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frank wyman

Mountain climber
montana
Mar 22, 2013 - 03:49pm PT
Ammunition is getting scarce...This morning I lucked out and was able to buy several cases of ammo. On the way home I stopped at a gas station where a gorgeous lady was filling up her tank.She looked at the ammo in my car and said in a very sexy voice "Im a big believer in Bartering, would you be interested in trading sex for ammo?"...I thought a few seconds and asked..."What kind of ammo you got"...
A5scott

Trad climber
Chicago
Mar 22, 2013 - 04:02pm PT
I don't imagine legislation to limit the number of sales to 1 per person/year ever passing. Talking about that seems about as useful as asking what if we woke up and the world was made of chocolate. questions never hurt nonetheless.

seems like the punishment isn't a huge deterrent for straw buyers... 2.5 yrs or so max 10. There has to be a way so person to person sales can exist, while at the same time being able to check the status of buyer and seller.

scott
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Mar 22, 2013 - 04:04pm PT
"I know what straw buyers are Norton,"

Credit: apogee
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 22, 2013 - 04:28pm PT
Haha, you didn't 'win' against the assault weapon ban. It was always a long shot.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 22, 2013 - 04:31pm PT
She knew it. It's the art of negotiation. I'll give up a long-shot, in return for something else. And your senator Reid is in control. Sucks for ya doesn't it.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 22, 2013 - 04:34pm PT
And you claim victory?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 22, 2013 - 04:57pm PT
Instead, why not have the feds just expand on the brady check info to include the model and serial number of the gun being purchased? that would take making a new form to include two more boxes on it for thier computer program...TOO SIMPLE?

That seems like a good idea to me. I trust you will write your congressperson expressing your support for including such information in background checks.

How about a limit to how many guns a person can buy each year? How many do you buy a year? How many new guns a year do you think is reasonable for your typical gun enthusiasts?



The elephant being eaten a fork at a time hardly notices the tiny bites until those tiny bites accumulate and by then its too late.

I want to understand this because I've always wondered what elephant (and dolphin) tastes like. The elephant represents YOUR rights as a gun owner. The little bites with a fork is the legislation slowly taking them away. And the elephant is too dense to realize the first time it gets stuck with a fork? You sure it isn't that the elephant is so paranoid that it freaks out at the sight of a fork and spreads his irrational fear like a virus through the rest of the elephant population until they are all too forking stupid to realize the fork is used to keep them out of their own sh#t?

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 22, 2013 - 05:16pm PT
It is no more up to the fed govt to tell someone how many anythings they can buy than it is for me to tell you what you may or may not buy.

They limit how much of certain drugs you can buy, they limit the number of savings bonds you can buy, they limit the number of withdraws you can have from your savings or money market accounts...

They dont prohibit how much booze may be purchased by any one either.

they limit how much booze a legal adult can buy before they are 21, they require tags on all kegs, ... I'm sure there are more...



And all for good reason. And none of them result in anything more than a minor inconvenience... just like stricter legislation for gun purchases.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 22, 2013 - 06:33pm PT
So has Obama taken all your guns away yet?
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 22, 2013 - 07:26pm PT
Some work for Hillary and then some for Julian Castro (currently mayor of San Antonio) eight years later. It will be down to shotguns or paintball....your pick.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 22, 2013 - 11:26pm PT

Two Teenage Boys Arrested in Georgia Baby Shooting Death
By LAUREN EFFRON | ABC News 3 hrs ago


