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ruppell

climber
Feb 20, 2013 - 01:32pm PT
splitter

Your right I don't know you. I'm sure if we met we'd get along. That vid wasn't meant as an attack on you for your actions. It was more food for thought. Plus I happen to really like that movie. As far as me having no idea how hot the inside of a burning structure is that's not true. You don't know me either so there is no way you could have known that I spent 7 years as a municipal firefighter. I've been in more than a few structure fires. I know EXACTLY how hot it was in there. Going in the way you did is commendable. I'd like to think that most people would have done the same as you but I honestly don't know if that's true. Putting yourself in harms way on purpose just isn't the way most people are wired. Every time I did my job it was with training and protective gear.

The Dept that I worked for had a policy of no entry without a hose line first. Firefighter safety is the first priority or at least it's supposed to be. So we roll up on a working structure fire. Three of us are on the engine. When we get there the father comes up and says his middle son is missing. Three people isn't enough to pull a line and do a primary search. The next truck is still four minutes out. My buddy and I made the decision to break protocol in less then a second. We ask the father where the kids room is and he says second floor.

So we enter the building and start the search. It's a two story house and the fire started on the first floor in the living room. The heat is intense and the fire is already working it's way up the stairs. I look at my buddy and signal that we need to get up there now. We both know on our way up that by the time we finish the search the stairs will be fully engulfed and are primary exit will be cut off. We head up.

We do start the search and don't find anything. It's these moments that you always second guess yourself. Maybe we missed him. We search again. Now the fire is fully rolling. We start to make are way down the hallway that is over the living room. The floor is saggy and feels like it could go at any minute. Pushing on as fast as we can we complete the secondary search and still nothing. We only have about five minutes of air left before our tanks are empty. All the second floor starts to flash over. We haul ass over to the opposite side of the second floor and close the door.

By this time the second engine has arrived and the rest of our guys are pulling a hose line into the house. They start suppression efforts from below which pushes a ton of heat up to us. Even with the door closed it's surreal. We break a window and radio for a ladder so we can get out of there before the whole floor goes up. A few minutes later the ladder is in place and we are headed down. Neither of us has any air left and both of us feel like we've failed. We don't say anything as we look at each other. We don't have to.

When we get back out front the dad comes up to us. He found his son. Junior had snuck out of the house to go see some friends. It's a strange feeling to wanna kill someone you where just trying to save. We both headed over for some water and to swap out our tanks. Just then our battalion chief comes up to us.

"You guys know you broke protocol, right?" He says.
We both nod.
"You guys know I'll have to write this up, right?" He says.
We both nod again.
"You guys know that there is no one I would have rather had on the first arriving engine, right?" and with that he pats us both on the back.

So, if this story has a moral, it's sometimes you have to do the wrong thing to do the right thing.
Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Feb 20, 2013 - 01:34pm PT
I fell about thirty feet straight to the ground and directly on my feet. My left leg absorbed the bulk of the impact and when I rolled up and looked down I saw a fist-sized hole in my shin, my tibia sticking out and bone chips all around. I laid back and thought, "This is gonna be a long one."

2 months later, back on the weights
2 months later, back on the weights
Credit: Largo
stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Feb 20, 2013 - 01:39pm PT
Sh#t, seeing chips of your own bone and blood everywhere has got to be disturbing. Now when Hank Williams, Jr. fell off that cliff drunk and his eye popped out and he was looking back at his own face from a weird angle, that must have been really disturbing.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
Feb 20, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
"This is gonna be a long one."


Nice punn Stonemaster
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Feb 20, 2013 - 01:51pm PT
Witnessing dubya get reelected is high on my list.

The Bobcat thread is pretty bad too - that trapper guy's ribcage should be made into a bobcat litter box.



Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 20, 2013 - 01:52pm PT
Dang Largo! Already back at it... Aneemule,, pure ANEEMULE...
splitter

Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane ~:~
Feb 21, 2013 - 12:36am PT
Rupple,

That vid wasn't meant as an attack on you for your actions. It was more food for thought. Plus I really like that movie.
Oh! Sorry about the misunderstanding.

Actually, I didn't even watch the vid, I just related to the title, "Fear the indiference of good men.", and the cover picture on it looks like the Pope or somebody giving a lecture on indiference/apathy/cowardly actions, etc, and I thought, "Woe, dood (rupple) is really sticking it to me."! I was already feeling guilty enough (in regards to not doing the right thing/following through). SO, i just skipped watching it. Still not sure what it's about, but I will watch it now (you piqued my curiosity).
Your right, I don't know you... You don't know me either...
Wow, awesome story, bro! I meant to add that I had a much greater appreciation for firefighters after that evening...that would be one tuff job to go to day after day. And, WAY bold decision, on the part of you and your buddy that day. Especially since you new "EXACTLY" what kind of a situation you were getting yourselves into. Glad to here it had a happy ending.
If this story has a moral, sometimes you have to do the wrong thing to do the right thing.
So true! Particularly when it's not selfserving and, in fact, may end up costing you dearly. "Greater love has no one than this..." comes to mind!

