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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jan 19, 2013 - 01:25pm PT
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Ive been TOTALLY against the whole "world police" crap from the very start.
Then why do you expend so much time and energy frothing and whinging about in?
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jan 19, 2013 - 02:24pm PT
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Hedge is a treasure who speaks truth with clarity.You sir sound ass if you are garggaling Glen Beck's scrotum.
The sheer number of times you have been bitch slapped back on your own dense petard should garner you an award of some kind.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jan 19, 2013 - 02:36pm PT
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Rong, you sure have strange hobbies.
But that's OK i am sure that for a nominal service charge either or both of us would gladdly piss in your mouth.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 19, 2013 - 02:40pm PT
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Say, has Honey Boo Boo checked in here yet?
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jan 19, 2013 - 03:30pm PT
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Laugh out loud good 1 hedge
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 19, 2013 - 04:30pm PT
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Scared and rabid gun nuts are offensive and need to be trained, licensed, fingerprinted and pay a hefty permit fee before they can legally exercise 1st Amendment rights to say their irritating stupid ideas in public.
Offending others is not what the 1st Amendment was intended to do!
there, fixed the wording for ya
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jan 19, 2013 - 05:00pm PT
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Ask yourself why so many prominent people send their kids to schools that have armed guards?
If all schools were safe, why not send them there, to other schools?
Stupid debate. Put armed personnel at schools. Teachers, guards, whatever.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jan 19, 2013 - 05:17pm PT
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Au contraire Ron, i'm just calling for the same tactics used by the Tea Party controlled "Grand Old Party." Don't know how Abe Lincoln can be resting in peace.
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GhoulweJ
Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
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Jan 19, 2013 - 05:18pm PT
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I think this thread is now just a yelling match of those who are strong in their own beliefs.
No minds on this thread will change.
I think you guys should walk away and just focus on the BooB thread.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jan 19, 2013 - 05:23pm PT
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Absolutely right you are! I've often said the when it comes to political and religious threads people do not discuss, they pontificate. Rarely, very rarely, are opinions changed or even modified.
edit: consider me guilty as charged.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jan 19, 2013 - 05:26pm PT
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Because there's too many nuts out there with guns, obviously
True, or course. But the best way to stop a bad-guy with a gun is to shoot him dead by a good-guy.
That's it.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jan 19, 2013 - 05:28pm PT
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The good guy/ bad guy distinction often gets blurred.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jan 19, 2013 - 05:35pm PT
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The good guy/ bad guy distinction often gets blurred.
Not by good-guys. They know what they're doing, and usually understand consequence.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 19, 2013 - 05:35pm PT
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True, or course. But the best way to stop a bad-guy with a gun is to shoot him dead by a good-guy.
actually, I agree 100% with Bluering on this
and I suspect he also agrees that smarter efforts that are reasonable should at least be tried to keep guns out of the hands of the bad guns, without taking any guns away from the good guys
I have had my Concealed Carry License for over four years now and absolutely both my wife and myself feel "safer" when I carry, which is pretty much all the time
I ain't no Rambo and I am not being asked to give up any of my guns on any of the proposed new legislation, it does not effect me or anyone I know
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 19, 2013 - 05:37pm PT
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"The good guy/ bad guy distinction often gets blurred."
That happens to sheep who can't distinguish a wolf from a sheepdog.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jan 19, 2013 - 05:44pm PT
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actually, I agree 100% with Bluering on this
and I suspect he also agrees that smarter efforts that are reasonable should at least be tried to keep guns out of the hands of the bad guns, without taking any guns away from the good guys
I have had my Concealed Carry License for over four years now and absolutely both my wife and myself feel "safer" when I carry, which is pretty much all the time
I ain't no Rambo and I am not being asked to give up any of my guns on any of the proposed new legislation, it does not effect me or anyone I know
See? Common ground. Call Bob Beckel, Norton.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jan 19, 2013 - 05:45pm PT
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Ah bluering to live in a black and white world without nuance....what comfort, what certitude- the same sort of world others such as Hitler and Torquemada created for themselves. It is certainly the case that people who operate with complete certitude and justification accomplish a lot. What they accomplish, though, is often the problem.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jan 19, 2013 - 05:54pm PT
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Ah bluering to live in a black and white world without nuance....what comfort, what certitude- the same sort of world others such as Hitler and Torquemada created for themselves. It is certainly the case that people who operate with complete certitude and justification accomplish a lot. What they accomplish, though, is often the problem.
Yes, Jim, but it all comes to one thing. God. Or rather, what is or is not in your heart, your intentions.
Are you fighting for good or evil? I think we have a good record of 'good'.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jan 19, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
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Who's WE Kimosabi?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 19, 2013 - 06:12pm PT
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Take the guns out of the equation entirely
Which will eventually happen.
translation: I know Americans will NOT "give up" their guns, ever.
But because OTHER social issues evolved within MY ideology, so must the "gun issue"
wrong, Joe
it's NOT always the same, history cannot be trusted to repeat itself under ALL circumstances
guns in America is NOT abortion or same sex marriage
your mistake is trying to fit the square peg of guns in the round hole of other "issues"
your are a smart guy, but your own "certitude" is the weakness in your conclusion
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