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Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jan 20, 2013 - 01:33pm PT
I quit following this thread days ago. This tumult in the issue, this run on the bank mentality in ordnance purchasers seems to have brought out the worst in so many people on all sides of this debate.

There were people who, though I may not have always agreed with, I used to respect who have now plummeted in my estimation.
And indeed the very worthlessness of the discussion here has driven home what a monumental waste of my time much of my Taco experience has been.

It is one thing to feel strongly about an issue, but quite another to be so self-righteous as to feel entitled to sling foul smelling calumnies about and then claim that anyone who disagrees has innocent blood on their hands.

Likewise, those that have thrown courtesy by the wayside in defending what they perceive as an assault on their freedoms have only served to enhance the putrid nature of the stench.

Shame on the lot of you.

In time this business will shake out. Things will sort themselves out. Maybe there will be more useless laws, maybe not. But there are definitely more people on my "not worth paying attention to" list (which was quite long to begin with) and, while but a pale moon cast shadow second to the tragedy that prompted this discussion, that is nonetheless sad.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 20, 2013 - 01:36pm PT
yes Toker,

only you have risen to the nobility of seeing each side of this

and good of you for staying away for so long, just soaking in and reflecting so well
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 20, 2013 - 01:38pm PT
Actually wing nut, I was just injured yesterday (broken or dislocated rib and bruised kidney) breaking up a street fight. My own fault though. After dodging a few of his fists I subdued the 20 something kid by kicking his feet out and driving him to the ground. Once on the ground he was quite docile. Unfortunately for me at the same time i slipped on the sidewalk ice and cracked my back across the edge of the railroad tie landscape wall. And before you tell me i am too old for street fighting understand that i was breaking it up. No baseball bats, ice axes or thank god guns.

I am sure a very few of you are quite pleased I got injured doing a civic good.
And I bet you think if only you'd been there with your heat you'd have .
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jan 20, 2013 - 01:39pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

Norton,,
Teach your children well,, indeed. Because i was raised with guns and hunting, this taught me all about weaponry, safety and shooting. This led to me being licensed by the BLM for firearms in no time flat. And then the USFS. Without that prior knowledge that wouldnt have been accomplished. When getting licensed by the BLM, i happened to show an instructor the problem with his ejector tabs,, fixing them in a matter of minutes.. He looked at me and said,, you obvioulsy know what yur doin young man.. I replied,, nawww but my Dad did and passed it to me.
t*r

Mountain climber
where the wild things are
Jan 20, 2013 - 01:44pm PT
the beautiful smith & wesson i inherited from my father. he told me about 9 months before he died unexpectedly in june that he wanted me to have it. we didn't know it would be so soon... it would be difficult to articulate how much this piece means to me.

my smith & wesson
my smith & wesson
Credit: t*r




in his cowboy hat:

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jan 20, 2013 - 01:46pm PT
Beautiful revolver TR! Treasure it..
t*r

Mountain climber
the hills of my home
Jan 20, 2013 - 02:04pm PT
i do.
Wall slave

Social climber
Jan 20, 2013 - 03:35pm PT
Thanks for the sane tone guys. Headgy and doninny are both geting real edgy. What doninni suggest is exactly how Hoover went after Martin Luther King. They couldn't shut him up and they couldn't deny him, so they tried to discredit him. (Finally, "they" killed him, whoever you think did it.)

Doninny is advocating and calling for vile and dispicable ethics and slander campaigns, including direct action and lies as, "the end justicies the means" as he has said, quite precisely.



Donniny, I find myself suprised by you. That is low, from a "patriot". What kind of superhero so casually denigrates an opponents' serious cherished arguments, customs and beliefs, and then flagrantly calls for that mans destruction by foul means publicly? They teach you in SF thats how to dicker with Taliban or other opposition leaders you may palaver with? You know thats not how its done, or are you the kind of Army Officer that gave those special blankets to the Indians?

I have gone from 'I'd like to meet ya', to 'I really don't particularly care much about it' already, but You manage to emcourage me to not-so like you more and more with time. Thats actually a mild active advoidance, if you understand. Please return my Fanboy Deposit and I will return your decoder ring with the "Points to God" Moral Compass.



