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Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Jan 11, 2013 - 07:33pm PT
bad week for gun nuts

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101791555
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 11, 2013 - 07:44pm PT
Yes, GET MAD!

Why are gun nuts generally religious people... who like to get MAD and YELL and freak the fuk out and call for violent uprisings?

Jesus Christ folks... get a fuking grip. All you self-proclaimed Christians should be speaking out against these fuking morons who promote violence and intolerance and wouldn't know Jesus if he gave them a hand job. Instead, all I hear from religious folks is praise for idiots like Alex Jones.
jghedge

climber
Jan 11, 2013 - 07:57pm PT
Not man enough? Buy a gun

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/20/opinion/waldman-guns-manhood/index.html


(CNN) -- Marketers have long told potential customers that if you used their product, it would do more than satisfy your consumer desires, it would make you into the kind of person you want to be.

You may not be young, hip, and creative, but if you buy a computer from Apple, you can tell yourself that you are. Wearing a T-shirt from Under Armour won't actually turn you into an athlete, but it doesn't hurt to pretend.

And if you're anxious about your masculinity, if you aren't quite sure whether those around you find you sufficiently strong and potent, the Bushmaster corporation has an answer for you. If you buy one of their semi-automatic rifles -- like the kind Adam Lanza used to murder 20 children and six adults last week -- you may "Consider your Man Card reissued."

That's the message of ads the company has been running, along with a particularly ridiculous social media campaign.

Until today -- the page has apparently been taken down, but parts of it are visible here -- you could learn on the "Man Card" section of Bushmaster's website that "In a world of rapidly depleting testosterone, the Bushmaster Man Card declares and confirms that you are a man's man." Then you could fill out a little form to bust on your buddies for not being manly enough, to "Revoke a Man Card." Just enter a brief description of the offense and put it into one of five categories: "Cry baby," "Cupcake," "Short leash," "Coward," or "Just unmanly."

You don't have to be a Freudian analyst to grasp the hidden meaning. It's not even subtext -- it's text.

As we begin a long-overdue examination of where gun culture in America has gone, we can't avoid the way guns have become so entwined with masculine anxiety, as so many men seek to find their identity in instruments of destruction.

This isn't particularly new, of course. Male anxiety has produced backlashes before, enacted through our fantasies as the world changes and tradition gender roles are challenged. A 1959 cover story in Time magazine described how at that time there were no fewer than 30 westerns on the three networks in prime time. For the post-war American male, an office job and a house in the suburbs offered few opportunities to prove one's manhood, so tales of two-fisted cowboys wielding six-guns became irresistible. "How long since you used your fists?" Time quoted one sociologist saying by way of explanation of the western's popularity. "How long since you called the boss an s.o.b? The western men do, and they are happy men."

That "responsible gun owner" politicians talk about, the one who reverentially passes down to his son the bolt-action rifle his father gave him? That guy isn't good for business. The manufacturers need the other guy, the one who fears he may not be all the man he could be.

Whenever that anxiety gets to be too much, he can go down to the gun store and buy another gun, and another, and a few more after that. He'll get thousands of rounds of ammunition too, because you never know what might happen.

Then he'll go home and nod with satisfaction at his own little armory, telling himself that when the time comes for him to become the hero of his own action movie, he'll be ready.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Jan 11, 2013 - 08:11pm PT
Require a criminal background check for every gun sold in America.

Already law here in Ca., I got no problem with that.

Ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines that enable mass killing

I don't think that will affect the actions of a deranged psychopath. I realize there has to be a line somewhere regarding personal firepower, but legislating my personal mag capacity down to ten rounds will not make any difference except to me.

Make gun trafficking a federal crime, with stiff penalties for those who arm criminals.

I'm good with that, let's start with our own DOJ... and isn't trafficking in weapons already a Federal crime?
jghedge

climber
Jan 11, 2013 - 08:15pm PT
"Already law here in Ca., I got no problem with that."

Retroactively? That's what they're talking about.

And not just criminal background checks, but mental health as well.

Millions that already have guns will have them taken away.

Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Jan 11, 2013 - 08:38pm PT
Retroactively? That's what they're talking about.

