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WTF

climber
Feb 15, 2013 - 04:52pm PT
Hedge while you think that's a failure by repubs it is not its what we law abiding gun owners want.

In fact it's a win for our country and its not a dem or repub victory. It's a win for the kids in Connecticut the Colorado families and anyone else who's been a victim of such violence.

All we gun owners want are fair laws that allow us to keep and buy the guns we want and keep them out of the hands of the mentally ill and the criminal.

You however keep driving a wedge between people and making people choose sides so we can continue to fall apart as a country and society with you repub and dem bullsh#t.

Like they say a repub doesn't want a gun he doesn't buy one a dem doesn't want one and therefore no one should have one.

Stupid fu king Americans
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:00pm PT
Its actually a win, with the CCW holders being exempt, a condition long sought after by many holders. No one i know is against good back ground checks.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:12pm PT
Maybe no one you personally know is against background checks, Ron

but did you know that the NRA IS?

they have a LOT of influence, lots of money, lawyers, and Washington lobbyists.

NRA officials handed out a flyer titled: "NO to 'Universal' Background Checks"
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/12/nra-ramps-up-campaign-against-background-checks/

edit: I think the above NRA kind of absolutism, no grey area, my way or the highway is the attitude that people like myself, Mechrist and others wish would change

The NRA has every right to teach little Timmy how to shoot his new BB gun, and has every right to represent the interests of responsible gun owners everywhere, all just fine

However, the NRA does strongly influence the thought processes of ten of millions of gun owners in addition to literally "owning" many of our politicians with their large cash contributions to their re election campaigns.

Here's the thing, the NRA would be doing itself a big favor and regaining a lot of lost credibility IF they would agree to support what their own NRA members support, and the membership supports Universal Background checks except to close knit blood relatives in private sales, the membership also supports much stronger electronic monitoring and Federal "policing" of grey area sales, instant data base checks, and the membership also supports reasonable limits on magazine size and "some" additional limits on what types of weapons the public can purchase.

If the NRA collects dues from its members which it does, and claims to "represent" its members, then yes, it ought to support the same things its own members support.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:37pm PT
Because nobody gets murdered in the UK by guns.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:40pm PT
Joe, I have said it before and with all due respect to you personally.

Your position to "ban" ALL guns is childish, unrealistic, and really ultimately serves only to establish your position, and thus you, as "extreme" and as emotionally unreasonable as the very people you rail against.

Honestly Joe, you weaken your credibility when you take such an unyielding and my way or the highway position, in fact you present the same black and white only extremism that you criticize your discussion opponents of embracing.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:41pm PT
Because nobody gets murdered in the UK by guns.

well Michael, good point!

out of a population of some 60 million, less than 100 people were killed by guns in 2012

thanks for pointing that out
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:41pm PT
Please provide any REASONABLE home defense scenario where the inability to own an assault weapon would have any likely effect on the outcome.
Look up the frequency of road rage incidents where people use vehicles as weapons, even on pedestrians or people in their own yards. Most handgun rounds bounce off windshields, as does birdshot.
And more and more criminals are stealing body armor and HTFU.
.223 rounds defeat IIA armor. In fact it renders the AR round MORE effective.






Dropline, in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king, but what are you going to feed it?


It is good to see WTF channeling Werner.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:46pm PT
A buddy of mine got an m1-A (308)in full competition set ups, supressor the hole nine..! 2500.00 Brand new. A spankin 500 yard gun!
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:48pm PT
Toker, .308 Win
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:49pm PT
Hows your supply?



















edit
Yeah, Ron, probably have 147gr "cheap" surplus @ $1.50 per
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:49pm PT
Major gun show in Reno tomorrow- 9:00 am opening. Be there EARLY for ammo...;-)



Ill be in the back rooms getting me some Shoulder mounteds,, pineapples, and C4...Muwaaaahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa
WTF

climber
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:50pm PT
Really hedge that's your example. Weak sauce man that f*#king psycho got to those guns because his stupid f*#king mom did not secure them from her f*#king nut job son plain and simple.
Good thing he shot her saved us a ton of money prosecuting her for her gross negligence.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:52pm PT
Tokey,, i sure HOPE KNOTT! But ya never know,, it will be interesting..
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 06:46pm PT
Toker, limited supply now of course but that will change over time, don't you think?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 15, 2013 - 06:56pm PT
all depends on when DHS, IRS, SS, and others STOP sucking them up by the millions.
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 07:05pm PT
I'm taking a very long view and feel no sense of urgency.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 15, 2013 - 07:12pm PT
i like to shoot...Frequently. As ANY CCW holder should to keep proficient as possible. So do many others. Its a weekend sport for millions at ranges across the country or up in the hills of countless states. I aint gonna pay a buck per round for anything. THE only reason that is is because manufactures are swamped with orders and half of those are gubbmint related orders.
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 07:19pm PT
I'm sure I will want to be very proficient as well. I don't mind that proficiency starting in a year though.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 15, 2013 - 07:40pm PT
Isn't he cute? He's like an angry puppy that runs around barking at you and biting at the bottom of your pants.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 15, 2013 - 07:47pm PT
Spot on Toker,, spot on...
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