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TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:44pm PT
I got an all-nighter on a union commercial shoot tonight.

if it was non union,




































you'd be done in two hours.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:45pm PT
Monolith writes:

"Fantasies are fun"



The actual quote:

"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

 Isoroku Yamamoto ( he was the Commander-in-Chief of the Imperial Japanese Navy during World War II )


Apparently, there actually IS something to what Michaeld wrote, and NOT a *fantasy*, as Monolith imagines.

( google is your friend, Monolith. It allows you to "look it up" before you post )


michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:45pm PT
There is a different mindset amongst people in that community. I have a few friends who personally know James Yeager, who are VERY conservative, very pro gun, who think he's bat sh#t insane. Don't let one speak for all.



Thanks Chaz. Glad I didn't have to Google it though. Glad my elementary school education is still retained in my child like zipper head.


Bought my guide book, off to get some sleep for some flailing tomorrow.

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:46pm PT
ah, if only it were one...

The point being, not only is he allowed to own guns, he instructs others on how to use them. People like that SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAVE GUNS.

PERIOD!
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:47pm PT
If ya believe that, yer a sucker Chaz.

They were not afraid to go against our military, why the hell would they fear pea shooters. They savagely went after any insurgent activity, including going after innocent civilians.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:48pm PT
James has plenty of experience shooting guns, from all different positions and situations. He's a VERY EFFECTIVE INSTRUCTOR.

How is what Chaz wrote make him a sucker?

Facts are there. Why else would they have stopped? They toppled our only Navy in the Pacific (Aside from our Carriers which moved to a different location right before the attack).
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:48pm PT
ksolem wrote:

Sorry for the wandering post, but regarding the Bill of Rights, and the concept that the 2nd amendment is there so the people can defend themselves against a tyrannical government, it is quite clear that in today's world citizens fighting with small arms against our military is not a viable option (I think though that this is more about food and water than the weapons.) But, a government which supports the responsible ownership and use of arms is a government which respects and has trust in the people.

It is not a question of whether or not there is a "concept" there, what is written is what there is... and it doesn't say anything about rebellion or tyranny... or about individuals defending such or the "trust" of the government in the people...

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

where is there talk of tyranny, rebellion or individuals?

It's "We the People..." not "Me the Person..." after all...
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:49pm PT
Monolith writes:

"If ya believe that, yer a sucker Chaz."



Top Dog of the Jap Navy. I don't know, Monolith. Maybe your personal imagination is more accurate than historical documentation.
crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:49pm PT
NRA peddles fear and paranoia. The weak minded are easy targets.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:52pm PT
I'm very scared and paranoid.

My WASR-4 killed nobody today.

Must be defective.

monolith

climber
albany,ca
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:52pm PT
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Isoroku_Yamamoto

Yep, Chaz, MichealD, complete bunk.

Who doesn't know how to use google?

You guys live in fantasy.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:53pm PT
Sigh. Okay I'm gonna go fantasize some more then. Goodnight.
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:54pm PT
Micheal, take up your employer's offer to pay for some education. A community college will do you some good.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:55pm PT
Thanks Chaz. Glad I didn't have to Google it though. Glad my elementary school education is still retained in my child like zipper head.

Home schooled... right?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 11, 2013 - 10:15pm PT
I dunno, Monolith ( jghedge )

I have multiple non-Wiki sources, all saying that quote was indeed uttered. You want to try to prove a negative?

Yamamoto's advice was certainly heeded.
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Jan 11, 2013 - 10:16pm PT
That's your logic?

His fear was 'waking the sleeping giant' who could mobilize a huge industry to make planes, tanks, ships. Nothing to do with the pea shooters a citizen might have.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jan 11, 2013 - 10:18pm PT
Hahahaha

That's about as long as you'd last as a grip

Even if you kept your mouth shut.

Yeah, I'm vastly overqualified for furniture moving.

And,

I can't help but feeling a bit sorry for anyone stuck in a job where "Keeping your mouth shut" is a prerequisite unless it involves national security.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 11, 2013 - 11:02pm PT
haha... yeah, the Japanese were frightened because of civilian guns... hahaa... and yet, somehow, we are being invaded by Mexico according to Rong.
jstan

climber
Jan 11, 2013 - 11:10pm PT
A commentator on NPR observed today that negotiations with the NRA tend not to be "feel good exercises."

It is such a treat to run into people who are not the functional equivalent of a zip lock bag full of testosterone. And, and, and with normal neurological capabilities.

Oh, and with regards to my post asking if guns have not become a fetish. Somewhere above someone posted a youtube showing four bikini clad women firing and explaining the features of four leading assault weapons.

I think I have the answer to my question.

Oh, and some other stuff of interest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6_JpPvWCAQ

Modern flame thrower.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkFU7o3IAaM

And then there is the A10. Fires 8000 rounds a minute of depleted uranium. In full firing the plane almost comes to a stop in the air.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laNhSU-9XB0

You guys can handle this with tech 9. No problem.


Dave Kos

Trad climber
Temecula
Jan 11, 2013 - 11:13pm PT
Haven't read this whole thread, but no gun debate is complete without BOGUS quotes from the Founding Fathers:

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
- Thomas Jefferson

http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/strongest-reason-people-to-retain-right-to-keep-and-bear-arms-quotation

Who cares if he didn't say it, send it to all yer NRA buds!

Hell, a real American would make it his email signature!


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