Just saying. I'm outta your fan club.

U too, Headgy. Y'all way too self-righteous. I can get sanctimony cheap, almost anywhere.









donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 20, 2013 - 03:53pm PT
Going to Montrose tomorrow, need to remember to get some barbless hooks.
jghedge

climber
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:07pm PT
"U too, Headgy. Y'all way too self-righteous."

Tell me again why 12,000 people a year need to be shot to death?

I must have missed the part of the debate where that was explained
Wall slave

Social climber
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:08pm PT
That trolling stuff bites both the fisherman and the fish. On an issue like this, its more like throwing dynamite in the pond or using electrodes.

Running a trot line is illegal most places. Oughta be here. Fish get all sturred up and don't know whats who's wants whats or says/said which. Not much discussion gets left with all the mud.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:10pm PT
Wow Wallslave I am sure they are devestated.

Trot line?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:19pm PT
Doninny is advocating and calling for vile and dispicable ethics and slander campaigns...

Have you seen the recent NRA ad campaign? Do you have and express as much contempt for those bastards as you do for one man voicing his opinion?


Ballslave sounds like blahblahbullshit or maybe Jody. Regardless of who it is, their arguments are absurdly extremist and should be embarrassing to most gun owners.
Wall slave

Social climber
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:21pm PT
Southern fishing term.

Its someone setting out to hook so many damn fish at once that it is a vulgar joke on sportsmanship and becomes overutilization of the resource beyond conservation or reasonable use.




(There: a city/yankee/non-fisherman over-explanation for you. You never heard of a trotline?)


tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:21pm PT
Dear Mr. Vice President,

I am Sheriff Tim Mueller, elected twice by the citizens of Linn County Oregon who have entrusted me with a noble cause: to keep them and their families safe. My deputies and I take that responsibility very seriously and, like you, have sworn to support the Constitution of the United States. I take that oath equally as serious as protecting our citizens. I have worked for the people of Linn County for over 28 years as a member of the Linn County Sheriff's Office as well as serving three years active duty as a Military Police Officer in the US Army, where I also swore a similar oath.

In the wake of the recent criminal events, politicians are attempting to exploit the deaths of innocent victims by advocating for laws that would prevent honest, law abiding Americans from possessing certain firearms and ammunition magazines. We are Americans. We must not allow, nor shall we tolerate, the actions of criminals, no matter how heinous the crimes, to prompt politicians to enact laws that will infringe upon the liberties of responsible citizens who have broken no laws.

Any federal regulation enacted by Congress or by executive order of the President offending the constitutional rights of my citizens shall not be enforced by me or by my deputies, nor will I permit the enforcement of any unconstitutional regulations or orders by federal officers within the borders of Linn County Oregon.

In summary, it is the position of this Sheriff that I refuse to participate, or stand idly by, while my citizens are turned into criminals due to the unconstitutional actions of misguided politicians.

Respectfully,

Sheriff Tim Mueller

Linn County Oregon


There's a quote every American could agree with. Finally some reason in this sea of fish. Everybody knows that one human doesn't have the power in the US to cause the courts to overreact and ruin America step-by-step.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:24pm PT
Sheriff Tim Mueller is an idiot, as only an idiot would overreact to a proposal that hadn't even been made yet.
tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:25pm PT
If a Canadian told Harper that no individual would cause the Canadian way of life to change through our courts, nobody would whine except for the co-conspirators of that one (criminal) individual.



I wonder out of those arguing here, who would have the stronger argument if these crazy guys hadn't made a point for them. I know a couple that seem like they are mad only because the gunman didn't use the bushmaster rifle but left it in the car. If only the rifle had been used inside the school their argument would have been complete eh?
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:26pm PT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trotline

I grew up hearing the term. Didn't realize it was regional.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:27pm PT
At least that Linn County Sheriff was elected. He can say he's accountable to the voters of his county, NOT the President.

There are a number of un-elected Chiefs of Police who defiantly refuse to help enforce any federal immigration laws, so the precedent has already been established, and fully recognized as legitimate by Washington.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:27pm PT
ooohhh


a real live "sheriff" from some country in Oregon SAID SOMETHING YOU AGREE WITH

wow, big news

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