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hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Feb 13, 2013 - 03:22pm PT
TradEddie... I agree with the idea that the background check could be streamlined and automated. Then maybe the fee could be reduced, or part of it diverted for a victims/education fund, something like that.

Amazing how we dump more money and effort into improving the safety of vehicles, vs making the drivers better, safer, more aware. It's a fact of life: we accept accidental deaths in auto accidents as simply "unavoidable accidents", yet they are so often caused by carelessness, wrecklessness, DUI, distraction, and road rage. But OHHHHHHH NOOOOOO! there's simply nothing to be done about that, because we NEEEEEEED those cars.
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Feb 13, 2013 - 03:23pm PT
Get a job closer to home. For SOME cars are necessary. For the infrastructure of society, cars are necessary. For individuals? Not so much.
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Feb 13, 2013 - 03:27pm PT
I feed my family with my guns.
If your choice is to be vegan, or vegetarian, congratulations. That's commendable.
I've been shot at once and returned fire. I don't think anyone got injured, but I didn't go running across the canyon to find out either.
There are also other members of my family who have defended their lives with a firearm.
You tell me how to predict when and where someone is going to threaten the life of someone else, reliably, and then you can start making determinations of who needs a gun and when.
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mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 13, 2013 - 03:57pm PT
But your attitude that anyone who owns one does so needlessly, and thus automatically qualifies them as a f*#kin idiot. is bullsh#t.

I never said that. You know, misinterpreting what others say is the leading cause of being called a fuking idiot. I own 3 guns, I've been shooting since I was 6, I have friends who own veritable arsenals of weapons, I shoot about once a month, I plan to take up hunting small game this summer and accompany a friend on a hunt next fall. I've never ever said people who own guns are fuking idiots. I said people who equate guns to cars are fuking idiots... people who oppose stricter gun regulations are fuking idiots... people who think we should arm school teachers are fuking idiots... and people who think more guns make us safer are fuking idiots...

How about you pay attention to what is being said, rather than making sh#t up?


But OHHHHHHH NOOOOOO! there's simply nothing to be done about that, because we NEEEEEEED those cars.

Get a job closer to home. For SOME cars are necessary. For the infrastructure of society, cars are necessary.

Contradicting yourself in back to back posts is the second leading cause of being called an idiot.

You know why the average commute is 15 miles? Because that is how "we" designed our cities. You want to see a REAL economic collapse, restrict people's access to cars. The vast majority of work that fuels our economy would go undone. Restrict people's access to guns and society will be just fine.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Feb 13, 2013 - 03:59pm PT
DAT DEY DUN TOOOK OUR GUNS!


'MURICA!
frank wyman

Mountain climber
montana
Feb 13, 2013 - 04:04pm PT
That boy...Ahhhhsaid that boy is like a cannon, always shootin his mouthoff...=Foghorn Leghorn=
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Feb 13, 2013 - 04:57pm PT
Why pay attention? It's more fun to throw around some attention-grabbing b.s., like calling people fukin idiots. Good for you for owning a gun or two! I wish you luck with the hunting, it can be rewarding.

Seriously though, your point gets lost when you start calling names. It brings out the elitist attitude in you and puts it on display for the world. It nullifies any valid point you might have had. Why would anyone give a sh#t about someone's opinion when all they're going to do when you find your opinions differ is start calling you derogatory names and calling your intelligence into question? Is that really an effective method of having your opinion considered, ya think?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 13, 2013 - 05:00pm PT
Well said HillRat,,But it will fall on deaf ears, im afraid...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 13, 2013 - 05:09pm PT
Hillrat, I tried that. I used to support my claims with statistics, spend time checking the sources, etc. Then I realized most of the people involved in these discussions are fuking idiots... so...
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Feb 13, 2013 - 05:12pm PT
You want REAL economic collapse? Let them keep their cars, take away the fuel. Better yet, throw in a major geologic/meteorologic event. We've seen it happen, here, recently, in this country. Criminals took advantage, decent citizens became victims. Nobody will ever really know how many crimes were committed, nor how many were thwarted by justified use of firearms.

