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Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 12, 2013 - 04:02pm PT
We are in no way going to take guns away from Americans.

The next gun nut who says we are planning to take them away should get kicked in the nut sack.

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 12, 2013 - 04:05pm PT
In as much as i have NO RIGHT to tell another to use or not to use MJ, you have NO RIGHT to tell me what weapons i may own. AND that is a contitutional law "shall not be infringed upon"...

No, WesChrist does not personally have the right to tell YOU what weapons to own.

BUT, the Federal government and the State government DO have that right.

For example, citizens can NOT own certain chemical weapons, nukes, military grenades, SCUDS, and all kinds of other "weapons" on lists not approved for civilian usage.

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 12, 2013 - 04:15pm PT
they... they... they... they....

The hallmark of a racist.

Who the fuk cares what eastside or hedge or you or any other individual wants? At least they are not threatening a bloody civil war if they don't get their way... or flat out refusing to hear ANY other options. Do you know what it means to be part of a society?

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 12, 2013 - 04:19pm PT
Who's "threatening a bloody civil war", Wes?

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 12, 2013 - 04:29pm PT
they... they... they... they... they...

I've had 2 speeding tickets in 25+ years. How is that relevant to anything?

Civil War:

Senate Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, D-Des Moines, remarked, “Anytime you talk about guns or gun control….it is the ultimate dog whistle issue for the base of the left and the right. It is hard to have a calm conversation when the issue of guns comes up. I am getting emails calling for civil war” from pro-gun activists, as well as strong voices critical of guns on the other side, he said.

I find the contrast amusing... calls for civil war from one side and "strong voices critical of guns" from the other.

They also said they would do everything they could to stop gun control and gun confiscation…. If the federal government wants to start a new Civil War, all they need to do is go ahead with gun confiscation.”

...and of course Alex Jones and James Yeager and all their fans.

As if they almost desire such a tragedy. They have even said so.

You are a despicable lying sack of sh#t for putting those words in my mouth.

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 12, 2013 - 04:43pm PT
You are a clueless fukhead. Only in a world where gun fetishes trump measures to ensure responsible gun ownership could THAT be taken to mean I desire civil war. I said they are NOT... NOT screaming about civil war... NOT Rong. For fuk sakes you idiot!

You are an ignorant fukhead. I used to think you were playing, that nobody could be THAT stupid, that there must be some redeeming quality in you. But I was wrong. You are a delusion idiot.

Meanwhile, the gun nut side...

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 12, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
Well, how did things go for the heavily armed anti-government guys at Ruby Ridge?

The gov first shut off all their utilities, then surrounded the compound, and waited.

Then the gov "easily" killed damn near everyone in the compound when they fired at them

Shut off all utilities, fire in some tear gas, and the armed insurrection is over real fast.

What makes some people believe, seriously, that a big reason they "have" to own shitloads of guns is to "defend" against the US Armed Forces?

The gov would not even screw around anymore, just have a drone drop a 500 pound bomb and clean up the mess later.

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 12, 2013 - 04:49pm PT
Pull your head out of





I never said YOU were calling for civil war. There you go, being an idiot again. There are those who line up on the same side of the debate as you do, with many of the same irrational bullshit talking points, who are calling for civil war.

I have never once heard any pot head EVER talk about civil war if they don't get their herb.

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 12, 2013 - 04:54pm PT
blah blah blah blah blah

You ignorant fukwad.

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 12, 2013 - 05:03pm PT
"Private citizens can, and should, just run away."

Perhaps THE most absurd thing I have EVER read on ST.

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Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 12, 2013 - 05:19pm PT
You just be a good little boy now, Dave Kos....and run're mother is calling....

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 12, 2013 - 05:23pm PT
The most absurd thing I have ever heard... citizens armed with AR15's or less, against the US Military.

hahahahaaaaaaaa is right!

(see how that suggests an impending civil war Rong, you fuking asshat)

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 12, 2013 - 05:30pm PT
Hey Dave, when a bad guy comes in to harm your family, try not to wet yourself, ok?
Wade Icey

Trad climber
Jan 12, 2013 - 05:32pm PT
In random hardly biased Summary:

Okay folks. This is your space to talk about all pro and anti gun issues.

