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Oplopanax

Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
Sep 18, 2013 - 11:09am PT
I imagine future climbers of the 2100s will fondly grapple their way up the prosthetically molded replacement Pillar with their gecko suits on and feel very old school indeed
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 18, 2013 - 11:42am PT
Wayno- It was an Honour sir. Gear is gear. Once you know how it functions, it's all the same. Nice work by the way! Excellent off the couch climbing!

Hi Hamie! Nice to hear from ya! What's new?

I had lots of fun at the Psyche Ledge party. Many great conversations were had that night, the food was great and the set up was spot on! The many puzzled looks of the pad people walking around us was quite amusing.

Lots of great company and good times were had. Special thanks to Wayno for the amazing Carne Asada and Jim Brennan for bringing his "Q", plus running the whole darn show from beginning to end! Thanks also to Nina for her lovely pulled pork and Kyle for bringing his portable table!

Thanks also to everyone for attending and making it such a great time! What a great legacy to revive Perry! I think you have a hit!

I've been crazy busy lately so I haven't had a chance to get to my pics, but i have a couple from cragging on Saturday with Sandra Mari and Wayno.

Mari wanted to check out Cabin Boys Office, so we strolled up there

Mari on Ziggity Zags 10a

Wayno on belay.


Sandra got her redpoint on Laughing Crack, and then Nina joined us and we changed venues to High Cliff.

Nina on 20 Minute Workout 10b


She got the redpoint.

We did a couple more routes, and then joined Dave and Mari for a tasty beverage. Thanks for that guys! Thanks for the book Dave! It will be perfect reading material for Yosemite!

Nice work on the Grand Wayne! I can't wait to get back up there! Next spring. For sure.

That tree better not pry the Pillar off before i get to redpoint it! I'll be pissed!! ;)
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Sep 18, 2013 - 10:54pm PT
The valiant and lovely cedar over from the base of the Split Pillar should be left alone, and indeed cherished. It has succeeded, in a harsh environment, and is little threat to the Pillar - despite the beliefs of some. It's well to the side of the base of the Pillar, and when it eventually falls, it seems unlikely to cause problems. Even if it did, so what?

It may be only the latest of a succession of shrubs there, taking root, slowly growing, and eventually being destroyed by ice or rock fall, accumulation of snow and ice on the branches, or simply getting too big. That's the life of the Chief, which is bigger than any of us.

The Pillar itself, and the flake systems above it, are in any case temporary in geological and perhaps even human terms. The Pillar is detached, except at the top, with its base sitting in a sort of niche. It expands, as do most of the nearby connected flake cracks. Undoubtedly elastic release, earthquakes, frost heaving, and heat expansion/contraction are real threats to it. A small tree some metres to the side, in a separate crack, pales in comparison to these.

The Pillar will eventually fall - get over it! It's not the only classic hand crack in Squamish. Don't the already over-zealous logger/climbers have something better to do, or do they want to go out in a blaze of ignominy? BC Parks seems unlikely to condone any human-caused damage to that tree, and you could hardly blame them. Cheap vandalism.

In my view, it would be an act of egotistical vandalism to damage let alone remove that tree.
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Sep 18, 2013 - 11:25pm PT
While I think/hope most of those considering sawing that cedar are, in fact, joking......I hafta say I side with Anders on thissun.

Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 18, 2013 - 11:49pm PT
Squamish will be the scene of my comeback, if there is such a thing. There is something really cool about climbing there that I can't find the words to express. Actually I can, but I don't want to piss anyone off.;)

How did Luke's and Aislinn's wedding go? Any pics? Congratulations you two.
gf

climber
Sep 19, 2013 - 08:38am PT
BC Parks seems unlikely to condone any human-caused damage to that tree, and you could hardly blame them. Cheap vandalism.

Here endeth the lesson-MH as come down from the mount clutching the stone tablets with a new one chiselled in-Thou shalt not lunge for the branch when doing the 3 bolt clip into the right side!

I however am applying to bc parks to have this branch removed from park oversight -i figure since it does not actually touch the chief proper then this could be considered a recreational easement.
In the meantime, heed the words of MH lest ye be cast out and reported for human caused damage when grabbing or standing on the cedar branch.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 19, 2013 - 09:00am PT
BC Parks seems unlikely to condone any human-caused damage to that tree,


“Seems,” madam? Nay, it is. I know not “seems.”


- Larry Q Hamlet.


