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crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Feb 3, 2013 - 06:54pm PT
This had nothing to do with guns. Except it was the murder weapon. Again. http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Officials-say-Murphys-man-kills-sons-then-himself-4247397.php
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 3, 2013 - 07:01pm PT
thats bs Kenny. He was more than likely taken out by al-kay-duh..
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 3, 2013 - 07:02pm PT
guns don't kill people. people with guns kill people.
jghedge

climber
Feb 3, 2013 - 07:50pm PT
"thats bs Kenny. He was more than likely taken out by al-kay-duh."

Actually the gun nuts took him out - they know the more gov't snipers they take out now, the less they'll have to worry about later
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Feb 3, 2013 - 08:33pm PT
Ron-duh always blames al-kay-duh.
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Feb 3, 2013 - 09:40pm PT
Your point Riley?

What a tragedy! And with the vehicle theft this looks like a straight up robbery/ homicide.

The comments after the article illustrate just how clueless (not to mention heartless) many anti-gun libs are.

I am, quite frankly, surprised and insulted by your broad brush indictments.

Maybe he didnt have enough guns??
I mean if a trigger happy psychopath like this guy isn't safe than who is right?
He should have been carrying at least a couple more weapons - in my humble opinion - it is very sad..
abrams

Sport climber
Feb 3, 2013 - 09:44pm PT
Pull!! everyone needs a girl like this

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=NrwUxYwhJvE
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Feb 3, 2013 - 09:57pm PT
http://www.politicususa.com/bulletproof-left-paul-krugman-guts-nras-shred-intimidation.html

Bulletproof Left: Paul Krugman Guts the NRA’s Last Shred of Intimidation

By: Jason EasleyFeb. 3rd, 2013more from Jason Easley

Paul Krugman completely gutted the NRA, and in the process became the the latest example of the left’s absolute lack of fear of the gun lobby.

Here’s the transcript from ABC News:

KRUGMAN: But what really strikes me — I don’t know how this plays, you know, what will happen. What strikes me is we’ve actually gotten a glimpse into the mindset, though, of the pro-gun people and we’ve seen certainly Wayne LaPierre and some of these others. It’s bizarre. They have this vision that we’re living in a “Mad Max” movie and that nothing can be done about it, that America cannot manage unless everybody’s prepared to shoot intruders, that — the idea that we have a police forces that provides public safety is somehow totally impractical, despite the fact that, you know, that is, in fact, the way we live.
So I think that the terms of the debate have shifted. Now the craziness of the extreme pro-gun lobby has been revealed, and that has got to move the debate and got to move the legislation at least to some degree.


STEPHANOPOULOS: Are you comfortable with where the NRA has been on this?
BARLETTA: Yeah. I am. I mean, this is a perfect example why people believe Washington is broke. This horrific incident in Newtown, and here, what is our debate? It’s focusing on guns, when there is not one person at this table who really believes that that’s the root of what happened there. And when we have people that get into the mindset that they want to harm people, as a former mayor, I know people will get guns no matter what laws we pass, just like the illegal drug…
(CROSSTALK)
KRUGMAN: … just caught you on a false statement there, because at least I do believe that guns are the root. There are crazy people everywhere, but mass murders are a lot more common here than in countries with effective gun control.
BARLETTA: If you believe guns are more important than — than dealing with mental health and our culture — is our culture lending itself that we’re raising children that are desensitized to — to murder, to killing people?


(CROSSTALK)
KRUGMAN: I love that the international differences — countries that have effective gun control have a lot fewer incidents.
BARLETTA: We’re banning spoons stop obesity? Of course not.
KRUGMAN: Banning the large soda drinks…
RAMOS: There’s high tolerance for — for violence in this country. I mean, after Columbine, after Virginia Tech, after Aurora, we should have done something, and we haven’t. Sometimes it seems that it’s only minor changes that we’re talking about, even ban on assault weapons or background checks, or we’re talking about high-capacity magazines. I mean, we know what works. I mean, in Japan, it works. But as a country, I don’t think we are willing to even revisit the Second Amendment.
(CROSSTALK)
STEPHANOPOULOS: And then…
(CROSSTALK)
FIORINA: But Paul said something that…
(CROSSTALK)
RAMOS: We know exactly what works, but we don’t want to do it. We have to recognize that.
FIORINA: Paul said something that’s illustrative of what I meant when I said people overplay their hands. What Paul just did was lump everybody together as a crazy radical gun-owner.
KRUGMAN: Not true.
FIORINA: Yes. So you’re condemning people…
KRUGMAN: No, there are plenty of gun-owners who are fine. But the lobbying groups, the NRA is now revealed as an insane organization, and that matters quite a lot.
What we witnessing is the national destruction of the myth that the NRA has some sort of intimidating power that the left is afraid to challenge. The mainstream media has helped the NRA create this aura of power around itself that is being exposed as having never existed. When the White House released the picture of President Obama skeet shooting, they were sending a message to the NRA.