I am not the moderator. I probably won't even show up here that often.

keep it civil, and on topic. :-)
is it even fair to do this without Fatty?
A device is a device is a device. Are you going to ban knowledge?
uh....FUK YOU...and the weenie Nancy Pelosi horse ya rode in on!
it is still all academic until real lead is coming back at you.
Gun laws are not the issue here.
one must ask what sort of manipulation is going on and why?
there will likely be another civil war
George Bush was only getting started with his agenda when the whole thing fell apart
So if one of the movie goer's started shooting at the bullet-proof vested nut job , would the bullets have had any effect
There is no rational reason that assault rifles should be legal in modern society.
see the looming specter of communism, I see fascism?
Using this latest mass-murder incident as a reason to debate gun-control is a red-herring. We are once again distracted and traumatized by the news into believing we are at risk. Your government will only capitalize on that fear. Look at what you allowed to happen in the time following 911........
first off, the "Red Dawn" scenario is total bull$hit; 50 million hicks with Glocks and AR-15s are NOT going to organize to stop massive aerial bombardments from communist China; and most Americans are way too obese and lazy to fight a sustained ground battle anyway
the "study" was pure BS man..
eing hit by multiple rounds even with a vest on is gonna f*ck you up, period.
If you ever experience a REAL firefight (not talking paintball here) your opinion concerning assault weapons in the hands of the general public might undrego a metamorphosis.
NRA is mostly responsible for the body count. Most radical and dangerous organization in the U.S.
"A well regulated militia"
Stats? I don't have stats i just hear about them all the time,
and thousands of people a year die in slip and fall accidents...
You are obviously not a chain saw user.
Guns are an important part of our culture.....they are the only way male caucasians can deal with small penis syndrome.
Some deal with SPS by buying a convertible or a monster truck.
I could go on and on
Well if your white and have a gun, you MUST have a teensie pecker according the some of the sage wisdoms here.
Does that stand as a qualifier? certainly not.
Let people have the guns they want, but charge $5000 per Bullet.
How can anyone not love guns?
"explosives" can be made from commonly purchased store items. MANY of them..
Been shot at, by people who knew what they were doing.
We have a constitutional right to these types of massacres.
LOCKS were made to keep HONEST people HONEST
He NEVER had seen that man before he drilled three into him. No charges were filed. again. So much for your ASSumptions..
This discussion is dominated by anectdotal subjectivity jumping to conclusions.
got anything to support your contention that many of these are 'gang related?"
Um, no. But I could probably find some if I wanted to.
God will judge him harshly, I'm sure. He will rot in hell.
the fact is he was a derainged HONKEY ass prick that should have been put down after about round four or five. No different than someone that would fly a load of people into a building
Dr Pepper shout out my nose when i saw that
Yet over a million babies are murdered every year, and people call that a choice.....not for the baby.
Guns, Babies, and Jesus. Not sure about the order.
Wedge issues. Keeps the fools distracted while gov't picks yer pocket.
A gun is just an external extension of ones consciousness.
I can't believe how you guys shred on each other! It makes my skin crawl.
I rest my case.
C'mon down to Tuolumne and we can get to know each other. Multiple pitches tend to bring out the truth in us.
Idiot amateurs think only of the target. They RARELY think about what is BEHIND the target.
Because the mental health sector doesn't contribute enough campaign dollars and the NRA
Two off-duty cops in Orange County got into a shooting match with each other on the freeway via a road rage incident...Oops...!
When seconds count, Police are only minutes away...If I saw someone selling machine guns in the back room of a bar, I'd have gone straight to the cops.
I'm sick of guns, gun whack jobs, and I'm definitely sick of this cult and screw ball organization we call the NRA.
I have picked up the dead body of a four year old kid after his 7 year old brother accidentally put one between his eyes.
It's child's play - so give it up with the big man gun stuff.
Who says I'm not a "drinker" as your analogy puts it?
we know and see time and time again gun nuts dont do sh#t when it really matter
BTW, Who you calling a pussy?
It seems a strict constitutional view would compel the conclusion that we only have the right to bear muzzle loaders?
ts about the mockery the lega system has made of our abiltites to function as a society. ITs about the NEVER ending defense that will now ensue over this jackwagon
it's about gun-nut whackery, that's what it's about.
dont care if you agree or not. Ive been able if i chose, to purchase fully auto weapons in a back room of a bar.
This thread has finally demonstrated something.
Only pussy's carry a piece...I pack a bow staff and nunchuks..Nobody has ever f*#ked with me...!
It's the unsafe hands that are the problem.
Anybody who only has 6000 rds is not ready for the next election.
It is quite possible to be stupid and to like guns. In fact it quite possibly likely.
It is quite possible to be stupid and to make anti-gun posts. In fact it quite possibly likely.
Grown men that are completely insane!!!!
When I say 'guns' i mean guns.
I have a Concealed Carry License.
Whatever, go attack someones religion or something. It's what you do best.
This circlejerk has run it's course.
Is there supposed to be some kind of epiphany?
You people who are pro-gun-violence, have you ever not shot anyone?
Your sources go a long way to explain why you are such a liberal cool-aid drinker.
Trigger locks aren't as safe as advertised:
So as you rant rave and spew think long a hard about what you would do if this tragedy hit your family..
Hey are you guys done strokin' your barrels and shootin' your loads yet?
Yeah, but that dude's got an awesome porno mustache.
No reason for an ar-15 for home defense.
Are you the guy who walks around the house with a holstered gun sippin coffee on the porch at 6am waiting for an intruder?
Perception plays a critical role and smart traders know how to profit from it.
Ammo out of stock....I love it!!! The white boys with chimp brains (sorry chimps) are panicking.
Clinging to god and guns.
That's actually a rad idea. My gym needs those for the smelly hippie kind.
Farmers been shooting rock salt at kids forever.
I got no problem with anyone possessing anything.
Can't speak to all the bullshit in the news. One of the reasons that I have a Black rifle is that the tea party bunch worries me....
No desensitization here in America!
Enter the 'slippery slope' retort from the gun-nutz...
It's true. Us men are beasts, pure and simple. Testosterone poisoning is our underlying problem
That would explain the irrational behavior of the gun owners when they are threaten to lose them...
Lunatic Gun Nut Is Stripped Of Gun License By State
"I'm not going to let anyone take my guns. If it goes one inch further, I'm going to start killing people,"
Not man enough? Buy a gun
You're a paranoid lunatic.
Funny, I was thinking the same thing. Glad there is at least one adult around here.
NRA peddles fear and paranoia. The weak minded are easy targets.
"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
no gun debate is complete without BOGUS quotes from the Founding Fathers
There is an old principle of management. Never promote someone with enough ability to take your job from you.
Ok , Smart locks, you buy a gun ,you buy a smart lock that only the owner can accesss. no lock ,no gun.
Because some have a hobby of guns,, it is now a fetish??
They're talking out of both sides of their mouths,
That one goes in the Stupid Archives, right to the top of the list.
you have no idea of STATE SOVEREIGNTY i can only assume...
And i see you dont like analogies where they hit home.
gud gawd.. Hallmark of a looney LIB,, "YUR A RACIST"!
Shut off all utilities, fire in some tear gas, and the armed insurrection is over real fast.
I have never once heard any pot head EVER talk about civil war if they don't get their herb.
blah blah blah blah blah
You ignorant fukwad.
Let's hear about your military service, Mr. Hero, Mr. Patriot.
Keep them platitudes coming!
when a bad guy comes in to harm your family, try not to wet yourself, ok?