I know not this particular seems as I'm not sure why they would regard this tree any different than all the others that have recieved human - caused damage on their watch. Really I think they are more concerned about not blowing their annual toilet paper budget.

But in practical terms, i agree with Anders assessment. Whatever force is being applied by the roots of the tree pale by comparison to the colossal dead weight of the massive H bomb hanging by a thread. When that thing cuts loose, it will be interesting to see how far the chunks make it to the highway. Same goes for the Tantalus headwall.

Can anybody climb today? Last chance til next year!


harryhotdog

Social climber
north vancouver, B.C.
Sep 19, 2013 - 09:20am PT
Yes, I can climb today Bruce, meet me at the second pullout and we can do Running man on gear.
All kidding aside, why for art thou unable to climb from here on in?
Operation? Trip? Hand modelling contract?

As an arborist I can assure you Thuja plicata is a very resilient species and it's growth will slow to match the resources available. It will be there for a long time to come unless our climate changes, the pillar removes it or it contracts Didymascella thujina or Jimella brennani.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 19, 2013 - 09:28am PT
I don't know about doing it on gear but I'm tempted to try to meet you. The funny thing is if I left now we could get a half dozen pitches in by sun down!

Greg and Erin might get a bit pissed tho....

As for the sudden stop in play, how quickly you newly transplanted desert rats forget:


http://wxmaps.org/pix/prec2.html
Oplopanax

Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
Sep 19, 2013 - 10:41am PT
What you guys don't realize is that the Pillar alreadyfell off, during the February 2001 earthquake.

http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1545/1

American climbers were panicked.
Some guy from Ontario even called up Murray at Climb On to ask if the GW was still climbable.

Thanks to the amazing skills of the Squamish Climbers Society, the prosthetic replacement for the Pillar that was emplaced very soon afterwards has successfully fooled most climbers into thinking that nothing ever fell off.

The original pillar was taken to the quarry next to the Bluffs parking lot and sawn up into granite counter tops for yuppies.



Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Sep 19, 2013 - 11:20am PT
Then I'm all for the tree being left In place, prying away. Genuine Split Pillar granite counter tops would be RAD ! ! !
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 19, 2013 - 11:44am PT
the prosthetic replacement for the Pillar that was emplaced very soon afterwards has successfully fooled most climbers into thinking that nothing ever fell off.


Yes - a little known fact. You know all those Park use permits that went to hollywood in the nineties? Part of the deal was to take advantage of the left over props and misc. other detritus that usually goes to waste. It was a win / win. Left over plywood and 2x4's created the new Parks "office" and the Thomas SPFX Shop got rid of all the old styrofoam rocks cluttering up the warehouse. BC Parks does a little hazard mitigation while augmenting their meager revenue flow by slabbing up the pillar and a few other things.

You know that crevasse failure scene in K2? Well that particular piece of styrofoam got a new paint job and has been an integral part of Ten Years After for a while now. The Split Pillar is the tree from Yellow Dog.... with an extra layer of Bondo.

None of the new climbers notice because they all grew up in climbing gyms and of course all the old guys havn't been there in decades.....
gf

climber
Sep 19, 2013 - 12:43pm PT
and of course all the old guys havn't been there in decades.....
Hey speak for yourself bub -happy to report I have hit every decade for an ascent of the grand since the 70's-of course in the 80's and 90's in a good year it topped out at over 10+ hot laps -this decade -only 2 so far.....must make amends.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 19, 2013 - 12:46pm PT
Greg - I have always considered you a young guy
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Sep 19, 2013 - 01:42pm PT
^^^^^^GUFFAW^^^^^^^^
MH2

climber
Sep 19, 2013 - 05:54pm PT
Young guys don't divide their life into decades.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Sep 19, 2013 - 07:53pm PT
Young guys don't divide their life into decades.

Young guys can actually remember what happened in what decade.
gf

climber
Sep 19, 2013 - 08:04pm PT
Oh for god sakes, I've met 20 year olds that act older than 80+ dudes the only thing to fear is having to spend time with someone who's not curious.
Lurky Lurkington

Trad climber
eh?
Sep 19, 2013 - 09:33pm PT
tree nerd here, I believe the cedar in question is actually Chamaecyparis nootkatensis not Thuja plicata...
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 19, 2013 - 10:37pm PT
Young guys can actually remember what happened in what decade.

Really easy to do when only one or two really count.
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