BTW, now we "know" each other a little better, eh? One of the better aspects/occasional outcomes of ST. Thanks for getting back to me & relating/sharing your remarkable story!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2013 - 09:52pm PT
That's brave to mention Michelle. It's commendable that you're doing that work! I'm sure it helps a lot of people more ways than are immediately apparent.

http://makemeasammich.org/2013/03/07/tw-10-things-rape-is-not/
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 23, 2013 - 11:05am PT
New adventures in stalkerdom, blocked phone number addition.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 23, 2013 - 02:56pm PT
On Tuesday i had to catheterize myself. You look at the catheter and then you look at your member and you go....oh my God!
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Mar 23, 2013 - 04:20pm PT
Jim,

I have a friend who has to have shunts or something installed into his kidney every couple of years. So you get used to it, I guess.

OK. I haven't read the whole thread, so I am going back to disturbing events.

I was in my office 20 miles away when this happened, but my wife was in the playground at our son's daycare when Tim McVeigh's bomb went off. They were outside and 9 blocks away. It blew out a lot of windows that were facing that direction, so it was good that they were outside.

So they come home and Sam, who was 3 or so, just said, I heard a really loud BOOM!

My wife said it was incredibly loud and sharp. The whole city thought it was surely a leak from a gas line or something. Ten minutes later I got a call from a friend and went home to see the carnage.

That was a bad one.

Tim McVeigh was not from Oklahoma. They built the bomb in Kansas. He was from Michigan and was what we would now call a tea party type. He was a gun nut who hated the federal government. Too bad he was executed. I think that they should have water boarded the bastard because it is physically impossible to grind and mix that ANFO in one day. He had help.

The bombing touched a lot of lives. My landlord was across the street taking a dump when it went off and was injured when the ceiling collapsed on him. A really close friend just missed an appt. with some people in the building, people she knew very well, and they were on the 2nd floor facing the bomb. All dead. The whole city was in tears while the AM radio f*#k wads were blaming the deaths of the children on the government.

I believe that to this day, there are body parts that don't match with anyone known. Perhaps it was a street person with no real contacts.

I had to go up there 2 days later, when they had moved the barricades back from the main downtown buildings 5 blocks to the south. The streets were covered with broken glass. In the gutters the glass was several inches deep. It blew out a lot of windows in the skyscraper windows which faced the bomb.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 25, 2013 - 07:50pm PT
How about the supremes gutting our civil rights?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/26/us/supreme-court-ruling.html?_r=0
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 25, 2013 - 08:23pm PT
On Tuesday i had to catheterize myself. You look at the catheter and then you look at your member and you go....oh my God!


Just pretend you are watching a nature show about snakes.

Self cath... yeesh!
Kenygl

Trad climber
Salt Lake City
Jun 26, 2013 - 11:31am PT
OK this was several years ago. I was driving from Park City to Salt Lake on I-80. Traffic was stalled at the base of the Parley's right about Mountain Dell due to some debris in the road. I'm sitting in my car at the back of the pack when I see a semi coming full bore down the hill in my rear view. I can see the driver doing everything in his power to slow down but to no avail. I look out the passenger window just as he plowed into the back of the semi sitting two lanes to my right. I remember the expression on his face, the panic, the futility and the sound. I'll never forget that day, the day I saw the last seconds on this dudes life just flash into nothingness.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 28, 2013 - 05:11pm PT
Anybody else have a cyber stalker? I've got one that reports to others everything I say online; here, Facebook, you name it! So of course I plant some good ones.

The dude sent me over 200 texts in a one hour period after midnight not long ago. I had my phone on vibrate. After a while it was Like counting sheep. I fell asleep before he finished sending. Doesn't he know stuff like that leaves a traceable record?
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jun 28, 2013 - 05:25pm PT
Why do you have a cyber stalker. . . ?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 28, 2013 - 05:28pm PT
i just have em on here.. Dang Jaybro!




ohw yeah the witness thing: working for NDOT more wrecks than i can remember.

SAR- watched a wing walker loose his head. it rolled right past our SAR trailer on the tarmac. Odd that was. Seen planes go down and one skydiver bounce.

Seen a few shootings both accidental and purposefully.

Saw a kidney stone grain come out my member that i SWORE was the size of the leaning tower.
among others.

goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Jun 28, 2013 - 05:39pm PT
Jaybro is it the same one as before, regarding you know who?
I say out the bastard and that should shut him up.
The internets never forgives or forgets.
kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Jun 28, 2013 - 06:01pm PT
I had one once (cyber stalker)...

You can have fun and reverse the table on them. Start posting in various nefarious forums and type their email address in the post. Sign up their email address for all sorts of sh!t.

If they've gone to stage 2 (phone/text) then their phone number can be written down on bathroom walls with the appropriate verbiage ;)
Gal

Trad climber
a semi lucid consciousness
Jun 28, 2013 - 06:12pm PT
Jaybro, that's a total drag...
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