Two teenage suspects, one as young as 14, have been arrested in the shooting death of a 1-year-old Georgia boy, who was killed as his mother pushed him in a stroller, police announced today.
Chief Tobe Green of the Brunswick Police Department said that Demarquis Elkins, 17, and a 14-year-old unidentified suspect whose name has been withheld because of his age, were arrested early this morning in connection with the baby's death, and both have been charged with first-degree murder.
"We are still investigating the motive, but we are trying to turn every stone to make sure we get a motive," Green said.
Green declined to provide further details, other than to say it continued to be an open investigation, and that no weapon had yet been recovered.
Under Georgia law, Elkins is considered an adult, Green said, but the younger suspect is considered a minor.
"We are still following up on leads from our witnesses and are still involved in collecting evidence," Green said. Search warrants had been issued at three locations near Brunswick, which has a population of about 15,500 people.
Brunswick police, along with a SWAT team and various agencies, had launched a vast manhunt across the Glynn County area in search of the two teenage suspects after the shooting on Thursday morning.
Sherry West, the 41-year-old mother of the child, told police she'd been walking her 13-month-old son, Antonio, in a stroller Thursday morning through their Brunswick, Ga., neighborhood when two African-American boys approached her and demanded money. When she told them she didn't have any money, West said one of the boys pulled out a handgun.
"He said, 'I'm going to kill you if you don't give me money,' and I said, 'I swear I don't have any,"' West told WAWS-TV in Jacksonville, Fla.
West said she tried to shield her child with her arms, but the gunman shoved her and shot the baby in the head. West was shot in the leg.
Going on West's description, police said they began looking for two African-American boys between the ages of 10 and 15 years old since Thursday. No details about how the suspects were arrested were given.
Officer Todd Rhodes, a spokesman for the Brunswick Police Department, confirmed that the weapon used in the shooting was a handgun but declined to describe it further.
Since the shooting, police said 30 different leads had been called into the Brunswick Police Department and the Glynn County Police Department, or were submitted through email. Police said the Glynn County School Board Campus Police had been assisting law enforcement in combing school attendance records for leads.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 22, 2013 - 11:34pm PT
Too bad there's no more death penalty for crimes committed by juviniles.





This piece of sh#t, however, is 18 - which makes him an adult for legal purposes, and he'll know the exact day and time of his own death far in advance because Georgia is one of those states who doesn't f--k around with the death penalty.



I doubt he lives to see thirty.

Old enough to have earned himself a seat in the Electric Chair, but not old enough to legally possess the handgun he used in the murder. See ya!
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 23, 2013 - 12:05am PT
The weird backstory is the same women whose infant was killed, also lost her 18 year old son in 2008. He tried to ambush another teen, but the other teen took the knife away and killed him. No charges, self defense.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Police-arrest-2-teens-in-Georgia-baby-s-killing-4375946.php

Chaz posts the mug shot to clue us in on what he thinks killers generally look like.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 23, 2013 - 12:43am PT
Monolith writes:

"Chaz posts the mug shot to clue us in on what he thinks killers generally look like."



Black-hair-brown-eyes is consistent with a majority of suspect descriptions in murder cases.

I wish it were different.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 23, 2013 - 12:48am PT
Chaz....what would be the physical description of the vast majority of the mass murderers and serial killlers in America? Male and white would fill the bill nicely.

Yes the death penalty.....revenge feels good but every First World Country, save one, has rejected the death penalty as archaic, barbaric and ineffective.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 23, 2013 - 01:14am PT
jghedge writes:

"WHY do you insist that your idiotic, gun-fantasy world bubble is the only way?"




No tool works for every job. You tell me how a #3 Camalot would have made a difference. Even if I were carrying a concealed pistol, I wouldn't try to pull it on someone who has the drop on me ( unless maybe I had him convinced I was reaching for my cash ).
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 23, 2013 - 01:26am PT
jghedge writes:

"So, again - why do you nuts insist that being armed is the only way?"



You're not seeing the whole picture.

Simply being armed isn't an end-all. Being armed is only one component of self-defense. One of many components.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 23, 2013 - 01:35am PT
If you ever had to defend your life in an actual for real fight, would you rather be armed? Or un-armed?

By the way, when was the last time you were in a violent fight? Ever once?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 23, 2013 - 01:59am PT
When was the last time you were in a violent fight?

P.J. O'Rourke put it best:

"you'd be crazy not to have a gun. Though, I assure you, all the crazy people have guns, too"

Works for me.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 23, 2013 - 02:15am PT
jghedge writes:

"And why do the countries comparable to the US, where guns are outlawed, have the least gun murders?"



Like Mexico? How do you explain all the gun murders in Mexico? They have really strict gun laws.
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