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 12, 2013 - 05:32pm PT
"Hey Dave, when a bad guy comes in to harm your family, try not to wet yourself, ok?"

Yeah, it'd make it more difficult to run away.

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 12, 2013 - 05:35pm PT
My military service? Zero.

What difference does it make?

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 12, 2013 - 05:37pm PT
Somehow you think it takes military service to have the balls to protect one's self or family?

Oh please......get a dose of reality and grow a pair.

And when your family is being attacked, you gonna hang around and wait for a LEO...or perhaps your fellow military?

Good luck with that.

Trad climber
Jan 12, 2013 - 05:38pm PT
Dave, the society (that gave them everything) will revolt against a government that is not doing what it did when it served that society that gave them everything. The people are the society. The government is supposed to serve the people(that society), to guarantee liberty and freedoms.
Nothing more pathetic than white dudes who have lived a life of privilege talking heroic about overthrowing the society that gave them everything.

You are fighting hard to support the creation of a a government that functions like a monarchy - your forefathers fought to break away from that and create a land of the free - remember, you had a war about that? You can laugh about keeping a well-armed militia all you want, what you are really saying is that you support the idea of government above and beyond anything that government may turn into. For you, there is no end to what they can become and do to their own people before you would then realize that it is with your fellow countrymen that you should be standing, and not with the government of the day. That will ensure the government serves the people instead of padding their pockets while putting your children and their children in perpetual debt, financially enslaving them. (you will argue that if you have no understanding of economics)

When you love the 'idea' of government as much as you do, you will give up the right to protect your own family, to be able to provide your own food for them, to own your own useful land and provide the basics in Maslow's hierarchy of needs. I guess that is ok, but it isn't appropriate for you to force this upon others and mock them for it. It shows lack of respect for your fellow countrymen (which means the government would love you in a marshal law situation - brown shirts here we come!)

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 12, 2013 - 05:45pm PT
You do that, Dave....hit 'em with your purse.

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 12, 2013 - 05:45pm PT
Mr Kos writes:

"Those who are so sure that they can overthrow a "tyranical" government with their private arsenals always seem to have no clue about military weapons, tactics, or history."

Who here's talking about overthrowing the governbment? That's crazy.
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