You've got points to make, fine. But for you to argue that someone is an idiot because they don't embrace stricter gun control? Really? That's your definition? Kinda narrow.

Arm all teachers: Bad, bad idea.
Allow those who are capable and sane to carry? Maybe. I haven't seen a rise in crime or accidents for that matter in the rest of the general public sector from allowing concealed carry in general. When and where and who would probably need close scrutiny.

You really think I don't recognize how interwoven vehicles are in our society? Come on... I'm a f*#kin mechanic. I have a degree in that sh#t. Your idea that there's simply no comparison between cars and guns is not true. There are valid points to be made. It's like when I compared my ex to a stripper once and she went batxhit crazy because she saw no similarity between them. I guess ymmv.


I'm wrong every day. Life is constantly changing and evolving, along with what I know, what I think I know, and what life's going to teach me tomorrow. My attitudes on guns have changed over time, and indeed the GF and I have differing opinions which we're willing to at least discuss rationally. We don't call each other fukin idiots.

But like I said, whatever works for ya.

Edit: to be less of a prick
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Feb 13, 2013 - 05:15pm PT
All right, all right. I'm gettin all worked up over this stupid thread again. Look, I don't really want to start calling people names and all that b.s.

So if I offend, I'll work on that.

Anyway, the sun's out and there are better things to do.

You are right that people base their opinions as much on emotion as statistics, which are often contradictory.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 13, 2013 - 05:25pm PT
You didn't have time to look back a page or two before assuming I was on the extreme opposite side of the argument... assuming that I opposed gun ownership and thought everyone who owned one was a fuking idiot...

...but you had time to do a screen capture from another thread and upload it?




So, you want to assume you know what my opinion is without reading my opinions?

"Is that really an effective method of having your opinion considered, ya think?"

I'm pretty sure I haven't called you a fuking idiot yet hillrat, because I read what you write and consider most of it fairly intelligent. Ron, Ron, and Chaz on the other hand, they can be fuking idiots and I have no hesitation pointing out when they are.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Feb 13, 2013 - 05:31pm PT
mechrist, you are coming across like Bluering. Is that what you really want? LOL. I understand your frustration, but you catch more flies with sugar than vinegar, and the flies that don't like sugar are too fuking stupid to deal with anyway.
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Feb 13, 2013 - 07:16pm PT
3109 posts. Im just not that bored. Sorry i didnt catch your opinion as being moderate. Guess thats life in the forum. Keep at it with the statistics and the research.Dont be surprised when people refute the numbers. Just try to remember there are other legitimate uses for guns besides gangbangin, redneckin, and murder.

mechrist: not Bluering
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 13, 2013 - 07:28pm PT
Weschrist writes:

"Ron, Ron, and Chaz on the other hand, they can be fuking idiots and I have no hesitation pointing out when they are."



Yeah, but you have no answer to my agruements. If you did, you'd respond with something more intilligent than your tiresome "fuking idiots" schoolyard rhetoric.
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Feb 13, 2013 - 07:51pm PT
Maybe you didn't know, but you don't need a license, registration, or insurance to legally own and drive a car on private property.


Now there's a argument that demands an answer!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 13, 2013 - 08:30pm PT
On the TV channels around here,, every day and night, the NHP runs ads warning of folks not to be distracted while driving, and cell phone usage/texting..EVERY NIGHT and day these ads are run, and they DONT run any ads of avoiding guns, or any of the like. So one can only assume the NHP is far more concerned over teeny boppers texting than with any guns issues.
crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Feb 13, 2013 - 10:05pm PT
Ron, you ignorant slut, does the NHP stand for the Nevada Highway Patrol??????
Why would they run ads about gun control??????
Please, go to the fridge and look in that jar labeled "my brain". Put it back in!!!!!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 13, 2013 - 10:10pm PT
No one runs adds pleading to avoid guns or any of the like is MY point,, crank..
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 14, 2013 - 12:33am PT
ya know, dat thar NHP iz a gubmint agensee. day woent wana enstagate nutin leyk a revolution or nutin by bannin are guns, now wud day?
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