You're talking about enforcing existing law. It is illegal for a convicted felon or parolee to own or handle, or even be around a firearm.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jan 11, 2013 - 08:45pm PT
Connecticut has come up with the BARNEY FIFE bill,,,ONLY single shot weapons of any type,, all others BANNED.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jan 11, 2013 - 08:47pm PT
according to the DOJ,, approx 3.5 to 4 million guns were used in self defense without any one being shot each year...Those are incidents where the perps were convinced by show of a weapon to leave.
jghedge

climber
Jan 11, 2013 - 08:55pm PT
"You're talking about enforcing existing law. It is illegal for a convicted felon or parolee to own or handle, or even be around a firearm. "

Nope - wrong. Not what they're talking about.

Not everyone with a criminal background is a convicted felon, obviously.

Also, anyone with a "connection to terrorism" would have their gun rights stripped - meaning most of the gun nuts on this thread who vouched for their gun ownership as a means of attacking the gov't would be stripped, and their weapons confiscated.

http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/the-feinstein-obama-ban-wagon/

"Unlike the health-care debate, though, the proposals for new gun control would make instant felons out of hundreds of thousands – possibly millions – of otherwise law-abiding citizens and subject those people to being arrested, incarcerated, or even killed, simply for continuing to exercise their constitutionally guaranteed right to arms."

Very serious, and very scary. All you gun nuts better just run outside, right now, and start blasting away at anyone wearing any kind of gov't uniform.

Don't worry - the constitution will protect you!


michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 11, 2013 - 08:56pm PT
Also, anyone with a "connection to terrorism" would have their gun rights stripped - meaning most of the gun nuts on this thread who vouched for their gun ownership as a means of attacking the gov't would be stripped, and their weapons confiscated.


Also wrong. We've "vouched" our gun ownership as a means of repelling a tyrannical government, as per the Second Amendment in the Constitution of the United States of America.
jghedge

climber
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:00pm PT
"We've "vouched" our gun ownership as a means of repelling a tyrannical government, as per the Second Amendment in the Constitution of the United States of America."

Exactly the kind of terroristic language that will get your gun rights stripped - and in your case, the sooner the better.
jghedge

climber
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:02pm PT
"according to the DOJ,, approx 3.5 to 4 million guns were used in self defense without any one being shot each year."

Hahahahaha

Sorry, Rong

All your fantasy world gibberish is going to get you is more humiliation.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:02pm PT
If that is the sort of language that will get me accused of domestic terrorism, than it's already a tyrannical government.


It's a sad day, that morons like you, aren't restricted on internet access.
jghedge

climber
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:07pm PT
"If that is the sort of language that will get me accused of domestic terrorism, than it's already a tyrannical government."

Always been that way, regarding your type. Read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition

"Sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power. Treason is the violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or state, giving aid to enemies, or levying war against one's state. Sedition is encouraging one's fellow citizens to rebel against their state, whereas treason is actually betraying one's country by aiding and abetting another state. Sedition laws somewhat equate to terrorism and public order laws."


Might be time for you to shut your ignorant mouth - you've already dug the hole you're in pretty deep.

michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:10pm PT
You're a paranoid lunatic.
crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:11pm PT
Typical gunnut. A lunatic masquerading as a patriot. Most have the IQ of a flea.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/state-suspends-handgun-carry-permit-of-tactical-response?ref=fpa
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:11pm PT
sorry hedgewad YOUR RONG... Those ARE DEPT OF JUSTICE FIGURES go see for yourself,, those are guns used in a self defense manner...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:15pm PT
If that is the sort of language that will get me accused of domestic terrorism, than it's already a tyrannical government.

What makes the threats of civil war by Alex Jones or any of the other nuts any different than those of Awlaki?

And it is thEn, not thAn.

It's a sad day, that morons like you, aren't restricted on internet access.

Right... because fuk the 1st amendment, we'll just skip to the second. I really hope for your sake that was intentional irony.
jghedge

climber
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:16pm PT
"Those ARE DEPT OF JUSTICE FIGURES go see for yourself,, those are guns used in a self defense manner..."

Nope. If you had them, you'd post them.

Think we can't tell the difference between reality and your pathetic fantasy world?

10,000 posts, and you've learned exactly...nothing.

crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:16pm PT
Ron is drunk posting again. Gonna be a long night.
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