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Jemarr

Social climber
Chico
Jul 15, 2013 - 01:59pm PT
The racists here that support Trayvon for attacking a guy doing neighborhood watch is illuminating. But what is at the heart of this racism? Are they just reacting to orders from their media masters?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jul 15, 2013 - 02:00pm PT
He did EXACTLY that Philo and Dirt. And that is the FIRST time ive ever heard a setting president attempt to sway opinion like that. On a case that had yet to go to trial - pre jury selection so that ALL in america heard it. THAT STINKS to high heaven of POLITICAL angle.






and this:


In 513 Days Between Trayvon Shooting and Zimmerman Verdict, 11,106 Blacks Murdered by OTHER BLACKS


In 513 Days Between Trayvon Shooting and Zimmerman Verdict, 11,106 Blacks Murdered by OTHER BLACKS
Soopermexican Hidetora
Soopermexican Hidetora
On July 15, 2013
http://www.soopermexican.com/
I wrote this back on my blog Soopermexican in April of last year.

Check this out:

To be exact, the shameful truth is that 93% of African-American murders are committed by other African-Americans. That is breathtakingly awful when you consider how incensed the African-American community is about the Trayvon tragedy, no matter what you believe about Zimmermanís guilt.

Letís do the gruesome math, not out of morbidity, but because it manifests the incredible self-centered insanity of people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

8,000-9,000 African-Americans are murdered each year.

93% of them by other African-Americans.

Thatís 7,905 (from average)

Thatís 21.65 murdered each day by other African-Americans.

And these racebaiting culture-hustling microphone-pimps only get riled up when a ďWhite HispanicĒ kills an African-American? Itís absolutely shameful.

To update, in the 513 days between Trayvon dying, and the Zimmerman verdict, 11,106 African Americans have been murdered by other African-Americans.

I was so shocked, I had to double check my numbers.



Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 15, 2013 - 02:01pm PT
Dirt wrote: Ron that is not what he said. Are you capable of getting one fact right--just one--ever?


Isn't obvious to all that Ron is a hack a racist and wouldn't know a fact if it jumped out of the mouth of one of dead animals that he plays with all day.
Jemarr

Social climber
Chico
Jul 15, 2013 - 02:03pm PT
Everyone has things they don't like.

http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2013/05/strangers-in-strange-land-white-people.html


http://www.wafb.com/story/22240991/family-attacked-for-being-in-wrong-neighborhood


dirtbag

climber
Jul 15, 2013 - 02:04pm PT
No he di not Ron. Google the damn quoite and get it right or stfu.
johnboy

Trad climber
Can't get here from there
Jul 15, 2013 - 02:06pm PT
I just cringe when I see Ron interpreting numbers.
dirtbag

climber
Jul 15, 2013 - 02:06pm PT
Jennamar or whatever the fook your name is: why are you posting here? Did you run out of crosses to burn, you reactionary piece of racist filth?
Gerg

Trad climber
Calgary
Jul 15, 2013 - 02:08pm PT
All the hidding racists here are just sad that they may not have had the chance to flex their muscles back in the 50/60s and that now the tables have turned in America and they all those equal rights black people to stand up to with their little guns and all.
As much as I love California, Utah, I will happily take free health care, 6 months+ of snow and knowing every house in the 'hood is not loaded with guns either by gangs, racists or whatever demographic you love to label people.
Me and my young son have walked about a few non-white areas in America, never had a gun, never been afraid.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jul 15, 2013 - 02:09pm PT
It ain't white guilt when you are disgusted by the killing of an innocent 17 year old by an overzealous wannabe cop who assumed he was "up to no good or on drugs or something" based on NOTHING but his appearance. And you are a sick piece of sh#t if you think it is.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 15, 2013 - 02:09pm PT
Ron, turn off the rightwing radio.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jul 15, 2013 - 02:10pm PT
semantics AGAIN DIRT?? "If i had a son he would look just like trayvon"~~obama 2012


DONT TELL ME he wasnt trying to sway public opinion,, because it worked on you doink schmirnoffs like a CHARM!



and bobda,,, DEAD animals DONT talk,, and i can tell you from experience that dead humans dont talk either.


philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 15, 2013 - 02:11pm PT
So we will never know Trayvon's side. Convenient.



Hey all you bigots isn't there a White Trash parade somewhere that you are missing?
Or a TeaBag party.
dirtbag

climber
Jul 15, 2013 - 02:13pm PT
The jackalopes you assemble don't hear anything or speak, which is why they can tolerate your nonstop bs. And yes there is a huge difference between what you sai and what obama said.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jul 15, 2013 - 02:18pm PT
Jackalope?