The White House isn’t going to back down. Democrats aren’t going to back down, and the majority of the country will not stand down until meaningful reform has been enacted to deal with gun violence. Krugman was right. The NRA has revealed itself to be a right wing fringe group, and their leadership is not representing the views of a the majority of gun owners in this country.

The NRA has been outed as nothing more than the tool of the gun manufacturers. They don’t represent gun owners anymore. The organization has become so entrenched in Republican politics that they actually endorsed the governor who signed the nation’s first assault weapons ban for president in 2012.

The NRA has no real power. They can bluster. They may be able to stop an assault weapons ban through the Republican members of Congress that they have bought and paid for, but they can’t stop the shifting opinion on their view that America is an all guns, all the time nation. The tide has shifted, and the NRA and their unpopular positions are being swept out to sea.

As Paul Krugman’s comments illustrated, no one is afraid of the NRA. They are just another group of corporate Republicans who have marginalized themselves with extremist views.

The reality is that the crazier the NRA gets, the closer this nation comes to real gun reform.
abrams

Sport climber
Feb 3, 2013 - 10:03pm PT
Credit: abrams
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Feb 4, 2013 - 07:59am PT
Am I the only one here pissed to hear that survivalist nut in Alabama was due to appear in court for shooting at a neighbors car, while a kid was inside, yet it's only A MISDEMEAONR!!!!
Only in gun-crazy land can you threaten someone by shooting their car, keep your guns while you await trial, and even if you were found guilty, it's not even a felony, so you'd still get to keep your guns.

TE
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 4, 2013 - 08:03am PT
Not true at all.. Norman Clyde shot up a high schoolers car while they were in it, wasnt charged..That,,in CALI..



edit: The DHS has ordered thousands of 5.56mm AR 15s . Now the strange thing is that THEIR classification of those weapons reads: "PERSONAL DEFENSE" weapons...NOT ASSUALT weapons..

Double standard?- Yes obviously..


And then ask WHY the dept of homeland security would be buying so many ARs and sucking up nearly ALL ammo being manufactured as of now. There is an obvious and concentrated effort to suck up all ammo, as none of it is available in the stores, and merchants simply say -they arent shipping us any thing.
jghedge

climber
Feb 4, 2013 - 09:14am PT
Credit: jghedge
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Feb 4, 2013 - 09:18am PT
It seems like after 4 tours in Iraq and 150 or 160 confirmed kills one would have had their fill of guns.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 4, 2013 - 09:21am PT
OMG Ron, you are absolutely right. That story is all over the right wing pigeon gun nut blogs. Why the hell does the Department of Homeland Security need to test up to 7,000 guns? You'd think they were in the business of like protecting boarders or something! I heard the Army is buying weapons too. WHAT ARE THEY UP TO!?!? I'm with you, I don't trust them... call the militia brothers... we need to get prepared!

The DHS SAYS they will be releasing the test results to law enforcement. Sounds a little fishy.

BTW, need ammo?

http://www.bulkammo.com/catalogsearch/result?q=ar15
WBraun

climber
Feb 4, 2013 - 09:25am PT
It seems like after 4 tours in Iraq and 150 or 160 confirmed kills one would have had their fill of guns.


Obviously you're not a warrior.

It's got nothing to do with guns.

The true warrior remains a warrior in this life and next.

Sometimes they elevate to Brahmana and when a need arises they again take to the warrior class.

The warrior class is the protection division ......
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Feb 4, 2013 - 09:29am PT
guess who just voted for armed guards in their elementary schools...


the board of education of NEWTOWN!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/newtown-board-requests-armed-guards-for-elementary-schools/2013/02/01/762b8e04-6cb2-11e2-8740-9b58f43c191a_story.html


brainwashed by the nra, i'm sure
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 4, 2013 - 09:30am PT
Well howzabout that. Gee a SIMPLE solution that will work..

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 4, 2013 - 09:34am PT
Maybe they should replace the soccer field with a shooting range and get a sniper...
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Feb 4, 2013 - 09:36am PT
The odds against this happening again in Newtown must be in the billions, even without the guards.


Make sure yer kids keep their hands outta their pockets and don't make any sudden moves.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Feb 4, 2013 - 09:41am PT
Obviously you're not a warrior.


yeah, yeah. Yawn. And you are I suppose? Anyway what the hell are you driving at? The warrior is our superior?

What exactly are you driving at oh Obe Wan Kenobe?

Only a moron by now dosn't realize that the warrior class belongs in the army, directed by and answerable to our government, answerable (at leat in theory) to the people.

The warrior class designation is not broadly distributed to any tom dick or harry who can buy a machine gun out of a catalogue. Unless you are a stupid american, that is huh Werner?
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