rate as the UK. Problem solved, if you think the world is a linear place, and you seem to be a big fan of linear thinking. This reality should make you very happy as you can achieve your goal of reaching the UK's gun homicide rate by doing what you plan to do, nothing.
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 09:10pm PT
Joe:

inadvertently, wingnut conservatives always do for their causes.

Just like when the wingnut conservatives rallied almost the entire country to support an unnecessary, immoral even, war in Iraq? Is that what you mean?
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 09:13pm PT
The rate of firearms-related murders in 2011 was 3.2 per 100,000 people a sharp decline from 1993 when the rate of firearms-related murders was 6.6 per 100,000 people.

http://nbcnews.to/R33m32
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 09:15pm PT
To use your parlance Joe, it's inevitable that reasonable people will look for reasonable ways to further accelerate the rate of decline in our gun homicide rate without outlawing guns and without repealing the 2nd amendment.
Sredni Vashtar

Social climber
The coastal redwoods
Feb 15, 2013 - 09:20pm PT
chaps, stop bringing the UK into it. Maybe Canada is a better choice for comparison.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 15, 2013 - 09:20pm PT
Look up the frequency of road rage incidents where people use vehicles as weapons, even on pedestrians or people in their own yards.

Hold on for the strawman sleigh ride! weeeee


Maybe Canada is a better choice for comparison.

Doesn't have the population density. Violent crime and population density are correlated. Which is why UK having 3x the population density (and, as expected, 3x the violent crime rate) but 1/3 the gun deaths says it all.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 15, 2013 - 09:21pm PT
Joe Hedge stated:
And the NRA is right - gun control laws don't work, they're instituted state-by-state, which means nothing.

really, Joe?

then explain to me WHY Alaska has THE loosest gun laws and THE highest gun death rate

and Massachusetts has THE toughest gun laws and THE lowest gun death rate


explain how "gun laws don't work", Joe, when confronted with directly 100% contradictory evidence that proves you WRONG

Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 09:22pm PT
That's an interesting graph and you make a good point. It's much more effective than frothing at the mouth.

Still, outlawing guns and and repealing the 2nd amendment is politically not feasible or realistic in this country. Better for reasonable realistic people to come up with reasonable and realistic solutions.

Guns will NEVER be outlawed in this country. Ever.
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 09:25pm PT
Dunno. Right now I'm off to sushi though. I'll debate later if you like. Other wise happy frothing.

D
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 15, 2013 - 09:28pm PT
What's the per capita gun ownership rate in those states? Any chance it correlates with higher/lower gun deaths?

you just defeated your own contention, Joe, not even a good try

think about it

the REASON for the direct correlation IS BECAUSE the stricter and looser gun laws ARE IN PLACE

Jesus, Joe

you are getting irrational, unreasonable, and blindly insistent in your "righteousness"

why if one did not know better one would take you for a "conservative"
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 15, 2013 - 09:30pm PT
Norton,, how does that FENCE feel in yer butt-crack? Its all gud as long as it doesnt interfere with YOUR particular gun tastes and rights - right?
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