BAAAAAAAAAHAhaha.. You see in your effort to do NOTHING but dig at me you reach for one of the more ridiculous items produced by taxidermists. But there are far better things to give examples you seek.. How about a PIZZLE cane?? Or a "Sack purse" ? Or a bleached PENIS BONE? Cmon now you can do better...
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 15, 2013 - 02:19pm PT
Jemarr wrote: The racists here that support Trayvon for attacking a guy doing neighborhood watch is illuminating. But what is at the heart of this racism? Are they just reacting to orders from their media masters?

GZ was out hunting, you can call it anything you want.
Gerg

Trad climber
Calgary
Jul 15, 2013 - 02:21pm PT
Jesusgeuess...
I am sure if a bunch of 60+ year old black folks surfed climbing websites they could tell much more intriguing stories than that.
I was beat up by 3 skinheads years ago for having long hair and being drunk, so what is your point?
Sucks when the tables turn on you or your race eh in a matter of a few decades.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jul 15, 2013 - 02:22pm PT
Guess you must be BLAMING THE ALL WOMAN JURY then bobda..What do you have against women?
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 15, 2013 - 02:29pm PT
Cry me a river you pansy assed racist scum bag.

How about coughing and puking up blood for weeks after four drunk redknecks tried to run you down then bailed out of their Ford F250 to gang beat you and bust four of your ribs. My mistake I must have been looking for trouble I was a long hair with a backpack hitchhiking after dark. If not for the big chain swinging truck driver who stopped to help I am sure I would be dead.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jul 15, 2013 - 02:29pm PT
Well let see.....

IF the President had a son then yes, he probably would "look" black, like Travon

instead, he has two black daughters

that is a simple observation by the President

explain how him saying that is trying to "influence" public opinion?

what Ron, in your undereducated, ignorant, and obviously racist as hell brain...

was the President trying to convince Americans that black people have black children?

isn't that fuking OBVIOUS to Americans?

god you are a pathetic horse's ass
michael feldman

Mountain climber
millburn, nj
Jul 15, 2013 - 02:32pm PT
I think too many people are mixing apples with oranges when analyzing or considering this verdict. First, there is surely racism in America and every other country in the world - so nobody should pretend their country is free of racism.

Second, it appears likely that Zimmerman's personal perceptions and prejudices upon seeing a black person (it is hard to say "kid" or "child" since I assume it would have been impossible to tell at the time of the incident) at the time and place he did, and wearing the outfit Martin was wearing, impacted what he did. That is, if he saw a little old lady, the outcome surely would have been different from the first moment. However, he was not charged with being a racist. He was charged with murder under specific Florida law.

Third, it does not appear that Zimmerman was acquitted based upon race, or the fact that Martin was black. Rather, it appears he was acquitted because: (1) the prosecution either did not have a strong case or failed to put on a strong case - remember, the standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt"; and (2) the law in Florida appears to allow this type of behavior.

Fourth, it seems that people who do not like the verdict do not actually understand the law or the evidence. It seems that they are actually not upset with the propriety of the verdict (despite what they think), but rather, they are upset that the law in Florida allows such a death to occur in the first place - I am convinced that Zimmerman would have been convicted of murder in most other states under the same circumstances. Perhaps without even realizing it, they are upset that Zimmerman had a gun in the first place since it is clear that if he did not have a gun, Martin would not be dead.

Fifth, it seems that people who think this verdict proves Zimmerman did something wrong also do not understand a "not guilty" verdict. The verdict does NOT mean Zimmerman did nothing wrong. It simply means that the prosecution, applying Florida law, was unable to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" that Zimmerman wrongfully murdered Martin (again, under Florida law - as this same incident under the law of most other states would have been likely to yield a different verdict). The verdict also does not absolve Zimmerman of moral culpability or possibly (not certainly since we have no clue) being a racist.

If people are upset with this case, they should push to change the laws. If people are upset with the judicial system, they should consider the fact that prosecutors are woefully underpaid compared to their adversaries in private practice. Judges typically make less money than 1st year associates in NYC right out of law school. The judiciary itself is often less than 50% staffed (in terms of judges and staff) and thus, is generally overwhelmed. If people are upset with our laws, they should look to the often inept and "corrupt" legislatures (and when I say corrupt, I am not referring to bribes or illegality, but rather, the warped sense of why politicians are there in the first place and the influence of lobbyists and big $$).

If this whole incident upsets you in either direction, vent your frustration at the true cause.
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